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porzeczka   
5 Mar 2012
History / Poland did reasonably well in land terms out of the postwar settlement [270]

For Poland must be said that this annexion of territory was a kick in the teeth for the Western democracies like UK and France.

The British, along with the French, were the ones who allowed the destruction of Czechoslovakia. They played bigger role than the Poles, signed the Munich agreement and gave the Nazis free hand to carve up a quarter of Czechoslovakia's territory. You do assess them as 'good forces'?
porzeczka   
5 Feb 2012
History / Would you classify the Poland's Communist years as a "Soviet occupation" ? [221]

Except they're not. Jaroslaw Kaczynski is a fine example - a man who undoubtably benefited from having a father in a good position in the PZPR, a product of a turncoat traitor - and yet the man still wins 30% of the vote.

Jarosław Kaczyński wasn't in the PRL's apparatus of repression. Should we despise children for deeds of their parents?
Anyway, what is the basis of your claims? Did you live during communism in Poland?
porzeczka   
5 Feb 2012
History / Would you classify the Poland's Communist years as a "Soviet occupation" ? [221]

The general consensus was that it was OK to be a party member? Or co-operate?

Maybe according to former SB/ZOMO/party members. If you talk to people who were in the opposition, you will get diffrent answer. Majority of Polish adult population was not in the party.

Those who were in the apparatus of repression are deeply despised in Poland.
porzeczka   
2 Feb 2012
History / Would you classify the Poland's Communist years as a "Soviet occupation" ? [221]

The last Prime Minister of the Polish government-in-exile would disagree with you on that.

Edward Szczepanik?
guardian.co.uk/news/2005/dec/19/guardianobituaries.mainsection

Stanisław Mikołajczyk escaped Poland in 1947 (with the help of British embassy) because he feared for his life. He wrote a book titled 'The rape of Poland: pattern of Soviet aggression' in which he described among others sovietization of Poland and falsification of 'Polish' elections.

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Worth reading:
Leonid Gibianskii (Institute of Slavic Studies - Russian Academy of Sciences) and Norman M. Naimark (Stanford University):

ucis.pitt.edu/nceeer/2004_817-16_Gibianskii.pdf

The Soviet Union and the establishement of communist regimes in eastern Europe, 1944-1954.

Without Soviet involvement, there would not be 'People's Republic of Poland'.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_the_Sixteen
porzeczka   
10 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]

Individual opinions can be chosen selectively and manipulated to prove a point of view. Media sometimes (or too often) show only one side of the coin. Some talk about Lithuanian propaganda, others about Polish one. Who should we believe?

I mean, given that the vast majority of the 10,000+ Polish Vietnamese live in just two neighbourhoods in Warsaw, there would really only need to be two Vietnamese language schools in the country.

Vietnamese are not a "national minority" according to Polish law. I'm not aware of any ban on establishing private Vietnamese schools.

According to the Act, the following minorities are recognized as national minorities: Belarusians, Czechs, Lithuanians, Germans, Armenians, Russians, Slovaks, Ukrainians and Jews, and the following as ethnic minorities: the Karaim, the Lemko, the Roma and the Tartars.

For a community to be recognized as a national or ethnic minority, its members have to hold Polish citizenship and the community itself has to meet a total of six conditions. One of the criteria is the following: 'its ancestors have been living on the present territory of the Republic of Poland for at least one hundred years.'

If the law won't change Vietnamese should posses a status of 'national minority' in this century.

mswia.gov.pl/download.php?s=2&id=755
porzeczka   
10 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]

There was a project to create a state with Belarus, but politicians had disagreements, then came soviets and all ended.

And before 1918:

Belarusian national activists were as present in Vil'nia as their Lithuanian rivals. They too harkened back to the Grand Duchy, regarded themselves as its heirs, and claimed Vil'nia as their capital.4 Unlike Lithuanian activists, who were convinced that the 1569 union with Poland had destroyed Lithuanian independence, Belarusian activists favored a revived Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. This reflected, as we have seen, an important difference in historical interpretation. The Lithuanian critique of the Polish connection began in the 1840s, and was publicized in the 1880s; it appears that no Belarusian thinker even questioned the value of the old Commonwealth before 1910.5

Most of them even didn't know why they came there.

