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ladykangaroo   
23 Feb 2012
Love / 'Seks po polsku' - the sex lives of Poles: [45]

'The lifetime average number of sexual partners for Poles is 4.28' That's it??

It seems a bit low, but not too low.
4-5 partners may be quite common having in mind that plenty of Polish people marry young, countryside is rather conservative (and gossips spread quickly) and people generally tend to be involved in long-term (>5 years) relationships.

The "average" however doesn't seem to be right. There are still people who are much more active - and as much as 100 may be too much but two-three dozens is quite likely, especially if someone spent a good few years "studying" in a big city.

Also, Warsaw from what I know is quite promiscuous which should increase the average for the rest of the country a bit :D
ladykangaroo   
22 Feb 2012
Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

It means "Muslim"

Not exactly.
It stems from "Maur" - and "Maur", although used to describe Muslims (especially those from northern Africa), originally meant just "black".

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Maurus

Murzyn like it's English equivalent 'moor' just sounds old-fashioned.

That's quite close, however I would say "Murzyn" is used more often :)
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

in Danzig the overwhelming majority of the people wanted nothing to do with Poland.

Lie. Simple as that: lie. Repeating this will not make it true :)

As for Kashubia - I highly recommed checking how far from the Old Town did the Freie Stadt Danzig go :D
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

Yes. For centuries, to be precise.

and

No.
(unless of course you want to follow old German rule that once you consider someone German on paper they are German - but even then you can hardly use the term "minority", not to even mention "tiny, tiny").

You know nothing about the region (Kashubia, FYI), people living there, their attitudes, mentality and history and yet you feel entitled to write some far fetched interpretations. I really don't feel obliged to answer any other of your questions here.
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
Love / 'Seks po polsku' - the sex lives of Poles: [45]

but trying moving to Britain or America where kids have babies at 13

I would like to think that Poland may be taking more Swedish approach than the British one.
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
Love / 'Seks po polsku' - the sex lives of Poles: [45]

They are usually very reserved.

Well... compared to the British boys flashing in Kraków pretty much everyone seems to be reserved and conservative :D
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

A nice explanation here:
historum.com/european-history/36353-why-hitler-invaded-poland-first-instead-western-powers-he-planned-originally-4.html#post892349
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

And Danzig was a German city anyway, the people there wanted nothing to do with Poland.

That's actually my (and my family) city and the above only further proves the point that you have no idea what you are writing about.
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

find a negotiated way to live together

Live together as in:
- we are taking over one of the main ports on your coast
and in exchange
- you will allow for a country to be split in two by exterritorial highway and rail track
- you will fight ZSRR commies with us?

Last time I checked after Beck's proposal issued in March 1939 there were no further negotiations. Unless of course Germany terminating in April the non-agression agreement from 1934 (and Fall Weiss) can be called "negotiations"... I'm sure in Walendy's mind it can.

You won't get much attention here.

He got enough from me to get one answer, but I think this may be it :D
ladykangaroo   
21 Feb 2012
History / Poland and Britain started WW2 [307]

Hitler was forced

Poor guy.
First the blood-thirsty Czechs and not even a year later Poles...
Of course he had to protect the Vaterland.
ladykangaroo   
20 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

things have improved

After the working conditions in Biedronka became common knowledge

:)
ladykangaroo   
20 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

1400 gross which then would be about 975 nett.

As for the recent ad for1,800-2,200 (which, again, is not even 1,600 taken home)... I wouldn't be too surprised. After the working conditions in Biedronka became common knowledge no one on their right mind would agree to work 12-hour shifts and unpaid overtimes for 975zł any longer.
ladykangaroo   
20 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

and working, as shown above, 143 hours per month

...which would be true if she had a proper contract, paid holidays and worked only 7h 45min daily.
Biedronka's cashiers would be probably delighted to work on similar basis.
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

Did you actually work in Bristol?

What that has to do with anything?

Any employer worth working for

I could go on and on the the quality of employers in Poland :D

Really?

Really.

Most students in Warsaw do not live in dorms

Tens of thousands do. And definitely the group that cannot afford private accommodation during the term can't afford higher prices durign the summer (also - the dorms are transformed into hostels during that time, usually about 5% of rooms remains for students' use and you have to have a good explanation for your application. Usually university work qualifies for accommodation. Working somewhere else usually doesn't).

Again, the above does not have much to do with my original claim:-
a couple earning (both) the Polish average salary are the lucky ones (and well above minimum wage of 1,500 gross or 1,111 nett).
Period :)
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

Putting something is better than putting nothing.

Not necessarily. Not with the sort of attitude shown by most of HR departments - or even bosses of small enterprises who think recruiting makes them half-gods, looking down on any applicant.

Besides:
Let's say she is from rural area. I've known plenty of students that had to go back to their own little villages (and "lazy villagers" parents) because of two reasons:

- one: it's harvest time. The best time to reciprocate the effort the parents put into paying for child's schooling in some crazy expensive big city

- second: the student dormitories close for summer. Finding a summer accommodation (and paying for it) in cities like Kraków or Warsaw may be quite a challenge. Definitely not something you can do with a part-time waitressing job or unpaid training provided by some well-known brand name (the possibility of using their name in your future CV is of course sufficient reward, isn't it?).

