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Posts by Nathan  

Joined: 13 Feb 2009 / Male ♂
Last Post: 24 Aug 2014
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From: Lviv, Ukraine/Toronto, Canada
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Nathan   
25 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Yes! I consider all attempts to use 'reason', 'logic', linear rationality, and common sense as positive contributing (moral) standards which help uplift the human condition.

Agreed. But in matters of heart everything is not clear-cut by rationale.

So you've heard the rumors about my huge frontal cortex eh?

Is it between your legs? ;)

Oh, I've found "Her" many times; actually, too many times.

That's the problem: your infamous cortex is hyper-excited. I see quite well, ZIMMY. One is not p*ssed at women forever unless one's b*utt suffered a few strokes. Mine did and I sense it here ;)
Nathan   
25 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Oh, sorry - I forgot about Wiśniowiecki in XVII century

Torq, it is not about Wyshneweckij or anyone in particular. It is the policy of your country through the centuries in this region. Pick up a year, look at the region's history and you will see what I am talking about. The oppressive policies continued till the operation "Wisla" in 1947. Until everyone was finally deported, massacred, destroyed, f*cked both in your the highest cultural center of the Universe and my stupid region with not-intelligent people.

Without him and his fellow countrymen there would be no civilisation in Ukraine.

We still in need of Polish brains, just not sure where: in books or on the walls.
Nathan   
25 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

until Ukrainians acknowledge that, there will be no real reconcilliation between our countries.

I am not trying to reach any reconciliation.

Also, you can't put an equal sign

Poles are always saints, especially when they start to cry and mumble ;)

Was that supposed to sound scary, Nat? Because it only sounded sad.

No, it is something that some dumbheads in centuries can't understand. Among those it seems are you and Socki.

how weak compared to Poland Ukraine is

Poland is always the strongest. Who ever argued?

bird flu

Maybe, a swine flu.
Nathan   
25 May 2011
Love / I need advice: divorce and my rights as a father in Poland [165]

Feelings include 'anger' and 'hate' among other emotional vices.

Hate and anger are not more vices than love or happiness.

Feelings are closer to instinct which dominates the animal world and seemingly half of the human species.

You seem to go with reason in these matters and as far as I can see you are very unhappy and disappointed. Someday you will find Her. Just don't use too much of your frontal cortex :)
Nathan   
25 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

I'm sorry? Poland in 1945 has almost 300.000 standing troops.

Ukraine too, but what did they stand for? Sucking to the commies?!

UPA - ukrainian insurgent army responsible

BS. But dream on.

Nope, they were killed by ukrainians, remember when i posted pictures and figures?

I remember you posting a picture of a Gypsy woman who killed her kids.
Anyhow, the Ukrainians are a patient nation which respects others. But when you push us too far as Poland did in 1920-30s we start a murderous rampage. So, please, don't push our buttons, moreover, on our land.
Nathan   
25 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

The Ukrainian army didn't terrorize Poles. Both Ukrainian and Polish armies were weakened and practically exterminated in 1945-1956 period by the commies.

What about almost 200.000 polish civilians you murdered?

What about them and who murdered them? There were mutual atrocities committed and we already talked about that. Hundred thousand Poles in Volyn were murdered by NKVD. Sure, many died from a Ukrainian hand due to the stupid policies your country lead from 1340 to 1947 which killed many of my compatriots. But it seems it is changing and it is nice :)
Nathan   
25 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Talking about Ukrainian 'barbarians' who plundered towns and murdered civilians.

At least we did it at home and against Jewish commies, not like invading barbarians from Poland who besides organizing post-WWII pogroms of Jews managed to come over and murder civilians in Ukraine, Lithuania and the Czech republic.
Nathan   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

you have interesting sources - btw there were almost no Lithuanians to rob in Wilno A.D 1920 (except for the military pesonnel)

There were no Poles in Vilnius A.D 1920 except Polish invading barbarians. The rest were citizens of the Austro-Hungarian empire. I see we are on the same page.

As Poland did not recognize Bolshevik government until November 1920, your claims that Lithuania entered Lithuanian territory on August 27th is wrong.

Did you recognize the government you aimed to install forcefully in Lithuania in 1919 by overthrowing their legitimite government?

It wasn't their land, either

Was it yours?

We wouldn't had Lithuania agreed on plebiscite.

Poles organized "plebiscite" in August 1919:

The Polish coup d'état attempt in Lithuania refers to a failed attempt by Józef Piłsudski to overthrow the existing government of Lithuania, led by Prime Minister Mykolas Sleževièius, and install a more pro-Polish cabinet that would agree to a union with Poland.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1919_Polish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt_in _Lithuania

Scumbags, no comment.
Nathan   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

The city was Polish

Then why did you fight? According to your logic the fight is not necessary when the city is yours.

no such incidents occurred

I don't know about what happened in Vilnius, but in Lviv the Polish barbarians murdered civilians, looted the stores and stole whatever they could. The Lithuanians didn't want to risk it on their lands.
Nathan   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

The point is that Lithuania grabbed a city full of Poles by force and then shot/opressed/stole from them, that gave Poland every right to intervene via military means when diplomacy failed didnt it?