How do you know that?
porzeczka   
10 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]

The interesting thing is that Vilnius/Wilno/Вiльня was also claimed as part of an independent Belarus in 1918.
Belarusians could have argued that they were a majority/plurality in the area surrounding the city - according to the Russian census from 1897, they were 56,1% of population in Vilna Governorate.
porzeczka   
9 Jan 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Not all are fluent in lithuanian language. If they are fluent, why should they get easier exams?

Was there any research about the level of their fluency in Lithuanian? Fluency in given language shouldn't be seen as the ability to pass Matura exam from this language, which require additional knowledge (for example, of full spectrum of national literature) and skills, not only competence in writing and speaking in Polish/Lithuanian.

Thing is, they used to learn all subjects except lithuanian language in polish

From what I've read, the issue of "discrimination" lies in the fact that Lithuanian authorities are taking away from national minorities some educational rights the latter enjoyed for tens of years (also in free Lithuania), in a hurry, without consulting the communities and dialogue with them. You need a good reason/explanation for this.
porzeczka   
9 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]

No census is 100% reliable. However, these are the possible alternatives (regarding Polish-Lithuanian conflict over Vilnius/Wilno):

1. Russian census of 1897:
Vilnius/Wilno - Jews (40%), Poles (30,1%), Russians (20,9%), Belarusians (4,3%), Lithuanians (2,1%), Germans (1,4%), Tatars (0.5%), Ukrainians (0,3%), Other (0,4%)
Vilna Governorate (most of its territory seems to be in Belarus now; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lithuania-1867-1914-EN.svg) - Belarusians (56,1%), Lithuanians (17,6%), Jews (12,5%), Poles (8,2%), Russians (4,9%), Germans (0,2%), Tatars (0,1%), Ukrainians (0,1%), Other (0,1%).

2. German census of 1916:
Vilnius/Wilno - Poles (50,2%), Jews (43,5%), Lithuanians (2,6%), Russians (1,5%), Other (2,2%)
Occupied Lithuania - Poles (58%), Lithuanians (18,5%), Jews (14,7%), Belarusians (6,4%), Russians (1,2%), Other (1,2%).

3. Polish census of 1921:
Administrative district Area of Wilno - Poles (57,9%), Belarusians (25,7%), Jews (8,1%), Other (8,3%).

4. German-Lithuanian census of 1942:
Vilnius/Wilno - Poles (41,89%), Jews (27,78%), Lithuanians (24,37%), Russians (1,95%), Belarusians (2,55%), Germans (0,25%), Other (1,21%)
Wilna-Gebiet - Lithuanians (43,44%), Poles (42,20%), Belarusians (10,89%), Russians (3,05%), Other (0,42%).

5. Soviet census of 1959:
Vilnius/Wilno - Lithuanians (33,6%), Russians (29,4%), Poles (20%), Jews (7%), Belarusians (6,2%), Ukrainians (2,8%), Other (1%).

Ethnic history of Vilnius region.
/wiki/Ethnic_history_of_the_Vilnius_region
porzeczka   
8 Jan 2012
Genealogy / The Last name "Mack" [5]

Maybe they added the letter 'c'. The word 'Mack' sounds similar to 'Mak' in Polish.
It means poppy.

Nazwisko/last name
porzeczka   
8 Jan 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

That's their choice and loss. The point is: why do you want to reform the education of young people (limit the number of lessons taught in Polish in "Polish schools", add more subjects in Lithuanian) if there is no need for such changes - young Lithuanian Poles are fluent in Lithuanian language.
porzeczka   
8 Jan 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

in the times of the Soviet Union they had no need to learn Lithuanian language

It is possible that older generations of Lithuanian Poles don't know Lithuanian as well as younger generation which learns this language as compulsory subject at schools and has been exposed to it since childhood. Maybe language courses for older adults would be more appropriate instead of the proposed reform?

