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George8600   
27 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [263]

E1b1b1 and J2 are characteristic for Greece, in Poland they make up only 4.5% .

That's not true, J2 only constitutes 21% of Greece. And E1b1b1 comes from small fragments of the Ottoman Empire...

Too embarrased to mention that 27% African DNA, are we? lol :D

Again those genes originated in the Middle East, not Africa. And fyi I am Greek and have tested my genes with iGenea and don't have any African genes, maybe you should pull some money out of your pocket to do the same since you like bragging about your genetic "superiority" so much. Put the facts out on the table for us.

You guys are missing the point, it says HAVE THE MOST GENES IN A GROUP. The topic isn't that Poland is related to the Balkans, it's that these are the countries which have the most haplogroups in them (not that they're related).... in other words these countries are the most mixed genetically in Europe. The topic is about who has the most mixed genes, not relatedness.
George8600   
27 Sep 2010
Genealogy / Polish nationality? Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish. [231]

Which of the following (if any) determine being Polish:
-- blood (genetics, DNA)
-- place of birth and/or habitaiton
-- culture, religion and/or language
-- personal preference/declaration
-- all of the above
-- some of the above (which?)
-- none of the above
-- something else?

Blood?

I doubt it, as someone who is half Greek and half Polish I can tell you the nationalism is high in these countries but the blood isn't strong, nor is there an origin. Both were lands inhabited by tribes and overtime saw vast emigration and immigration, along with their borders disappearing and blending under countless empires. (Byzantium, Prussia, Russia, Austria, Roman, Ottoman- just to name a few). The blood is mixed, even though there are some genes which most Poles do hold in common which can be used as an identity. But don't expect to be homogeneous like Iceland, or Britain.

Place of birth?

While the place you are born DOES play a factor, with the culture you're taught into, the society you're brought up in, your first nurtured/learned language indeed would play a big implement into being brought up Polish, along with getting a Polish education. While it would be wrong to deny Polish-American their ethnicity, more and more of Polish Americans are speaking the language less and knowing the culture and history less as they blend into the corporatist monoculture of the American melting pot...which I think is sad...

Culture, religion, language?

Culture and language of course. Someone who speaks Polish clearly has a strong interest in the country and is most likely Polish since Polish isn't so much a universal language like French or English, and of course culture plays a big role. But again anyone can pick these things up and not have any heritage, but in terms of Poland (which isn't like Japan or France) most people who speak the language and celebrate the culture are Polish. After all 98% of Poland considers themselves ethnic Poles. As for religion, Catholicism exists everywhere and in terms of culture I think it belongs more to Italy...

Personal reference?

Well if someone truly doesn't want to be Polish to the point where they deny their own heritage, then why would you want them on the train? Better to have a foreigner who loves Poland. But yes if someone does have heritage I think that is enough to make the declaration that they are Polish, regardless is they don't speak the language or culture (in my opinion that would make them less Polish, but that is debatable). However, for a foreigner to just wake up and say it? No. Maybe if they were citizens, had family, lived there for a long time and spoke the language.

Something else?

Yes, they MUST drink wódka. ;-) jking....lol
George8600   
27 Sep 2010
Love / Polish girls hard in relationships [156]

ok fanx for all ur opinions on this subject , im new on this so look after me ppls lol

I have problems in life. The Mafia is after me because of 80 foot rubber hose I bought in Ukraine and didn't pay for, along with 40 tons of citric acid I got from there and didn't pay for but it dissolved when the warehouse got flooded from a stormy summer.

Don`t you see that MY problems compared to your problem of not receiving a reply to messages are really big?
George8600   
2 Oct 2010
Life / Vasectomy in Poland is illegal? Why? [123]

"The world might be a better place if certain individuals with certain traits got vasectomies."

Sir Francis Galton
George8600   
2 Oct 2010
Work / English teacher from Turkey, have any chance to work in Poland? [71]

I'm looking for some help. You don't need to be rude.