Here is the glorious Polish "army" or better "zbrodniarzy w mundurach" in action:

In Lviv (then Lwów or Lemberg) in 1918, after the Polish Army captured the city, seventy-two Jews were killed by a Polish mob that included Polish soldiers. The report states that in Lemberg Lviv "disreputable elements [from the Polish Army] plundered to the extent of many millions of crowns the dwellings and stores in the Jewish quarter, and did not hesitate to murder when they met with resistance."[11]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgenthau_Report

Immediately after capturing the city, in the end of November, elements of Polish forces as well as common criminalslooted the Jewish and Ukrainian quarters of the city, killing approximately 340 civilians.[8][9][10]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Ukrainian_War

which if you look at the maps of the lands they claimed was kind of megalomaniac

It is natural for intellectual dwarfs, gumishu.

If Vilnius was Lithuanian, they shouldn't have entered the battlefield, simple as that. As they did enter the battlefield, they should have expected we would fight for it.

Wow. Why did you fight for 3 weeks against the Nazis then in 1939? Why fight if it is yours? The Lithuanians fought because it was their capital and because they knew what the Polish army will do to their city after the capture: loot, destroy the stores, steal private property and kill civilians. Any reasonable person would defend their city against this type of barbarians.
Nathan   
23 May 2011
Food / Okocim double-hopped? [6]

Does it have an intensive hop flavour

Me likes hops sprinkled with beer :)=
Nathan   
23 May 2011
News / Visegrad Battle Group under the command of Poland [261]

I have no idea who G. Friedman is, but I agree on what he said in regards of Turkey. Any military cooperation within the Eastern Europe should definitely include Turkey. I support rock that the alliance should be a well-balanced alliance of the equal members, if any. It can't and shouldn't be devised against the West, but it should be more considerate to the problems of the region, which the West understandably doesn't give a damn about. Ukraine and Turkey have interests in improving their standing within the Black Sea basin and this is to be done by limiting the Russian presence. I bet Poland has its concerns in the Baltic. We might be of help to each other. Eventual expansion of the alliance should slowly move eastward (Georgia, Azerbajdzan, Armenia etc.) NATO is overexpanded and its interests are limited to the powerhouses' business. Local military or similar type of alliance might be of great value to the states of our region.
Nathan   
22 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

Marshall plan was for Germans help, yes, but a strong West German prooved to be necessary against the USSR and its satelites. That was the main goal.

The Marshall plan was offered to the USSR and its satellites too, but there was a refusal as you know. It shows at least initial intent which contained no confrontation. The plan had in mind not specifically the West Germany or the Good Old West only. The US had the money and the businesses flourishing after WWII. To sustain the growth you need partners. Rebuilding Europe and Japan and creating a nice market here and there was very important for the US. Of course, it wasn't all that sweet and having the tenticles in other countries was definitely in the agenda too.

why did they let off the reparations?

They should have devised reparations in a civilized way, letting the country first to rebuild, feed its people and then establish something to cover the damages. They did the other way around: drained the country when it was on the verge of collapse and then when it was too late started to soften up in front of an accelerating development of WWII. Look at the Weimar elections in 1928 Nazis had only 3% support. What usually happens is the politicians screw up the fighting countries, then they screw up the defeated one and then they screw the victors until everyone is destroyed and no one wants the war anymore. We are the most retarded animals of all.
Nathan   
20 May 2011
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

I also will be able to pretend

Nobody tries to pretend, of course, since you and I know about it. The issue is of developping new technologies today to not have to shift garbage around the Earth pointlessly, since as you said, it doesn't eliminate the problem. The EU stands at the top in this regard and I don't think you would argue. If we take the passive approach and drive Ladas polluting the environment like WWII tanks then what will happen to the world if the population hits 10 billion mark? It might result in vodka-pollution as well and I don't think Russia will appreciate it;)
Nathan   
19 May 2011
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Truely spoken from and inferior position with lots of envy.

That's what you got from my post? Envy to Russia? I do envy a bit the Western European countries' way of social organization. I admit. But Russia? Come on :) I don't feel superior or inferior to anyone, sascha.

Russia will always be superior to Ukraine and not only to them

It never was and never will be. Except, probably, in vodka-consumption.

Let Chinese people die due to respiratory diseases and cancer near coal power plants...