They make an impression that Poland want's to retake Vilnius, just like Józef Piłsudski did, because in some towns people even put Polish street name plates just below the Lithuanian ones.

We have double-naming in Poland too: Polish-Lithuanian plates, Polish-German, Polish-Kashubian. Polish-Lemko...

The act states that traditional names in minority languages of localities and physiographic objects, as well as street names can be applied as auxiliary names to fixed geographical names in Polish.

ksng.gugik.gov.pl/pliki/new_polish_legislation_regarding_national_ethnic_and_linguistic_minorities.pdf
porzeczka   
8 Jan 2012
History / Lithuanians hate Poles? [156]

Największy dystans do Polaków w ostatnim sondażu wykazali mieszkańcy Szawli i Kłajpedy, gdzie Polacy stanowią znikomy procent.

According to the poll, the most reserved towards Poles are inhabitants of Klaipėda and Šiauliai, where Poles constitute a negligible percent of population.

Ponad połowa Litwinów nie chce Polaków za sąsiadów.

Actually, delphiandomine has point. Are there many people in Poland who refuse to learn polish and yet they live in Poland?

Is there any research confirming that Polish minority in Lithuania don't know Lithuanian/refuse to learn Lithuanian? Poles in Lithuania aren't immigrants, but autochthonous citizens - I would expect them to be bilingual.

Now there is an official project accordingly to which 70% of subjects in higher classes of the schools of national minorities would have to be taught in Lithuanian' but it could hardly be considered as a convincing argument as Lithuanian is a compulsory subject at schools and all school-leavers of the national minorities speak Lithuanian very good anyway.'28

National Minorities and Diasporas in Lithuania
porzeczka   
4 Jan 2012
Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]

and there you have it. time to move on.

Just to finally close this case ;) - a few more sources confirming that the word "busia" exists in Polish dialects:

1. Mieczysław Szymczak, "Nazwy stopni pokrewieństwa i powinowactwa rodzinnego w historii i dialektach je̜zyka polskiego" ("Names of degrees of kinship and affinity in history of Polish language and dialects").

books.google.pl/books?id=dm7RAAAAMAAJ&q=%E2%80%9Dmianowicie+busia%E2%80%9D&dq=%E2%80%9Dmianowicie+busia%E2%80%9D&hl=pl&ei=42isTprXN8XO-QbmobTqAw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCwQ6AEwAA

Forma babcia dominuje w Małopolsce, na Mazowszu i w Wielkopolsce (w sumie 132 zapisy), forma babusia - w dialekcie kociewkim, tucholskim, krajniackim, chełmińskim i północnowielkopolskim (w sumie 26 zapisów). Ta ostatnia na wymienionym terenie stała się w wielu wypadkach formą neutralną, w związku z czym funkcję hipokorystyczną przejęła forma będąca jej pieszczotliwym skróceniem, mianowicie busia, zanotowana przez nas na wymienionym terenie w jedenastu miejscowościach.

Again, "busia" is a hypocoristic form.

2. Mieczysław Karaś, Jerzy Reichan, "Słownik gwar polskich: opracowany przez Zaklad dialektologii polskiej Instytutu języka polskiego PAN w Krakowie" ("Dictionary of Polish Dialects...")

books.google.pl/books?ei=OKOqTqznOqjj4QSR2_nrDg&ct=result&hl=pl&id=IHRXAAAAYAAJ&dq=busia++s%C5%82ownik&q=busia#search_anchor

Busia - matka ojca lub matki.