Ah why hello! Nice to meet a Turkish person on here. I read that there's only 64 Turkish citizens in Poland and only 86 Greek ones, lol. I say that because I am half Greek and half Polish. I really like Turkey though, I have Turkish people in my family and have been there many times. May I ask why you chose Poland? I mean I love Poland, but if I were you I would get a visa or EU citizenship so you could travel all over the EU and teach. I read in the Economist the other day how Switzerland is in dire need of people like you. But go wherever your heart desires ^_^
George8600   
3 Oct 2010
Polonia / What About The Poles In The Netherlands? [102]

some Dutch can't even speak or write Dutch properly

I think thats when a country's language begins working against itself. I once met a Swede who claimed that many of their people didn't engage in literature of higher form because it wasn't pleasant to read or write.
George8600   
3 Oct 2010
News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]

I don't know whether Palikot is an atheist or not, but in Greece there has been full secularism for as long as I can remember, and the church is not funded by the government. Yet, Greece is as religious as Poland and the church has very much money. I think more than the government now with the recession...lol.
George8600   
3 Oct 2010
News / Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland? [197]

lol I just read his online bio:

"A few days later on 24 April 2007, he presented a gun and a few dildos at a press conference called to discuss the case of some police officers from Lublin, accused of rape. He explained that the objects were in his opinion modern symbols of law and justice in Poland, as well as representing Lublin's police."

yea, that wouldn't gain my trust as this guy running on office...what is he 12?
George8600   
3 Oct 2010
Life / How Long Before Poland Has Its 'Dumbest Generation'? [84]

I suggest you look at some IQ studies done for nationalism, economic state, and race to see Poland's ranking. You might also want to look into my colleague Richard Lynn. I believe what you mentioned is an exaggeration by the media in finding a few dumb under-nurtured cases as they do in every country and writing and article for work's sake. If these people are truly as as dumb ass you speak, their inferior intelligence is most likely genetic, not nurtured.
George8600   
3 Oct 2010
Feedback / Polishforums on Facebook [60]

Keep joining guys! We're up to 50 people, please introduce yourselves on there as well if you wish ^_^
George8600   
4 Oct 2010
Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]

OK - here it is. Completely tongue in cheek, no offense meant.

As a half Greek I support Macedonia, and no one calls it Fyrom anymore. So I don't understand the joke, are you trying to say macedonia isn't macedonia?

Also what's Warzychaland?

Also what's Warzychaland?

lol!!!!!! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krzysztof_Warzycha

That guy? My dad has met him!

ps Vikings came from Sweden ;-)

Now they make IKEA furniture....
George8600   
5 Oct 2010
Travel / Starbucks in Wawel Castle, Krakow. Is this a joke or true? [42]

I've heard rumors that Krakow has their first Starbucks open in the Wawel Castle

As much as I love Starbucks, an end needs to be put into this corporate poison. Since when is some cheap outlet for making probably .000001% of Starbucks' annual profits worth more than one of the most significant places in medieval history? Capitalism and globalization are becoming poisons.
George8600   
5 Oct 2010
Life / Polish stereotypes of other nationalities!? [472]

HAHAHAHA CHECK THIS OUT: alphadesigner.com/project-mapping-stereotypes.html

This guy has too much time on his hands;

ps all his maps are there, they can be enlarged by links on the right.
George8600   
6 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

Yea as a Greek I love Turks too. But damn, I didn't know the Irish had it so bad for the Turks after reading these comments...
George8600   
6 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

anti-Turkishness is not the norm

Yea that's what people stereotype about Greeks from Ottoman times. It's idiotic, and it holds less validity than Jews hating Germans, or Poles hating Russians which is near nonexistent in modern day.
George8600   
6 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

No Greek likes the Turks.

What an idiotic generalization, that's probably true of 5% of Greeks...

Before them we were the no.1 in the world.

No one is "Number ONE". How long did you think Byzantium was going to last? All empire collapse, and eventually everyone would become a democracy...
George8600   
6 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

Southern is a fake Greek who has come on here to make me look bad. Please pay no attention to him, he still lives in the 1800's fighting the Ottomans and pumping his musket (no pun intended ;-)

Anyway, as far as your "slavic comfort" goes, try being half Polish like me. Since you're 100% macho Balkan Mediteraneanoid you might as well get along with your Turkish friends down there and learn to play ball. Now stop whining and play nice or there will be no soup for you tonight...
George8600   
7 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

For Turks, this statement is totally wrong.

