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TheOther   
6 Oct 2009
UK, Ireland / Sad life of a Polish migrant in the UK. Ch. 5 - Racism [259]

What you're referring to is part of the "back-stabbing" legend

I know. Just wanted to mention it. Where Hitler's irrational hatred for Jewish people came from can probably never be explained.
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

I was just curious about the conditions in Poland at that time that might have prompted so many people to leave

Before you start your research make sure you understand that Poland didn't exist during the time frame you've mentioned. You'll get a completely wrong impression and also rely on false data if you ignore this fact. To quickly answer your question: the main reason why so many people came over to the US at the time is economic. Most families were very poor and usually had five or more children. Diseases like tuberculosis and diphteria were widespread and child mortality was very high where the families came from.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

Looking through the US immigration records they were listed as either Austrian or German even though they were Polish

Of course, because they were Austrian-Hungarian, Russian or German citizens.

There two reason for emigration from Poland under Russian rule in 1905

Sorry to be picky here, but there was NO Poland in 1905. In genealogy you have to base your research on facts and not on wishful thinking... ;)
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

You are a Yank

No, I'm not.

where he talks about the ethnic group not citizenship

Ethnic group equaled citizenship. There were also no Basks (Basques) for example, just Spanish.

Am I missing something

Yes... ;)
Is was speaking from a strictly genealogical perspective.
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

Piorun

Gheez, Piorun ... we are talking about 1890 to 1905. They didn't care if you were an ethnic Pole, because the country of Poland didn't exist. You came from Russia, so you were a Russian. You came from the German Empire, so you were a German. You came from Austria-Hungary, so you were an Austrian-Hungarian. What's so difficult to understand? Citizenship equaled ethnicity, as I said before.

It might come as a shock...

Not really, as they told me I'm Caucasian although I'm not from that region... :)
TheOther   
16 Oct 2009
History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

the results are false

Not really, because you cannot prove whether those immigrants considered themselves Germans or Poles for example. You are questioning the definition of 'ethnicity' that the American authorities used, I don't. That's all.

Well, that may be but the census we are talking about (where the german heritage group is the biggest in the US) was recent. People where asked about their heritage

But this heritage is not recent. The knowledge of it is in part based on the documentation of the American immigration authorities.
TheOther   
20 Oct 2009
News / I suggest a new location on the map for Poland! [44]

This is a traditional Polish area of Detroit

Detroit? Just read in the news yesterday that the unemployment rate for 16 to 19 year olds is 57%, and the average is roughly 29%. "Great" place to be, really.
TheOther   
20 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

I was always wondering why there is no "Polonia - Germany" under the Poland Abroad section, given the fact that it is the second largest Polonia in the world. Some inconvenient truth?
TheOther   
20 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

Maybe it's because the forum is hosted in an English speaking country?

That's not an argument IMHO, as almost everybody in Germany speaks English as you know.
TheOther   
21 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

Nah, no German Poles on this forum?

They are sleeping already.

BTW: did you notice that the whois information has been deleted? It's not even in Off Topic... ;-)

Anything that could be considered personal information is likely to be deleted unless it is posted by the person themselves or they have given permission for it to be posted. Thanks.
TheOther   
21 Oct 2009
Polonia / What about the Poles living in Germany? [65]

Anything that could be considered personal information is likely to be deleted.

No problem, although WHOIS as well as TraceRoute information is publicly available and not considered personal.
TheOther   
21 Oct 2009
News / I suggest a new location on the map for Poland! [44]

the western borders finally moved to where they were long time ago

How boring. I suggest that we'll move the border to the west coast of the Kamchatka peninsula. Perfect spot - no nasty neighbours to the west or east, just water... ;)
TheOther   
21 Oct 2009
News / I suggest a new location on the map for Poland! [44]

Besides you call that part of territory German land even though it’s in Poland now and still give me this BS quoted above.

C'mon. You were the one who stated that "the western borders finally moved to where they were long time ago", implying that despite the outcome of WW2 Poland had a right to that territory anyway. How far back into the past are you willing to go to back up your claims that some land is Polish?
TheOther   
24 Oct 2009
History / Polish Atlantis (pre-war Warsaw, Poland in pictures). [38]

Sokrates

Nice photos, thanks for posting. Do you happen to have images of small towns and villages in the countryside from the pre-war era as well, or do you know a good source by any chance? I'm especially interested in the greater Poznan area.
TheOther   
24 Oct 2009
History / Weapons of WWII (Poland and other countries) [239]

I daresay killing German civilians during WW2 was justified given that they supported concentration camps and all that

They couldn't "support" concentration camps simply because most Germans weren't even aware of them. Not so sure about the "all that" though...
TheOther   
25 Oct 2009
History / Weapons of WWII (Poland and other countries) [239]

have been marched off to the edge of a mass grave and shot the moment the war was over

Well, the Russians, Poles and Czechs came pretty close in doing just that at the end and right after the war, didn't they?
TheOther   
29 Oct 2009
Genealogy / GITLER... is it Polish surname? [30]

Germans when did records of polish people changed the names cause they didnt how to write it down properly.

Sorry, but that's nonsense. Until 1874 there were no official rules on how to spell your surname or given name in Prussia. Pastors/ priests wrote names usually as they were spoken; thus the variations. Besides: you will find as many Polonized German names in the churchbooks as you'll come across Germanized Polish names.
TheOther   
5 Nov 2009
Genealogy / Trying to trace members of Wiatr family [11]

delyth

Have you seen this on the LDS web site?
familysearch.org

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Stanislaw Wiatr Compact Disc #102 Pin #781874 Pedigree
Sex: M

Parents
Father: Józef Wiatr Disc #102 Pin #781871
Mother: Józefa Jankowiak Disc #102 Pin #781872

Submitter
Jaroslaw JANKOWIAK
Smigiel, Poland
TheOther   
10 Nov 2009
History / Polish hatred towards Jews... [1290]

how come that my Polish neighbour girlie likes me very much

She doesn't know you're Jewish, of course. :)