3. Kazimierz Nitsch, "Mały atlas gwar polskich" (Small atlas of Polish dialects)
books.google.pl/books?id=GuhKAAAAYAAJ&q=Maly+atlas+gwar+polskich:+opracowany+przez+Pracowni%C4%99+Dialektologiczn%C4%85+Zak%C5%82adu&dq=Maly+atlas+gwar+polskich:+opracowany+przez+Pracowni%C4%99+Dialektologiczn%C4%85+Zak%C5%82adu&hl=pl&sa=X&ei=-b IET8foFYWZhQfJvs2iAQ&ved=0CDEQ6AEwAA

na zachodnim Śląsku - babcia, w Wielkopolsce z Krajną - babusia, busia, babcia i babka, w Borach Tucholskich - babusia, busia i babka, na Kaszubach - babusia, babuśka, babcia, babka i sporadycznie babula, babulka.

4. Honorata Skoczylas-Stawska. Biuletyn Polskiego Towarzystwa językoznawczego, "Z badań nad słownictwem pogranicza językowego wielkopolsko-śląsko-małopolskiego w województwie kaliskim." ("Research on language vocabulary in the borderlands of Silesia, Greater Poland, Little Poland, in Kalisz voivodship").

books.google.pl/books?id=Ef8oAQAAIAAJ&q=Nazwy+babka,+babcia,+babciuchna+busia&dq=Nazwy+babka,+babcia,+babciuchna+busia&hl=pl&ei=yGmsTovdHoGE-waGg83uDw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA

Babcia, babciuchna, babusia, babuśka, busia, babunia...

5. An interesting finding (from 1879!) Antoni Małecki, "Gramatyka historyczno-porównawcza języka polskiego".
327. 3. Kategoryi trzeciej okazy:busia,babusia, babcia, Marysia . Władzia , ciocia itp
It is possible that this word was more common in the past.
books.google.pl/books?ei=erMET5GqIcSyhAfG9_zZCQ&hl=pl&id=8RQOAAAAIAAJ&dq=babcia+busia&q=+busia#search_anchor

These three shouldn't be overlooked:
6. "Słownik Gwary Mazurów Wieleńskich"
drawsko.freehost.pl/ok/30maja/Sandra/slownik.html

7. "Gwara babimojska".
babimojszczyzna.pl/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=63&Itemid=88

Link to Boletus' source - 8. Hanna Makurat, "Kociewskie babuś, buś na tle leksyki kociewskiej" ("Kocievian babuś, buś in the context of Kocievian lexis."), page 18.

"Babusia" (just like "Mamusia") IS a standard Polish word.
PWN dictionary: sjp.pl/babusia
porzeczka   
23 Jul 2011
USA, Canada / Polish-American mutilation of the Polish language [75]

I remember listening to music it was mostly rhyming of this pre war Warsaw artist. He was singing in the local dialect which I believe went extinct after the war with Warsaw's population dead or misplaced.

This might be about Lwów :) I think the most popular pre war song from there is "Tylko we Lwowie".

edit: I will try to search some information about this dialect from Warsaw.

sklep - cellar (immigrants friom wielkopolska)

Doesn't "sklep" mean "cellar" in Czech language?
porzeczka   
23 Jul 2011
History / Defying Germaniztion in 1901 Polish boy writes 'German girls are ugly' [128]

But in English, as the territory was part of Prussia and Poland's claims recognised by no-one - you simply cannot use the term "occupation".

If there was at least one country that didn't recognize the partitions of Poland and protested against them, would it mean that Poland indeed was under occupation?

Why? It wasn't occupied.
It might not be what Poles want to hear, but facts are facts.

What I meant was the use of the term "Polish occupation" in the following cases: "Polish occupation of", "lands under Polish occupation".

I don't call a vast amount of collaboration with them "defiant".

What is collaboration in such circumstances? Working in Prussian bakery to feed one's family?

Certainly, they rejected the annexation and considered it occupied - but that was in their mind, not in the world's mind.

