Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]

It's a process which can be reversed though.. I wouldn't mind to be sterilized for a couple of years. Just imagine, you could do everything which looks remotely female and not ever have to worry yourself about babies!

;P

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]


Either that, or sterilize yourself. (If you're not too worried about STD's that is.)

:)

Love / I don't know if she's married and I don't speak Polish - help me romantic folks [55]


If your conversations are boring, then it means she's boring and a possible relationship will probably be boring aswell. Why don't you call an escort girl if you want to get laid? I don't know, but it might you save you a lot of effort..

:)

Love / Well.. I got a Polish girl pregnant.. [88]


Tell her to do a DNA check once the child is born, and you should take a sample of yourself too. Ask her to send the results to you, and compare the results, and if you're not certain about medical gibberish, consult your doctor. No offense, but she sounds like the type of girl who might sleep around, and you shouldn't have to take care of a child which isn't yours..

Ofcourse there's also a chance that it's your child, and in that case: Be a man and take your responsibilities. (Which shouldn't be too hard for you if she's indeed the hottest thing you've ever seen?)

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


I hate it when I'm right.

:(

UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]


Not yet.


Same here, but in most cases, those are second or third generation immigrants. These people are also educated. I'm talking about the rural folk in China, not the ones who came from cities like Beijing. (I've heard they might be allowed to work in Europe in the not-so-distant future.) But let's not wander off..

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


I think people are slowly starting to realize that this has nothing to do with competition, and many more people will be made redundant if nothing changes, even the people with higher qualifications will eventually lose their privileges if this keeps up.

I'm no oracle or anything, but predicting where such predator mentality will eventually lead us to is fairly simple; If you can't take away much more from people who work for minimum wages, who will you turn on next?

I already know that in some countries they're already speculating that half of the office workers in the governmential system should be layed off and sent home. And then what? Ask the people who are working for minimum wage to pay for their benefits aswell? They're obviously not going to work at the farm or factories, because we have immigrants for that sort of work, don't we? Okay, maybe that's too far-fetched, I'm going out for a moment, I need fresh air and I really need to cool down.

UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]


Well, I remember saying something about it back in 2006, and I got all sorts of funny replies from people who told me to stop whining and to be more competitive. It almost makes me wonder what happened to those people, because they're obviously not posting here anymore.


My uncle is married to a Chinese woman, and I can assure you that many Chinese people - the rural folks - don't speak or understand a word of English.


Ofcourse, that would be totally understandable and justified.


I like your way of thinking.

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]

In part one, the pro-immigrant guy says: Each and everyone gets a thousand pounds richer, it's not pennies at all.

Well Einstein, explain to me how each and everyone who lost their job will get richer? How will an electrician who became too expensive get richer, when immigrants are willing to work for half his salary?

The actual profit in percentages? 1,5% 1,7%,? 2%? Okay, so which people do you think, Einstein, will benefit from the 2%? Exactly, the minority of people who are already wealthy will benefit from this, and the vast majority of people can **** themselves, because you're happy with your job as a lousy reporter. I know it's a cliché, but the rich will get richer, and the poor will get even poorer, and society? Who cares about society?

The old man is right there.

UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]


You're right. Many employers demand you speak some kind of a foreign language these days. (It happens over here aswell!) Now how ridiculous is that? Are we supposed to study Chinese to do simple tasks in our own country next year?


I've seen quite a few people die with my own two eyes. Mostly due to simple things like miscommunication and a lack of safety precautions. I've stopped working as a construction worker, simply because it's not safe anymore. For example, if I will turn off a switch somewhere, and leave a note on the switch not to turn it on, some idiot will turn it on because he can't read Dutch or English..

Maybe I should write a new Electrician's Safety Manual: How do I prevent myself from getting electrocuted?

:S

UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]


You're right, and we should help eachother as people, because they're screwing the foreign workers aswell.

I know for a fact that a Polish construction worker fell of an building once due to lack of safety measures. The Dutch construction workers wouldn't do it and complained about safety, so they were sent home. A Polish team of construction workers got up there, without safety and one guy fell. He died instantly, and the agency he worked for didn't even bother to sent his widow his last salary. This is not a fairytale. It happened. (Taken from the FNV magazine.)

Is this how Polish people fight for their rights? Huh? Come on! You're allowing these leeches to use you like animals, and you put the working people who fight for their rights out of their jobs by accepting such a treatment?