If 1.6 billion people see it as normal... But at least they are trying to invent something that will reduce the negative effects of the industrial plants' pollution by persuing the greener energy sources utilization. The denial of the attempt to create something better is what you are presenting. And I (and you too) know that it is not right.
Nathan   
17 May 2011
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

So, should I come to conclusion that german "greens" is not normal people? ;)

I haven't expected any other conclusion from you. Somehow they manage to live normally and think about the future since resources are not here forever. You think that it is Ok to live in garbage and don't invent anything new. Why? Even if it takes hundred years - it is worth it, because when there is no oil or gas anymore, how will you power your home, car, boat,..? I know you are trying to play a devil's advocate, but can't you do it better, with more solid arguments?
Nathan   
16 May 2011
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

Yap, and you as Ukranian are pisssing because of them in your pants. Nothing has changed. Do they that much scare you?

I am scared of stupidity. Because it has no logic or explanation. Because normal people don't waste time on inventing ways to destroy progress. They, on the other hand, have only one goal - to trample you. Backwardness leads to disasters. Homo sovetici is a menace for those countries which remember "kovbasa" (sausage) of 1970s and how cheap it might have been, but forget about persecutions, prisons, millions murdered in Siberia and at home, fear to be, to express who you are ethnically, sexually, intellectualy, you name it. Those people enjoyed doing nothing and get the same as others who spent studying or working. These people are mindless, brutal mess of degenerates who is afraid to open up their minds and see a bit more. They are satisfied in living with no progress, as long as there is "Kalinka-malinka", a rotten dried cod with a bottle of vodka. In addition, most of that mess, in my country is made of the Russians who do nothing, but dig under.
Nathan   
16 May 2011
News / Don't let Poland become like my country, France. [630]

A combination of words you won't find here...

I don't think one will find them anywhere, because even the Neanderthals (sorry, ancestors, no offense) tried to find better tools to improve their lives. Homo sovetici are the worst branch of humanity, it thrives in regression and moves backward, no matter how hard it is.
Nathan   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

I'm afraid what happens when Ukraine joins EU

We still fighting the homos sovetici here, so it will be a while even to be considered for the membership. But in regards of drinks, I think everything will be fine :)

Why would you like a gangster-state in EU?

Nathan   
16 May 2011
History / Russians 'tortured to death' in Polish camps? [58]

Looks like some people in Poland, 60 years after the Schuman Declaration, still stuck in the 19th century and aren't ready for modern Europe.

Palivec, I agree with most of what you said, but to be friendly with the Russians in case of Russia-bordering states is to learn to love being spit at and bent over after every whistle. I don't think you would agree to that. You might say: "Oh, but we are talking about 1920 and the POW" and other historical events. Just realize: IT DOESN'T MATTER. This slime covers 1/9th of the Earth and they still bugger every surrounding state, destroying the possibility for normal development with their red flags, raping soldiers, KGB priests and other crap. You don't understand (I am not condescending) what they are. Not a single step backward is allowed when dealing with them, even in the innocent thing like remembering the past. Because if you do, the next thing, they will accuse you of something else and eat you alive.
Nathan   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

in which Polish state or private capital begins to buy foreign assets on a large scale. This trend will fully develop in this decade,"

That's nice to hear. So, making judgement on the post I read there are much more positive elements than negative and the developping economy has a chance to succeed. That's great.

imported from EU dropped down immensely

Did people start drinking more? Or it was like a forbidden fruit, when produced in abundance, everyone stopped paying attention? ;)
Nathan   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

so including babies and the elderly, pays about €2.500 a year in taxes to the EU!!

This is ridiculous. It seems one of the ways for the EU to cut its budget is to reduce independency of the member states, making local governments redundant and thus non-expensive. Or the other way around, but it will weaken the Union both politically and economically.

What about the economies of the economically-weaker states? Are they simply taken over and reduced to the resourses-base while the markets are flooded with the produce of the few? Or it is somehow supported to help the initial adaptation to the higher western standards?I have no real idea, since I haven't been to the EU, besides Poland, not long after it became a member.
Nathan   
16 May 2011
News / Poland-EU: Positive and negative features? [45]

What do you see positive or negative in being a member of EU state (doesn't have to be necessarily Poland)? It does if you post this on the main forums
Nathan   
15 May 2011
News / EU tribunal overrules Polish name contest in Lithuania [150]

To the mods: I talked a bit about language ;)

Soviets captured Polish territory

Says who? Koala? And Poles captured Lithuanian territory.

Soviets lose the war, Poland naturally wants to regain all its territories prior to the war

Prior to the war it had no territory and was a minority in the Austrian empire: no lands whatsoever.

Lithuania, as an ally to the side that lost the war, should give back the territory.

Now you lost. And?

all the support and assistance in its power

The Britain gave Poland all the assistance it could. I personally would break the agreement just as Poland did with Lithuania (to "prevent the bloodshed" as you said).

Furthermore in said territories election was held and in 1922 Central Lithuania's parliament would vote for their state's incorporation into Poland

Just like it was held in Poland in 1946-47. Why Lithuania didn't want to recognize the lost territories as Polish?

Sounds as Polish to me as Żukowski would :)

You see. But there are some who whine that they don't like spelling in Lithuanian. It is a fuss about nothing, indeed.