For the record, the terms: "Prussian Poland", "Austrian Poland", "Russian Poland" were in use when Poland wasn't formally on the map of Europe, e.g. "Higher education in Russian, Austrian, and Prussian Poland (1896)", published by U.S. Government Printing Office; The encyclopædia of geography (1837) See more here.
porzeczka   
23 Jul 2011
Life / Polish and Czechs [190]

Czechs don't have any sizeable minority anymore, the poll is about people they don't know anyway. I mean... Jews?

So treat it is simply as an expression of sympathy and antipathy towards certain nations (10). The most popular in Poland (according to CBOS, 2011) are: Czechs, Slovaks, Spanish, Italians and Hungarians. Unfortunately, such polls usually are about people 'we don't know', often reflection of stereotypes and generalizations.

Do Czechs like us? I don't know - they certainly have reasons to dislike us, when you look at history, but I think that for most Czechs history is not as important as it is to Poles.

Polish-Czech past conflicts seem to be more important to outsiders than to Czechs and Poles. There were also good things in our common history. Why not concentrate on them?
porzeczka   
23 Jul 2011
USA, Canada / Polish-American mutilation of the Polish language [75]

Some people in Poland say "krawatka"

Indeed. It can be either a paper label on a neck of a bottle of beer, "[twenga.pl/dir-Hobby-i-Rozrywka,Koraliki,Krawatka-do-wisiorka] - zawieszka do wisiorka", or a diminutive of cravat.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krawatka

One thing that I know is that some people from that part of the world identified themselves to the American authorities as Polish - even whenthey were actually Ukrainian/etc. It's quite possible that they continued to identify as Polish, especially as Poland was "known" in the world at the time, whereas there wasn't much concept of Ukrainian self-identity during those times.

I assume by "during those times" you mean the period of partitions. They could have as well stated that they are Ruthenian/"Little Russian" or just Austrian or Russian.

There was a Polish dialect in Red Ruthenia, called [staff.amu.edu.pl/~hjp/teksty/kurz1.pdf] - dialect "południowokresowy" - Polish language influenced by Ruthenian. I wouldn't consider it a mutilation of Polish language.
porzeczka   
23 Jul 2011
Life / Polish and Czechs [190]

I think the Czechs dislike Poles

Not those who live in Czech Republic.

Czechs consider Slovaks the most popular minority, with 92 percent of them saying they have a positive attitude towards them. Other popular ethnic minorities are Poles (78 percent), Greeks (63 percent) and Jews (60 percent).

The poll was conducted in March 2011.
praguemonitor.com/2011/04/18/poll-roma-are-least-popular-minority-%C4%8Dr
porzeczka   
22 Jul 2011
Life / Babcia or Busha - any social class difference? [359]

Busia/busha is a bona fide word in colloquial Polish-American speech. There are even 'I love my Busia' T-shirts and suchlike gadgets.

There is a word Babusia in Polish langauge (Wielki słownik ortograficzny - PWN). Busia/Busha might, indeed, be a shortened form of it.
porzeczka   
22 Jul 2011
History / Defying Germaniztion in 1901 Polish boy writes 'German girls are ugly' [128]

@delphiandomine
As a 'specialist' on Polish history, you surely base your theories on something more than wikipedia. Some of your claims contradict what I have read (not in Davies' books). I asked nicely about your sources, but you haven't answered. Why don't you share with us the names of authors who opened your eyes? Maybe after reading their works more people will understand your attitude? ;)

Not German ruled, but rather events occurring within German territory which contained a significant amount of Poles.

You mean events occurring particularly in Polish ethnic territory.
porzeczka   
22 Jul 2011
History / Defying Germaniztion in 1901 Polish boy writes 'German girls are ugly' [128]

Right, I thought it was very disturbing. And already being able to compare German and Polish girls?

"Niemki kochać i żyć nie umieją" means: German women don't know how to love and live. It's about the feeling of love, not making love.

