Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

From my experience with Poland alot of people live like the Waltons..They are the leaders of Europe as far as squashing as many people as possible under the one roof. 3 generation in a sh1tty apartment..Not nice to see and its very common. The wages over there are been kept criminally low as part of their governments agenda to compete in the free market economy...young People just get so sick of living with the waltons that they just pay for mortgages that are absolutely out of their range...Pure desperation thats all...I know several people in this situation.the live a life of borderline poverty..And then people ranting about Poland booming ,what a load of b0l0x.

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

Poland is still Gods playground..Its no longer Germans or Russians that hijack it but their own neo liberals who will wear any jersey for a quick dollar..They have to many loony parties with no real policy except for dog eats dog...The price of housing there is a form of imperialism..

Real Estate / Apartments too expensive for Poles living in Poland [54]

In 2004 it was about 40 cent per hour i think..It had to go up dramatically from this..but no growth of any significants in the last few years.. It wud need to go up a few hundred percent since 2004 to be anyway near normality..

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

I read in a polish language web page that the property prices are now termed as abstract since they are extremely out of reach for the vast majority of poles(old news i know). The prices are as much as 50 % below the asking prices and the bubble property holders are in denial and waiting for a miracle return of growth, so they are holding back in a big game of bluff. This link describes the bubble in the USA but its the same scam as Europe.

chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-15-bubbles

After watching this link The question is.. what happens when the bubble is not even based on the workers in the country but by Polish working for wages 5 or 6 times higher in the west. I hear that the prices are very slow to drop in the eastern part of Poland as this is where there is the highest emigration and in countrys like Czech Republic the prices are crashing because they didnt have such mass migration to England and Ireland etc. Crashing back to normality for the average worker in the country.

What will happen to Poland will it stay abstract for years to come????

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

What's the game with some guys on this forum are they delusional?? Spin Docs for the real estate developers?? victims of the straw man argument??mistaking blips for signs of long term recovery.. and who the fcuk is Mark??chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-15-bubbles

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

I asked a complex question straw man in relation to the Polish situation. My priorities are simple and honest unlike some lol.. I would like to purchase a property in Poland when the prices are sober again.. I will wait for the bluff to end. The prices are going down but only a mad man would buy now. I have queries as states above in previous text and I will take a jump into the dark but not in relation to buying property. There is a difference between risk and absolute stupidity. Life in Poland is hard enough never mind with the noose of super inflated mortgage around your neck for a couple of decades. Im here in Ireland with half a country in tears because they fell for the hype and spin of the vultures and their little lackies in parliament. Anyhow the way the EU is going at the moment maybe europe as a whole will be in the dark so there will be no need for me to make a jump it'll be dark already.By the way its a blip...blip blip in relation to Britain stop reading the expert opinion of tabloids lol.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

A mate of mine who is a journalist for a local newspaper in the lovely land of saints and scholars told me that sponsors for the paper would pull out if they printed the facts about the property bubble bursting. So they all went along with the scam and only printed lies to maintain the illusion. Now that it is burst and splattered all over the land they are all printing story's about how fcuked up everything is and how nobody saw it coming. The bubble in Poland is a lot worse than anything here but there are some who wouldn't notice a bubble even if their dumb ass was submerged in a bubble-bath.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

There are plenty of article about prices going down and they have been discussed already.
The same was here in Ireland at the start,independent journalist could talk about the drop in prices but the government lackies where like the guys in the Albert Camus novel denying that the plague had started. The ESRI and all the experts were constantly releasing statistic facts about the health of Irish property and economy just like they are now releasing sh1te about how the recession will end by the end of 2011 or beginning of 2012.Poland is a lot different as its property market is not based on the Polish economy.

My question as stated already was simply...
I hear that the prices are very slow to drop in the eastern part of Poland as this is where there is the highest emigration and in countrys like Czech Republic the prices are crashing because they didnt have such mass migration to England and Ireland etc. Crashing back to normality for the average worker in the country.