I concur, I'm sick an tired of a few Greeks being related to the Middle east because some have a little Turkish blood in them. There are no Turks who are Arabs. Arabs are BROWN skinned indo-middle eastern peoples. Turks by majority might have dark hair, but most of Europe is dark haired and so statistics have shown:

collaboration

Most Turks have olive skin with brown eyes which is a typical Mediterranean feature. You find this all over Spain, southern France, Italy, the Balkans. Ass for the few Aryans there, they are descendants from northern people. Most blonde individuals with Aryan features found in the Mediterranean usually have Slavic genes or Germanic. I have even met turks and Greeks who have Scandinavian blood in them. Turkey isn't an Arab country, they are Mediterranean.

you do not mean thousands of Russian and Ukrainian ho res working in Turkey as goats.

There really aren't that many Ukrainians in turkey you know. Greece is nearing over 150,000 to 200,000 of them mainly because of the same religion they share. Most of them come on visas and stay longer since the government doesn't care to check for it.
George8600   
8 Oct 2010
News / Poland 2050? What will happen? [60]

I have always LOVED depopulation. The fewer the better and the more significant the individual. The culture and nationalism become stronger, more job opportunities, more resources for the people both direct like food and housing, and indirect like healthcare and education, and there are practically no poverty or unemployment rates. The populations of most western countries are dropping, but the uneducated third world sh*tholes are breeding more than ever. Then we have the media pounding us with overpopulation material thinking it's an overall human problem because they're too p*ssies to "discriminate" against races who are the true cause of this problem. So in short immigration is cool now, but I don't want to have to deal with all their cheap immigrants in the future because they chose to follow a cockroach philosophy to have me deal with the resulting problem.
George8600   
8 Oct 2010
News / Human Trafficking in and from Poland [80]

I have read this topic within the news for years now, and it finally struck home when I finished a book by a personally known author Jake Adelstein called Tokyo Vice. It's quite popular, you should pick up a copy. Anyway, seeing as how there are so few Eastern European immigrants in Japan...most of them are women... for human trafficking. However this thread isn't about Japan (which ranks among the top for human trafficking) but where one of the most detailed stories roots from in Adelsteins book. Being an American reporter in Japan for the police beat, many years of experience got Jake a job in the reporter vice which was to examine the underground of the Yakuza, Japan and Tokyo's underground. One massive aspect was human trafficking.

In these underground clubs (and can be compared to those in most other countries as well) the foreign (exotic women) are considered the most attractive, attracting the most business and profits. There are literally clubs in Tokyo which esteem purely on Russian women and in the mix include Ukrainian and Polish women, and if not in these clubs they are working the streets or in other clubs. Here is the jist and well put by a Polish girl Adelstein managed to interview:

"I was poor, and had no place to turn to, I saw an ad about being an international call girl that said I could make as much as $44,000 dollars a month with 50-70% of those profits going to my superiors while I got to keep a significant amount and annually this is tons of money. When I responded to the ad, I was sent extraordinary pictures of the club I would be working at, and over time they eventually situated me at a Tokyo club. I was sent to Germany where there was a central point for all european girls looking to go into such business where they would judge us upon our looks and give us certain clothing and so forth. From there I was approved and given paid tickets to travel to Japan to meet up with a wealthy man called Victor. When I arrived Victor wore expensive Jewelry, wore an expensive suit, and drove an expensive car and was from the Netherlands which calmed me down. When I got to the apartment there were other eastern european girls and some from South America and I was told to hand over my passport and personal belongings so they don't get stolen. When I went to the club it looked like a sleazehole in the middle of the tokyo underground and nothing like the photo I was shown in Warsaw. I was told that everyday I was expected to pay $75 for fees to pay off my loans which I was never told about. These included the plane ticket, the horrible apartment I was jammed into with other girls, and the cheap cloths they gave me. I was assigned to give guys massages which made $20, I could give blowjobs which got me an extra $50, and I could sleep with a customer to make $200. If I made less than $100 a day I would be punished. I and some other girls got angry and demanded to leave, some of us got beaten and I was told that we had no passport and were on some Visa, and the police don't care for those on Visa and would just deport me. I didn't speak the language or know the way around this complex city. Here's the catch, Victor said he knows where I live and I didn't want to get deported so that they wouldn't harm my mother and my daughter whom I cared so much about. I was stuck in the end. There was no Polish embassy, there was no Police who cared, and I couldn't go back home to my family to avoid their harm and I had no way to contact them, I tried to get into contact with the Polish police but they just called me a *****."