"Nasze dziewczyny są najpiękniejsze w całym świecie, kochać umią poczciwie sami wiecie." - Our girls are the most beautiful in the world, their love is honest/sincere (they love honestly/sincerely/faithfully). "Niemki nie potrafią się kochać" would mean German women don't know how to make love.
porzeczka   
22 Jul 2011
History / Defying Germaniztion in 1901 Polish boy writes 'German girls are ugly' [128]

Some basic information about Germanization in "Prussian Poland":

The 1872 legislation was aimed at diminishing the influence of the Polish Catholic hierarchy by eliminating clerical supervision over elementary schools. Additional law soon followed mandating that all teaching in Posen, West Prussia, Silesia, and East Prussia be conducted in German rather than in Polish, with exception of religious instruction.

Beginning in the 1890s, additional Germanizing measures, such as a new school policy aimed at eliminating religious instruction in Polish, were also implemented. In 1908, the Reichtag enacted laws to facilitate expropriation of Polish-owned properties and to restrict the use of Polish public assemblies.

The Germanization of the Volksschule was paralleled by the gradual Germanization of the entire class of higher civil servants. While there used to be numerous Poles among the higher civil servants, as well as in the officer corps, they have slowly all but disappeared. [ . . . ]

These fragments are from "A German Voice of Opposition to Germanization (1914)". Apparently, some Germans understood that the Germanization of Poles was futile.

Tell you what though - spend some time learning about the II RP educational system

I suggest you start with the issue of Polish and Ukrainian education in L'viv around the turn of the century. Might open your eyes a bit.

What publications would you recommend?

I've found several (Polish) sources online which make it clear that the parents were actively involved in this.

Post links or at least titles and authors.

Would that be like the way that Polonization was forced upon Jews, Ukrainians and others in the interbellum?

People who diminish the wrongs of Germanization, shouldn't speak against Polonization
porzeczka   
19 Jul 2011
Feedback / Why are there so many on here, who do not like Poland [150]

I think Admin summed it up ever so succinctly, 'Poland, the Good, the Bad, the Ugly'.

Negatives outweight positives. 'The good, the bad, the ugly, the beautiful' or just 'the good and the bad' like it was before, would look more neutral.
porzeczka   
24 May 2011
History / Poland's biggest historical blunder? [341]

In Lviv (then Lwów or Lemberg) in 1918, after the Polish Army captured the city, seventy-two Jews were killed by a Polish mob that included Polish soldiers

Strangely, it's hard to find wikipedia's information about massacres committed by the Ukrainian army in 1918-1921 (not because they didn't happen).

Ukrainian nationalist forces led by Petlura were responsible for 493 separate massacres.

Manus I. Midlarsky (2005), The killing trap: genocide in the seventeenth century, Cambridge University Press, page 47.

e.g.

1919; February 15-17: Proskurov (Podolsk province): Massacres, rapes, looting by armed units of the Ukrainian People's Republic. Estimated number of victims: around 1,500.

1919; March 22-26: Jitomir (Volhynia province): Massacres, rapes, looting by armed units of the Ukrainian People's Republic. Estimated number of victims: between 500 and 700.

...
massviolence.org/Crimes-and-mass-violence-of-the-Russian-civil-wars-1918?artpage=3

Talking about Ukrainian 'barbarians' who plundered towns and murdered civilians.
porzeczka   
8 Aug 2010
History / Destruction of Ukrainian churches in Poland in 1938 [273]

Do yous seriously think that no churches were built for hundred(s) of years, and none under Tsarist rule? Or did I understand you wrong? Around year 1920, there were three types of Orthodox churches in Poland:

- 'Ancient' Orthodox churches (as you call them),
- Orthodox Churches built by Tsar
- Orthodox churches that were former Uniate or Roman Catholic churches.

At the time of the first partition of Poland in 1772, there were some4.7 million Uniatesin the Polish-Lithuanian state andbarely 400000 Orthodox believers.

Polish encounters, Russian identity, David L. Ransel, 2005.

