Real Estate / Is there a Real Estate bubble in Krakow? [60]

As someone living in Ireland and seen what happened here, i find its hilarious that people in Poland think that their property is not in a gigantic bubble. Denial Denial Denial. For 200,000 zloty i would expect a very nice 3 BEDROOM apartment in a big city. The property prices and rent in Poland and Czech etc are criminal, and will explode with an ounce of justice. Like here in Ireland there will be plenty of paid clowns defending the criminality until the last minute.

Real Estate / Buying Property in Poland is out on Amazon [7]

mamdom lol,,,divide by 10 and get the real price.

Real Estate / How do you comment on "Poland real estate analysis" of the biggest property site [24]

Is There anywhere else(country) in Europe or the world were property is so expensive in relation to the wages that the natives earn. Are the Polish the most ripped off people this side of mars?? Buying a normal house in Poland would be like be buying a house here in Ireland for a million Euros.

USA, Canada / Moving back from Canada to Poland, yes or no? [39]

life is real hard in Poland bordering on impossible if you have rent to pay or mortgage..Life in Ireland and Britain is a lot easier..A pint is 4.90 in ireland. Unless you own a house in Poland(paid for) or have big self employing plans,think twice. Poland is a real mess at the moment..income-mortgage ratio etc

Real Estate / Has the Poland real estate bubble popped? [12]

The bubble will burst for sure,,if not it will be the first,,,but when ??is the question.

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

From my experience with Poland alot of people live like the Waltons..They are the leaders of Europe as far as squashing as many people as possible under the one roof. 3 generation in a sh1tty apartment..Not nice to see and its very common. The wages over there are been kept criminally low as part of their governments agenda to compete in the free market economy...young People just get so sick of living with the waltons that they just pay for mortgages that are absolutely out of their range...Pure desperation thats all...I know several people in this situation.the live a life of borderline poverty..And then people ranting about Poland booming ,what a load of b0l0x.

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

Poland is still Gods playground..Its no longer Germans or Russians that hijack it but their own neo liberals who will wear any jersey for a quick dollar..They have to many loony parties with no real policy except for dog eats dog...The price of housing there is a form of imperialism..

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

In 2004 it was about 40 cent per hour i think..It had to go up dramatically from this..but no growth of any significants in the last few years.. It wud need to go up a few hundred percent since 2004 to be anyway near normality..

Real Estate / Mortgage in Poland (rules, rates, types, websites)? [26]

By recovering, do you mean to a level where it benifits the people of Poland...or do you mean the bubble is going to remain and the people will continue to be punished by greed? Recover??

UK, Ireland / Time for the Poles from the UK to go home [437]

I lived in England in the early ninties. They told me there was too many blacks.and pakies and when they got drunk they told me there was too many Irish..The funny thing was these nazi type were sometimes Irish themselves and they were against imigrants who came recently lol.

Forget about logic these people are not interested in truth only hatred as it is the only way they can release pressure from their straw brains due to their limited capacity..

Too manny Poles....
Here in Ireland im hearing the same sh1t...I really fear the rise of the far right..

UK, Ireland / The Daily Mail - coverage of the Polish people [161]

the Daily Mail was a famous Paddy bashing rag for years and now the Irish buy it in their own country.So its obviously just a universal idiots paper.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Most people i know in Poland are on less than 1500 zloty a month...Something will have to give over there or the country will slide into mass chronic depression. I get depressed when i go there and see how they live.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

The small farms of the east will go belly up very very soon and when all the money Poles got from working abroads runs out...?? I reckon the next couple of years will be hard over there but i dont think they will sink like Titanic Ireland.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

I have a couple of polish mate who went home 3 years ago and they have found no work,,all the offers they got were bordering on slavery and comming back to Ireland or britain is no longer an option so i reckon they could be back to square one again.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Maybe but i have a farmer friend whose hops devalued this year by 75% and at least in the Lublin area this is the case all over. I dont know what they are going to do. The Farms are so small that even if they were to sell up it would be worthless.

UK, Ireland / A Brit moving to Warsaw with his Polish wife [12]

Maybe you should learn the language with your kids..osmosis...

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

The brewerys are now using chemicals instead of hops..and also china has robbed the strawberries market.. The EU is turning a blind eye and the POlish MEP's well the less said about them the better..

UK, Ireland / A Brit moving to Warsaw with his Polish wife [12]

I think once you have A Polish woman its hard to keep them away from the homeland for too long..Family is king over there. I dont live in Poland but i Have a Homesick Polish girlfriend so i may have to jump into the dark someday soon..

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Relavant to there trade?? Dishes?? The people i know worked in their trade in Ireland and other jobs.. They could not even find a dish washing job when they returned home.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

Anyway the wages over there are sh1te and the house prices are a joke..What will happen in the future will be decided as usual by market forces and its so called invisible hand. The Polish like us all will have to take a back seat and watch the chaos.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

I know a guy who built a small two story wooden house in POland 6 months ago.It cost him 75000 Euro.(4 rooms). Thats still a huge amount of money in a country with such small wages.