Weronika was 22, she was from Warsaw, and came to Japan in 2004, she left in 2008 when Victor was arrested. She left with permanent injuries such as a crooked eye and a deformed ear, two of her partner girls she had gone there with had been long killed by individuals that haven't yet been found, and all in Japan a modern first world country. There are millions of human trafficked girls and even men, and thousands of them are Eastern European with a significant number being Polish. So what is to be said of so little that is being done in terms of government and law, and so little social support these people gain to have their rights fully abolished and to be exploited as slaves, since they are slaves.

There is also much trafficking that goes on in Poland: gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Poland.htm
George8600   
8 Oct 2010
News / Human Trafficking in and from Poland [80]

Rock on here has stated that there are many Ukrainian trafficked girls in Turkey and the Balkans, clearly the lack of sovereign on the issue is troubling.
George8600   
11 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

What are these differences according to you Seanus ?

The differences that go by INDIVIDUALITY...do you seriously think people think because of their ethnicity? One would have to be a delusioned uneducated nationalist to be influenced so strongly...

Sneaky? People from any country can be sneaky and Poles are no exception. I've been on the receiving end of sneakiness here.

Indeed...

What is funny Greeks are defined as sneaky in Turkey.

Funny...here in America you guys are defined as the bird we eat. Just because words are spelled the same doesn't adhere the same meaning.

I think Poland have the potantial to be a power in Europe. But if this mentality goes on it is almost impossible.

What power? Poland is a modern democracy. All you Balkan fools still cry about you precious empires from the dark ages because you're too nationalistic too advance. It's always the Turks with the Ottoman Empire, the Greeks with Ancient Greece, the Macedonians with Ancient Macedonia, Bulgarians with Byzantium....SIGH...get real. The more you accept that your existence has nothing to do with those things the more you will accomplish as an individual and respect others. Nationalism is nice, but ultranationalism is a poison.

What do you understand by "to be a power", rock? In what way?

Like I said, these Balkaners have no sense of modern democracy...

It was quite nice, a bit of an acquired taste. Is raki that diverse? There are many types of vodka.

It's all Vodka. Just like many foods and drinks, the Turks and Balkaners ripped it off the Persians or Europeans, tweaked a few things and named it their own... (please don't take this seriously, I'm only mocking...)
George8600   
11 Oct 2010
Life / Stereotypes: Do Poles believe in fate? [18]

My surrounding believes in nihil like me.

That couldn't be more generalizing and stereotypical.

There's more to life than sex...sure it creates life, but does it honestly determine it? If you believe that along with quality then I hope you're not referring to fascist ideals of eugenics, genetic valuing and so forth. It was Hitlers view that the quality of life depended on who had sex and the quality of those doing it would be the greater outcome...
George8600   
12 Oct 2010
History / What do Poles think about Turks? [761]

Yes American Imperialism, we all know about it and it's why I'm a liberal and not a conservative. These people rot many things and prevent a pure democracy. But like Plato said, democracy existing in pure form would be a form of Utopia and by human nature that is very hard to exist. Also I am not naive, you are rather that for thinking all Americans are the same. Have you not seen the tea party movements and the fights in congress? Also, I might live in America but there are tons of things here I don't agree with.

Also why would you respect that? Anyone who thinks the world should be ruled in unipolar power under their own country is a fool. Very much like the Nazi's. But you cannot deny that there are tons of nationalist problems in the Balkans (of course it's not as serious as in some places in mainland europe where people are killed) but still...