The internet especially in the english language is absolutely full of sights stating that the property in Poland is strong and still showing signs of growth and this is all backed by stats from reliable experts with government blessing.The chicago boys are strong into polish property.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

Maybe something will give soon,how long will the greed dogs hold onto their illusion?

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

It scares me that in this day and age people can still be manipulated by a few cliches(rent money is dead money etc etc). I understand that coercive advertisement is all about looking for some sucker to empty his pockets, but to agree to enter a life of super inflated mortgage slavery, so some some gangster banker-developer can change his Mercedes-Benz S-Class every year because he his sick of the color,this is scary. I know people who put more thought into getting a laptop than they did into the bubble house they bought. People did not even know that there was a bubble, they were more interested in Posh And Becks,Desperate Housewives and the bubbles on Scarlett Johansson (technologies of distraction). When someone like David Mcwilliams(prophets of Doom) was on TV or writing books about the inevitable coming crises they all(buyers) just transcended him in order to remain focused on their blind submission to the dominant cultural view perpetrated by the status quo and its business interests.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

Ah well you know what they say an idiot is born every second. I'm sure your idiot buyers(if not fictional) had plenty of factual stats from the experts to justify their decision.

Ireland is far too cold for a tent but I know a lot of people up to their eyeballs in negative equity who would glad-fully risk a winter in a tent if it meant getting the banker-developer gun from their head....But its nice to hear that you are advising them on the logical alternative fair play to you MR developer your a heart of gold lol.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

WB
lol money talks eh
Sure listen snarky straw-Men Developer bubble denialists, if you insist with this Mark thing fine,,call me Milky-Mark.
I got some logical reply's from the others on this site so im happy, lets see what will happen in the next year or so. Life is to short for arguing with developers and their hired lackies. Yawn

Milkymark lol
such twats

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

Like i said Life is to short for arguing with developers and their hired lackies and their DIRTY TRICKS Yawn

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

Sorry lads to disappoint you,That was a cut a paste job,the words are mine for sure but not put there by me. Polsky naughty-boy who ever you are.

Oh and liven up buddy your a developer what would you know about integrity.
The point is bubble bubble bubble

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

hha god yea people are loons lol i have no idea what ye are talking about but im finding it amusing.However i am aware that yee or you or two or three are preventing democratic debate on this site because it profits yee or you to maintain the nativity of buyers.

First you call me a dumb mick (oh im so insulted lol, cheap stunt)) then you tried the straw Man Argument(expert facts, disinformation) and then you resort to good old tabloid snark(accusing me of spamming while you use a load of spammers to give a democratic aura to your dis information) Its like taking away food from a cat and then he attacks with such acute aggression. Good job though! yee do on hijacking websites i must say. Conquer and divide eh and dilute the base so the viewers can no longer decipher the facts, that your tactic.. I can assure you i don't have the answers for what has happened in eastern europe ( that's why i ASKED a question twats) and what is happening to the EU right now but i am sitting right now in my PJ s in the middle of Ireland on the shores of the majestic shannon and i have one body and one mind i am just me. I am not one of yee hire spamming boys for the fat developer of uncontrolled capitalism who brought this country and maybe the EU to its feet. I love healthy debate but not DIRTY TRICKS.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

No problem Polsky your welcome.

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

lol get a life will yee.
The straw men are pulling at straws now.
All i asked before i got dragged into this game was
I read in a polish language web page that the property prices are now termed as abstract since they are extremely out of reach for the vast majority of poles(old news i know). The prices are as much as 50 % below the asking prices and the bubble property holders are in denial and waiting for a miracle return of growth, so they are holding back in a big game of bluff. This link describes the bubble in the USA but its the same scam as Europe.

chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-15-bubbles

After watching this link The question is.. what happens when the bubble is not even based on the workers in the country but by Polish working for wages 5 or 6 times higher in the west. I hear that the prices are very slow to drop in the eastern part of Poland as this is where there is the highest emigration and in country's like Czech Republic the prices are crashing because they didn't have such mass migration to England and Ireland etc. Crashing back to normality for the average worker in the country.