And back home? That's right, what will happen if you go back to Poland? Will you have a job there? Or will some immigrant from the Ukraine do your job because he's cheaper than you? Polish workers who want to stay in England or in Holland? How do you want to do that with less than minimum wage? Without an agency which arranges temporary living space for you? Face it, you're being used, and unfortunately you're also undermining our rights because you comply, and you people don't complain about low wages, you don't even complain about health or safety-related issues.

Think before you do something, and demand a fair treatment for the work you're going to do here. If we're not going to fight for our rights, or show any solidarity, they're going to undermine our position first, and then they'll undermine yours. You might benefit from all of this today, but you might aswell lose it all to another wave of immigrants from another country tomorrow. Is that what you people want then?

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


The official numbers show us that there are currently 675.000 people who are jobless, but I think the actual numbers are much higher, for a variety of reasons I can't be bothered to explain in great detail.


Exactly.


I encourage politicians and business people to invest in countries such as Poland, to make these countries reliable and strong business partners within the EU, which will ofcourse create many more opportunities and many more jobs for all parties included. (Not being idealistic there!)


I do raise those questions, but it's much easier to distance yourself from something when it doesn't really affect you. I'll be the first to admit that this documentary angered me so much I couldn't even pay much attention to the content at first, but I'm not directing my anger towards the immigrants. I don't live in England, but I do feel solidarity for people who are being pushed aside in their own countries. Just imagine being unwanted by your own people.

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


I'm curious.


Yes, absolutely. 100% sure. I have to pay for my first study myself. I'm not sure how you'd call that abroad but it's probably academic highschool, which is called VWO here, which will cost me about 800 € a month. (Keep in mind that minimum wage here means about 1100 € a month.) If I have my VWO degree, I'll be able to apply for a student loan and attend college or university and my problem will be solved.


It's not free here. (You'll have to pay back your student loan aswell after you've finished your studies.)

;)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


You don't sound like a Communist to me, because that's just a simple fact of life.


They used to offer you a job so you could save up for the education you needed in order to recieve a student loan or scholarship to develop yourself. Guess what? These jobs are no longer available. If they are, these short contracts often don't last long enough for you to save enough money. (And you're bound to lose that money when you're unemployed every now an then, because you'll be trying to bridge the financial gaps inbetween jobs.)


If only I could get a job for like two years, I'd be able to finance my study. It's as simple as that. (But you know, foreign workers are better and I'm lazy!)

>:(


It's a decent system, and if you're able to work for a longer period of time then there will be no problems whatsoever. I just need to find one employer who won't mind letting me work for atleast one year. (Which is a problem at the moment, because of the foreign competition.)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


It means you'll have to achieve a certain degree of education to be granted access to college or university, and you will also have to achieve a certain degree of education before you're actually entitled to recieve a student loan. (Or any other kind of additional funding.) Which means I now have to do a study which will cost me about 800 € a month.

:(

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


We have student loans in Holland aswell, but the tricky part is that you won't get a student loan if you're unqualified. They demand higher qualifications in order for you to attend college or university. (Which in itself wouldn't be a problem, if only you could afford the education!) Are you sure this will be different in America? Or anywhere else? If so, I'm all ears..


Don't worry, I got rid of that idea ages ago.

:)


I know I have to do the digging, and I've already done a lot of digging, but where to look abroad? I'm afraid Google just isn't always very helpful or informative when it comes to telephone numbers, additional information, official pages, etc.


Thanks, it seems I'm really going to need it!

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


Nevermind Sean. I'll admit I'm frustrated, because I'm talking to a wall most of the time, and maybe you can imagine I keep hearing it all the time? I'm just sick of these oneliners like: Be more competitive. It's your own responsibility. The ones who want to work will get it. (Etc!)

In the meanwhile, we're not getting anywhere, are we? In addition, videos like these are meant to portray unskilled people as worthless. (I'm sorry if I take that personally!) It's simple, if you keep pushing people aside because they're unskilled or made redundant, and you don't offer them any decent alternatives, then how are we supposed to improve our situation? How are we supposed to contribute?


Well, you can tell me about Ireland or England? (Or Belgium for all I care!) I'm a citizen of the EU, so I might aswell work and study in England, Ireland or Belgium, since I'm perfectly legal to do so, and I don't think it's a complete mystery that I'm able to communicate. You don't have to answer all of my questions, and ofcourse I should also do some research for myself, but I would definitely welcome any helpful suggestions.