12 times more Uniates than Orthodox followers in Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, hence it could be some 10 -12 times more Uniate churches + Roman Catholic churches. During tsarist rule, the proportion of churches and believers was disturbed. Even in regions with Catholic majority, Catholics had several times less churches than Orthodox e.g. Tomaszów district: 56 284 Catholics, 42 921 Orthodox, 12 Catholic churches, 66 Orthodox churches. Not to mention that many of those Orthodox 'believers' were former Catholics who were forcefully converted to Orthodox faith.

But again you avoid my question of why these churches were left untouched and Russian Orthodox in the middle of Polish capital and Poles who were so eager to fight tsar and his policies went all the way to Volyn' and started destruction of Ukrainian churches there as a revindication? Hope this time you'll answer my question.

I wanted to show an example of russification (#158) and included two pictures of the Church in Warsaw
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katedra_Polowa_Wojska_Polskiego_w_Warszawie
One picture presenting the Catholic Church before Russification and the other one - the same church after Russification. Apparently you thought that the Church is still Orthodox temple to this day (you didn't notice that the second picture was old, actually more than century old).

Why do you show pictures ofUNBURNED RUSSIAN CHURCH IN THE MIDDLE OF FREAKING CAPITAL OF YOURS and give this as an example of your REVINDICATION on RUSSIAN policy

You still haven't explained the huge Russian Orthodox church you have in Warsaw

The church in question was transfered into Catholic Cathedral in 1919, and I already posted something about it.
Only two Orthodox churches were left untouched in Polish capital. Do you know how many other were destroyed or converted into Catholic churches? Were all 'Ukrainian' churches destroyed or given back to Catholic faithful? No! So your divagations make no sense.

by still existing Czech government, that very Voloshyn (a Ukrainian priest, by the way) tried to preserve independance of this land WHILE BEING SUPPORTED BY CZECH TROOPS WHICH KNEW ABOUT THE INDEPENDANCE BECAUSE IT WAS FREAKING DECLARED AND EVERYONE KNEW. But since Hitler refused its independance he and the CZECH army retreated unwilling to die against the overpowering force.

Everyone knew about the independence? And by independence you mean Nazi protectorate?

When, on March 14, 1939, Slovakia declared itself independent, Czechoslovakia in effect ceased to exist and Carpatho-Ukraine found itself in a political vacuum.Voloshyn responded by declaring late in the evening of March 14 Carpatho-Ukraine's independence and calling on the German government to accept it as a protectorate....
After his election by the diet as president of Carpatho-Ukraine, Voloshyn was faced with the following realities: Nazi Germany rejected his request that Carpatho-Ukraine become a protectorate; the Hungarian government delivered an ultimatum calling upon the Carpathian Sich to cease its military resistance;and the Czechoslovak Army evacuated the region. Voloshyn decided to dismiss the cabinet just chosen by the diet and, together with the leading activists of Carpatho-Ukraine, he left immediately for Romania and eventually Prague which by then was part of Germany's Third Reich.

If there are better sources than wikipedia than why not use them?

How can you say how popular or unpopular were the policy of the country if it existed only a few days or even hours?

That quote was about autonomous Subcarpathian Rus/Carpatho-Ukraine!!!! Here are fragments from the book:
rusyn.org/polcarpathoukraine.html
Carpatho-Ukraine under Voloshyn's government became a tool in the hands of OUN activists, and even more so it was used by Nazi Germany for its own purposes. In Carpatho-Ukraine itself an authoritarian regime was set up and characterized by:

(1) a single-party system;
(2) the adoption of a Ukrainian nationalist ideology as an official yet unconstitutional means of struggle against anyone with different political views, which permittedinternment without trial at a camp in *Dumen;

(3) the establishment of a paramilitary organization, the *Carpathian Sich, which implemented by force the generally unpopular decrees of the Voloshyn government;
(4) the abolition of an independent judiciary.


the attitude of the Ukrainians of that time is well shown in the statements of Mykhailo Hrushevskyj, an early Ukrainian nationalists leader, who claimed that: "the four centuries of Polish rule had left particularly destructive effects (...) economic and cultural backwardness in Galicia was the main "legacy of historical Poland, which assiduously skimmed everything that could be consideredthe cream of the nation, leaving it in a state of oppression and helplessness".[6]

And explanation of this:

The Cultural confrontationbetween the Ukrainians and the Poles cost the former dearly: it forced Ukrainian nobles to choose between their own stagnant, impoverished cultural heritage an the vibrant attractive Catholic/Polish culture. Not surprisingly, the vast majority opted for Catholicism and the Polonization that invariably followed. Consequently, the Ukrainian lost their noble elite.