What will happen to Poland will it stay abstract for years to come?

Real Estate / House prices in Poland to drop more or rise again? [228]

lol get a life will yee.
The straw men are pulling at straws now.
All i asked before i got dragged into this game was
I read in a polish language web page that the property prices are now termed as abstract since they are extremely out of reach for the vast majority of poles(old news i know). The prices are as much as 50 % below the asking prices and the bubble property holders are in denial and waiting for a miracle return of growth, so they are holding back in a big game of bluff. This link describes the bubble in the USA but its the same scam as Europe.

chrismartenson.com/crashcourse/chapter-15-bubbles

After watching this link The question is.. what happens when the bubble is not even based on the workers in the country but by Polish working for wages 5 or 6 times higher in the west. I hear that the prices are very slow to drop in the eastern part of Poland as this is where there is the highest emigration and in country's like Czech Republic the prices are crashing because they didn't have such mass migration to England and Ireland etc. Crashing back to normality for the average worker in the country.

What will happen to Poland will it stay abstract for years to come?

Im finished with this debate for now because its too dirty and i dont talk to scumbags in reality so good luck to the dirty tricks boy, .The aggression and insults coming from developers on this page is disgusting and really weird..Slan go foill! chicagoBoys. Tiocfaidh ar la

Study / 90% of Poles have university degree? [57]

I thinks this is a world wide problem and not just Poland. Its the effect of an unregulated market economy. Degrees,masters,PHD,super PHD with wings get them in McDonalds soon with a milkshake. No point anymore in having these pieces of paper unless you know the right people. Qualifications are no longer a mark of distinction if every Tom Dick and Harry has them.

Study / 90% of Poles have university degree? [57]

Yea its a huge problem here for sure. Low grades are now accepted as colleges want to hold on to numbers and other colleges basically selling qualification so you get them in quarter the time. Everybody is now stayng in college to get masters in the hope that the economy will have picked up in the mean time lol.

Looks like we are returning back to feudilism. Distinction decided on bloodlines.

UK, Ireland / Moving from Ireland to Poland [39]

Disillusioned with Ireland. As an Irish person i can safely say its great in Ireland economically compared to Poland..Their gangster banker politicions etc are big bad wolves as well. The way I look at it is that if you have to work and pay a mortgage over there you will be enomically f0cked for the rest of your life. Even to build over there is as expensive as Ireland and the wages there are 4 to 6 time lower...

Law / Poland's going forward while Britain is still trying to wake up [86]


Prepared is the wrong word i think you mean forced. I have close friends and family in Poland and they are just living under sh1t circumstances and see no way out..They are not prepared.

Law / Poland's going forward while Britain is still trying to wake up [86]


explain

Law / Poland's going forward while Britain is still trying to wake up [86]


I think some people especially on this forum think that the Poles are just second class citizen of the EU and those greedy developers could not care less as long as they make profit. Let them buy their clothes in cheap supermarkets etc and go search for cheap food bla bla bla.what a neck.. Life is really hard for average families in Poland full stop.

Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]

Well if you earn a typical wage of 2000 zloty a month and you rent or have a mortgage,,After food,bills, beer and clothes (forget about children). I d say you would have roughly about no savings what so ever.

Unless you still have money you saved while working in the west.

Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]

And Irish

Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]


Im talking net wage people cannot save their tax...
A teacher earns about half that, and the minumum wage is 8 zloty an hour. so if you earn 3000 zloty you are on a middle class wage, no???

Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]

Good for her, im happy she is making such good money now.

Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]

maybe she is fictional like everything else that he says.

Law / How much does the average Pole have in cash savings? [38]


The perfect wife for you lol