I'm supposed to pay for my own education in Holland, which I simply can't afford. So maybe I'll have to look elsewhere? I refuse to sit here any longer, I refuse to waste away like this, and I refuse to watch all kinds of people in Europe who simply decide about my fate for me.


I wish more people would. For what it's worth, you have my thanks, because it seems that too many people don't care anymore.

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]

Watching videos like these really, really make me sick to my stomach. But please do tell. Enlighten me. (Apparantly I'm too stupid.)

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


I'm Dutch, and I would feel sick if Polish workers were depicted like this aswell. (Just so you know!)


Sure, and how do you think guys like me can finance their study when they earn less than minimum wage?


I'm intelligent enough for an education, so how do you envision getting people like me to educate themselves? All this talk about responsibility and the will to work for it is fine with me, but please do explain to me how I'm supposed to pay for my education if I won't get any work because I'm supposedly too lazy. (Because a few people have ''proven'' this.)


What's your point Sean? I will simply tell you I've worked a lot harder than any of those foreigners I've seen in the video. (I've cut three tons of carrots once, and I can assure you that carrots are much and much tougher to cut.) Working shifts of twelve hours? How about working shifts of eighteen hours? (I've done that aswell, for less than minimum wage!) I know a lot of Dutch guys who'd be there an hour before work starts, just to familiarize themselves with the workplace and their tasks. (I'm ex-military, so don't tell me I don't have discipline.)

Education? I'm all ears, but everywhere I go I get none the wiser, and I certainly can't finance a study all by myself when I'm earning less than minimum wage sometimes! So yes, advice would be more than welcome!

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


I did.


You're right, but I obiously didn't gather that much from the first part.


Probably so they can justify selling out their own, and betraying their own working class for a few lousy pounds. You're right, watching this makes me sick. Let that Evan Davis bring his camera, and put me against any of those guys..

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UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


True.


I know what you guys mean. No, I didn't. (Sorry!) I'm now watching the rest. I'll reply again later..

:)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


You don't know what you're talking about. The woman you've seen is crying because it's staged? Go wash your mouth please. I understand that you guys want jobs over there, but so do they. I've heard that the Polish refuse British and Irish workers quite often, so you have no right to call these people loony. Take that last guy for example. 26 years old, barely had any work in the last five years, says he wants to work and give it his all regardless of what job he has to do, but he doesn't seem to stand a chance anywhere. I'm basically in the same position.


There's nothing funny about being made redundant, and it's not their fault either. You sound like someone's who should feel lucky he's never been in that position, but ofcourse it doesn't mean you're any better. Or smarter.

;)

UK, Ireland / Documentary on foreign and local workers in a town in England. [66]


I feel sorry for these guys, because I know what it's like when you want to work in your own country, and you have to hear this a few hundred times.

:(

Love / Nigerian Girls and Polish Guys [43]

I like you.

:)

Language / Poltran? (the free online Polish-English dictionary) - where's it gone? [48]

Wygląda to całkiem nieźle, ale muszę zapytać ekspertów tutaj?

;)

Love / How to turn a No into a Yes (she invited me to Poland to meet her) [30]





Priceless!

xD

Love / I don't know if she's married and I don't speak Polish - help me romantic folks [55]

Myślę o tobie. (I think about you.)
Podobasz mi się. (I like you.)
Co robisz wieczorem? (What are you doing this evening?)
Tu niedaleko jest fajna knajnka. Idziemy? (There's a nice pub not far from here. Wanna come with me?)

:)

Love / I don't know if she's married and I don't speak Polish - help me romantic folks [55]


If you don't sleep with her, someone else will..

;)

UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]

Just the truth.

:)

UK, Ireland / No job unless you're Polish [201]


Nonsense.


Don't make me laugh, I worked thrice as hard as any Polish person I've worked with. No competition for me really.


No they don't. They prefer people who don't complain about salary, rules or even their own safety. They also prefer not to give people permanent contracts, so they can fire people easily. Temporary workers fit this description. It has nothing to do with working harder, quite the contrary, foreign workers don't really care about the nation of their employer, or their employer.. (They'll be working somewhere else tomorrow if they get fired.)


I want to see you when Chinese workers flood your market. (Which will happen sooner or later.) See who's left to help you after you've screwed everyone.


No, it's the sign of a spoiled and decadent elite who are willing to betray their own people in order to play people against eachother. You obviously fell for it, but in the long run, you'll see you won't gain anything from this either.

:)