Work / Average monthly salary in Poland is around 1000 PLN (few hundred bucks). [387]

He could afford it because he saved up the money in England but my point is that this is still alot of money for a tiny wooden house in a country were the majority earn about 100 euro a week.Maybe he got a bad deal..

Real Estate / How are Poland's properties priced? [51]

The prices of Property in Poland have absolutely nothing to do with the economy of the country.Crap little apartments in areas where there is almost zero chance of gaining employment and even if you got a job it would pay less than half of what you would get on the dole in Ireland sitting on your arse. The property is bases on the wages of Poles living outside the country and naive investors. The average property if based on Polish wages would be the prices of 2003-04 or maybe 20% more. Just look at Mandom etc etc and their prices if you want to see a big joke. Supply and demand is an issue as well with their scumbag politicions holding back development so they can leech their people dry.I think the recession will have to really really hit Europe before the property in Poland reflect its reality.As long as there are Poles in Ireland and England etc working in Mcdonalds and other sh1tholes the property will remain through the roof. The investors are now running and it is time for the Poles to refuse paying for property as if it was built with bricks of gold...Gods playground...

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

I read in a polish language web page that the property prices are now termed as abstract since they are extremely out of reach for the vast majority of poles(old news i know). The prices are as much as 50 % below the asking prices and the bubble property holders are in denial and waiting for a miracle return of growth, so they are holding back in a big game of bluff. This link describes the bubble in the USA but its the same scam as Europe.

chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-15-bubbles

After watching this link The question is.. what happens when the bubble is not even based on the workers in the country but by Polish working for wages 5 or 6 times higher in the west. I hear that the prices are very slow to drop in the eastern part of Poland as this is where there is the highest emigration and in countrys like Czech Republic the prices are crashing because they didnt have such mass migration to England and Ireland etc. Crashing back to normality for the average worker in the country.

What will happen to Poland will it stay abstract for years to come????

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

What's the game with some guys on this forum are they delusional?? Spin Docs for the real estate developers?? victims of the straw man argument??mistaking blips for signs of long term recovery.. and who the fcuk is Mark??chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-15-bubbles

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

I asked a complex question straw man in relation to the Polish situation. My priorities are simple and honest unlike some lol.. I would like to purchase a property in Poland when the prices are sober again.. I will wait for the bluff to end. The prices are going down but only a mad man would buy now. I have queries as states above in previous text and I will take a jump into the dark but not in relation to buying property. There is a difference between risk and absolute stupidity. Life in Poland is hard enough never mind with the noose of super inflated mortgage around your neck for a couple of decades. Im here in Ireland with half a country in tears because they fell for the hype and spin of the vultures and their little lackies in parliament. Anyhow the way the EU is going at the moment maybe europe as a whole will be in the dark so there will be no need for me to make a jump it'll be dark already.By the way its a blip...blip blip in relation to Britain stop reading the expert opinion of tabloids lol.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

A mate of mine who is a journalist for a local newspaper in the lovely land of saints and scholars told me that sponsors for the paper would pull out if they printed the facts about the property bubble bursting. So they all went along with the scam and only printed lies to maintain the illusion. Now that it is burst and splattered all over the land they are all printing story's about how fcuked up everything is and how nobody saw it coming. The bubble in Poland is a lot worse than anything here but there are some who wouldn't notice a bubble even if their dumb ass was submerged in a bubble-bath.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

There are plenty of article about prices going down and they have been discussed already.
The same was here in Ireland at the start,independent journalist could talk about the drop in prices but the government lackies where like the guys in the Albert Camus novel denying that the plague had started. The ESRI and all the experts were constantly releasing statistic facts about the health of Irish property and economy just like they are now releasing sh1te about how the recession will end by the end of 2011 or beginning of 2012.Poland is a lot different as its property market is not based on the Polish economy.

My question as stated already was simply...
I hear that the prices are very slow to drop in the eastern part of Poland as this is where there is the highest emigration and in countrys like Czech Republic the prices are crashing because they didnt have such mass migration to England and Ireland etc. Crashing back to normality for the average worker in the country.

The internet especially in the english language is absolutely full of sights stating that the property in Poland is strong and still showing signs of growth and this is all backed by stats from reliable experts with government blessing.The chicago boys are strong into polish property.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

Maybe something will give soon,how long will the greed dogs hold onto their illusion?

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

It scares me that in this day and age people can still be manipulated by a few cliches(rent money is dead money etc etc). I understand that coercive advertisement is all about looking for some sucker to empty his pockets, but to agree to enter a life of super inflated mortgage slavery, so some some gangster banker-developer can change his Mercedes-Benz S-Class every year because he his sick of the color,this is scary. I know people who put more thought into getting a laptop than they did into the bubble house they bought. People did not even know that there was a bubble, they were more interested in Posh And Becks,Desperate Housewives and the bubbles on Scarlett Johansson (technologies of distraction). When someone like David Mcwilliams(prophets of Doom) was on TV or writing books about the inevitable coming crises they all(buyers) just transcended him in order to remain focused on their blind submission to the dominant cultural view perpetrated by the status quo and its business interests.