The problem with Polish salaries is that generally speaking there is no average salary for average work (and I don't mean the level of engagement here). No mid-levels, no proper training / start-up periods, when you earn money not-that-good (but sufficient to survive) and know that the situation will improve with time. No basic jobs that still allow you to pay the rent and bills without ambitions for much more. You either have to embrace the über-capitallistic mindset and maybe finally advance in the market food chain (unless of course your family has long been there in the right spot and it's all downhill form here) or steer away from the rat race and realise in time that it's not really an option if you want to survive. The average salary quoted before is not the "most common salary". There is no such thing as "average" in Poland and that's the biggest issue. You have two very different worlds and very different salary levels - it's either tens of thousands or 1,600. And it takes a lot of these "1,600" to make for one "ten thousand" in the "average salary". There is no work ethic as such, it got replaced by the money ethics when you can't be proud of your job unless it pays well. And there is only a handful of jobs that pay well - and even these can offer you the right money only because down the food chain there are people who are getting less and less. The mid-level managers' salaries can be 20k and more because the till lady gets 900. The editor gets 10k a month because the student journalist gets 120 for their two weeks work (but hey! he can use the magazine title in his resume!). The local craftsmen, the little kind vendors who knew all their clients, nurses proud of their work ethics, courteous bus drivers - they are gone. If not entirely - going extinct at an alarming rate. The middle class is gone.

It's either sh1tstorm or place almost pristinely sh1tless, the space for gradual sh1t changes is shrinking and not too many vacancies seem to be left there.
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

She had apparently worked for one month of those 24 months

One month in a "fashionable" place.
Could as well have spent 23 months waitressing in Bristol to get the money for college. Work illegally and / or in grey zone to earn any money at all. Nothing you can put in CV in Poland if you want to get good job.

That's however not the point here.

The point was:

getting them educated is by far the more sensible approach.

So there you have it: an educated person gets her CV binned as well. So much for the value of proper education.

Every excuse is good for putting the blame onto the employees: overeducated. Undereducated. Not willing to work overtimes (usually unpaid). Not willing to half-kill themselves for additional 500zł. Not willing to accept trash work contracts and no social insurance from employer. Not willing to accept 1,600zł salary and spend half of that (and 6 hours daily) on commuting. Not willing to do the job of three people for the salary of one.

Lazy bastards. It's all their fault that don't earn even earn the average (that won't even qualify you for a 35-year mortgage in most banks).
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

delphiandomine, you threw out the CV of a person with great degrees and yet you preach about the importance of education? :D
And if a kid, that was working and earning money since he was 17, shows up - you will throw the CV out, because he had no proper schooling?

Makes sense to me :]

If you want to work in a shop from 7am-3pm and not a minute more, you have to accept that you'll always earn nothing. It's just the way it is.

Yes, I totally agree, it should never be expected that 8 hours of daily hard work will bring you any decent income :]

<plonk>
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

In a country with free universal education

...and where two good degrees still can't get you a permanent contract from employer and decent salary.

So. You know one guy who is building a house. That really opened my eyes and made me change my mind about the plight of sooo many underpaid workers. It's their fault, obviously. They are not trying hard enough. All 5 million of them or so.

Children are frequently "encouraged" by the family to leave school and start working instead

Bullshit. Mainly because there are no jobs to send your kids to.
Also because of the social services that would rather take the kid away from the family than allow for child labour.
And also because the families get child benefits as long as the kid is in school.

BTW: do you know that Poland has one of the highest in Europe percentages of people with university degree (if not the highest)? And, paradoxically, most of these graduates end up on dole. I would be really careful putting (university) education in one line with good salary prospects.
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

Some villagers up near Szczecin burnt down a veg processing plant

That's interesting (seriously). Do you have any background on this story?
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

Instead of taking your kids out of school to work on some crappy "business" like what frequently happens in villages

I think you think of 19th century England. Or maybe 1930s in US.

The rest is just simplistic interpretation bearing all marks of the lovely attitute "you are poor and it's your fault" and being completely detached from reality.

I'm almost certain that if you opened up a factory in many of these villages

Ah, more presumptions based on nothing.

As for opening factories in the West... look at the map and communication links. Roads, rail tracks, airports etc.
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

A couple both earning average wage

...is not average at all. They are the lucky ones.

Have you ever heard the term "Generation 1200"?

It's also dragged down by many peasants in villages who live off small parcels of land

Yes. That small parcel is what lets them survive in a region where there is no work in 100km radius.
But of course it's them who are "lazy".
ladykangaroo   
19 Feb 2012
Work / Minimum basic salary in Poland [96]

Don't mistake lazy peasants in villages with normal people.

This is wrong on so many levels that I wouldn't know where to start.

Here: average salary in Poland according to GUS research:

mowimyjak.pl/praca-i-kariera/finanse-i-biznes/ile-wynosi-srednia-pensja-w-polsce,104_37376.html

(details and Polish-English version: [stat.gov.pl/cps/rde/xbcr/gus/PUBL_pw_zatrudnienie_wynagrodzenia_I-III_kw_2011.pdf])
4,015 zł (gross).

Put it here: infor.pl/kalkulatory/wynagrodzenia.html ..and you get around 2,860zł take-home pay.

Also, as Mr Sadowski from Adam Smith Centre points out: "average salary is an optical illusion [...] it's influenced by the big agglomerations where directors of big companies earn tens of thousands zloty'.
ladykangaroo   
18 Feb 2012
News / Should countries be boycotted for offending Poles? [60]

Calling for a boycott- that is ridiculous

Well, I certainly intend to boycott the Dutch website.
I also boycott the ideas of "Polish MEP Jacek Saryusz-Wolski".

Most likely I will also boycott RevokeNice soon enough.

Ah, the little pleasures in life. Yesterday I had no idea I can boycott so many things :D