O. Subtelny, A Ukraine, 2000.
porzeczka   
7 Aug 2010
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out of 3 100 Orthodox churches Catholics demanded restitution of 880 post-Catholic temples, including 240 Roman Catholic and 640 Unite Catholic.

Apparently some churches were returned to (Catholic) faithful, some were demolished. It didn't cross your mind that Orthodox Churches built by Tsarist authorities were the ones in most cases destroyed? It shouldn't be so hard to understand 'why', for someone who claims that Ukrainian atrocities stemmed from desire for revenge.

Since you are particularly interested in Warsaw...

W stolicy Polski pozostały tylko dwie cerkwie prawosławne. Inne zwrócono przedrozbiorowym właścicielom (dotyczyło to zarekwirowanych przez carat świątyń katolickich), przekazano innym wyznaniom lub zburzono.

Only three Orthodox Churches remained in the capital. The rest was returned to Catholics and believers of other faiths or demolished.

A great deal of this territory and its settlers subsequently became the western edge of Rus' principality at the start of the 9th century,

Not for long. The territory we talk about was part of Kingdom of Hungary since the beginning of 11th and later of Austria-Hungary.

in July 1918, Rusyn immigrants in the United States had convened and called for complete independence. Failing that, they would try to unite with Galicia and Bukovyna; and failing that, they would demand autonomy, though they did not specify under which state.

Under the unfavorable circumstances, having no army or other ways of influencing political decisions, Rusyns voted for the best available option - Czechoslovakia.

In the first place, Rusyns wanted independence.
Ukrainian Nationalists took advantage of the weakness of Czechoslovakia and with Nazi blessing politically took over Subcarpatian Rus. The name Carpatho-Ukraine was imposed by Voloshyn's goverment.

In Carpatho-Ukraine itself an authoritarian regime was set up and characterized by:
(1) a single-party system,
(2) the adoption of Ukrainian nationalists ideology as an official yet unconstitutional means of struggle against anyone with different political views, which permitted interment without trial at a Camp in Dumen,
(3) the establishment of a paramilitary organization 'Carpathian Sich', which implemented by force the generally unpopular decrees of the Voloshyn government,
(4) the abolishion of an independent judiciary.

Czechoslovaks didn't know everything about Voloshyn. Here is the reason of his 'strange' behavior:

When, on March 14, 1939, Slovakia declared itself independent, Czechoslovakia in effect ceased to exist and Carpatho-Ukraine found itself in a political vacuum.Voloshyn responded by declaring late in the evening of March 14 Carpatho-Ukraine's independence and calling on the German government to accept it as a protectorate.

After his election by the diet as president of Carpatho-Ukraine, Voloshyn was faced with the following realities:Nazi Germany rejected his request that Carpatho-Ukraine become a protectorate; the Hungarian government delivered an ultimatum calling upon the Carpathian Sich to cease its military resistance; and the Czechoslovak Army evacuated the region.

Encyclopedia of Rusyn history and culture, Paul R. Magocsi, 2002
porzeczka   
5 Aug 2010
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You still haven't explained the huge Russian Orthodox church you have in Warsaw while burning hundreds of Ukrainian churches in Western Ukraine if you indeed were revindicating.

Why do you make stuff up?
1890-1900:
1939:
2004:

Info: pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katedra_Polowa_Wojska_Polskiego_w_Warszawie
I will answer the rest tomorrow.