Whatever, guys. Maybe one day you will open your eyes.
Torq - I was sleepy yesterday (well today at 1 am) and I lost my edti:
maybe there were some swindles here and there during PiS rule - however compared to the amount of VAT fraud, mafias importing fuel illegally and selling them without paying taxes, the amount of money extorted from the state through fake drug prescriptions durign the time of PO-PSL before 2015 they were simply peanuts - just compare the income of the Polish states (which comes mainly from taxes) in 2015 and in 2023 (respectively 290 and 600 billion PLN) - after taking inflation out of the equation (cumulative inflation between 2015 and 2024 was about 50 per cent) the income of the Polish state was 50 per cent higher than in 2015 - after only 8 years - there is an even more striking comparison to marvel at: in 2018 the income of the Polish state was 380 billion PLN while the inflation rate between 2018 and 2015 was lest than 4 per cent - in just 3 years it grew more than 25 per cent - and practically no tax hikes happened in the process - that's the testament to the robbery of the state during PO+PSL rule
also some of the scandals you attribute to PiS were just mishandling, blunders, maybe even some incompetence (especially in international negotiations)
you just need to see things in perspective (and to give a point to those figures I'll use a quote from our fabulous minister of finances, Jacek Rostowski: "Piniendzy, nie ma i nie będzie") - watch this video to refresh your memory and maybe ponder a bit about these things: youtu.be/eiBhDBkrUKg
Thieves who were supposed to make money on, made their money
oh, thieves - yeah, you should denounce them - prosecutors will be happy -
PiS was trying to build a big national energy company able to invest in new fields (like wind farms off the Baltic coast which are scrapped now from what I can gather) - maybe we should have simply stick to coal and **** the EU
Getback: are you sure vindication companies are under the supervision of Bank Supervisory Commission (KNF)? I'm not (they have to only if they want to deal in very specific areas of vindication)
life-support machines? was there a surplus of these on the market in the early COVID days? wasn't the government desperate to DO SOMETHING or were they supposed to step up to the cameras and say: "Sorry folks, there are no respirators on the market, your grandparents will have to die"
For Poles, English is a nightmare as is Polish for the average Anglophone:-)
you are completely wrong - English has a very gentle learning curve compared to Polish (thanks to quite straightforward grammar: no declination to speak of of nouns and adjectives,no grammatical genders, maximum of 4 different forms of verbs with a whole lot of them being regular ie following a simple pattern) - the biggest problem with English is getting the hang of the spoken language (with understanding the spoken language being the bigger obstacle than speaking it well enough to be understood) - I wouldn't count English ortography as a problem because, from my experience, you mostly learn new English words in written form (well at school it is both written and spoken at the same time actually) - well, OK, there is also the vast and nuanced vocabulary which you need to master the language (I will probably never master English tbh, which only proves that it is not that difficult to attain intermediate level if you have average memory)
by the way: as far as I can remember "Poland in ruin" was not the main motto of PiS parliamentary campaign in 2015 - also the leaked "tapes" of 2014 had the home secretary/minister of internal affairs say: "Polish state is only in theory". This and the VAT fraud scale before PiS came to power justified "Poland in ruin" to some extent in my opinion.
it is pretty easy to verify if "hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Africa and the Middle East were brought to the country" because it would be readily visible around you
can I call those people who believed that "PiS brought in hundreds of thousands of immigrants from Africa and the Middle East" and voted for "the democratic camp" stupid , too - or is it some breech of DEMOCRACY
how about PiS claiming that tens of billions of PLN were being drained from the Polish state budget by VAT fraudsters during that election campaing - was it a lie, too?
so how come people believed in that lie if it wasn't true at all
as for Tusk's grandpa - Jacek Kurski who brought up the accusation was relegated from the PiS presidential campaing office and Lech Kaczyński publicly apologized to Tusk about the accusation in a television debate (as per wikipedia) - this source claims Kurski was expelled from the party in fact, as a result: wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/7,114873,2969023.html
OK. North Vietnam along with Vietcong lost the war.
I have already said it was South Vietnam who lost the war - but you are right to an extent there were millions of Vietnamese from the North and those in Viet Kong who also lost the war mainly because they lost their lives
firstly it was businesses who applied for work permits for foreigners not the government - secondly only a fraction of those who received work permits actually received Polish visas - thirdly foreign workers are workers: they pay taxes and don't cost the state any money - and on the fourth count: if you followed the proceedings of the "Visa scandal commision" in the Sejm you would know that there is now talk only about a couple of hundreds fraudulent visa cases there
Germans know the law and are sending back migrants who entered the EU in Poland.
yes indeed - I didn't know about the point b) - so let's look at the numbers - less than 4 thousand people in 2022 who claimed asylum in Poland or entered the EU in Poland and then sought to claim an asylum or were caught as illegals in Germany - it's not a staggering number if you ask me if you take into consideration that it was the middle of the Belarus border crisis - and also they could have crossed the EU border in Lithuania and were maliciously sent back to Poland by the Germans (there were numerous instnaces back then when Polish police and border guards caught people travelling from Lithuania to Germany through Poland being transported by human traffickers)
there was no actual referendum back then (2015) - PiS won on the promise they would no accept "migrant quotas" that Western European countries wanted to share with us - and they kept their word
wait a sec though - there was an actual referendum on this last year along the last elections - however the referendum was mostly boycotted by the followers of the then opposition (now forming a government) because they were told to do so by the oppositon figures (as our current prime minister, Mr Tusk said "I cancel this referendum")
because of the boycott the referendum had not enough people voting to be binding (less then 50 per cent of those eligible voted but the vast majority of those who did voted against the idea of "migrant quotas")
(the story is not quite as straightforward though, because there were actually four questions in the referendum and only one of those was on the topic of immigration - what remains though that people depraved themselves of the right to vote on important issues because of one deranged man (Tusk) who now poses as the one true defender of Polish borders against immigration)
Hey, guys, what was the outcome of the last referendum on migrants?
the last referendum on migrants was held during the elections in 2015 when PiS won mainly thanks to strongly opposing the "let's share the migrants around in Europe we have too much of them in Germany" idea and then followed by doing whatever they could to stop the idea's realisation
the US didn't lose the war - Americans just reached a conclusion that they are not ready to sacrifice any more American lives to fight the war in defence of South Vietnam - it was South Vietnam that lost the war, that's for sure
Górale are a stubborn folk and they like sticking to their traditions including their speech - if it was just for a financial incentive I doubt they would retain it
the US didn't invade Iraq twice - the first Gulf war was to liberate Kuwait from Iraqis - but feel free to correct me
also Ukraine IS low on heavy weapons and low on ammunitions for those heavy weapons - for every shell the Ukrainias fired Russians fired at least 10 - also the shortage of manpower has only been a problem for Ukraine for about last two or three months
Nobody bombed anybody into surrender.
actually the US bombed Japan into surrender - and I don't mean only the A-bombs
1) you don't take into consideration the impact of the bombing of the German cities and industrial facilities by the Western Allies
2) you don't take into consideration the material support the US gave to the Soviet Union (their army would probably starve if it weren't for America - there was a severe famine in the Soviet Union in the years FOLLOWING the WW2 - but of course it wasn't just food that the US supplied to Russians)
3) you don't take into consideration the intelligence assistance the Western Allies gave Russians - in case of the Kursk battle which cost Germans so many resources and where they lost any strategic initiative, Russians knew about half a year in advance about the planned German operation thanks to the British codebreakers - as a result Russians had vast preparations in the area with as much as six lines of defences and thousands of tanks, planes and aritllery pieces deployed in the area
