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Polish-Ukranian roots and genes [72]
Ukrainians are genteic mix
And you are a mix between a b*tch in heat and a castrated mule.
Dupuy et al. (2005) speculated that "R1a [in Norway] might represent the spread of the Corded Ware and Battle-Axe cultures from central and east Europe." Luca et al. (2006), looking at data from the Czech Republic suggested there was evidence for a rapid demographic expansion approximately 1500 years ago. Rebala et al. (2007) also detected Y-STR evidence of a recent Slavic expansion from the area of modern Ukraine. Gwodzdz (2009) saw evidence for a "rapid population expansion somewhat less than 1,500 years ago in the area that is now Poland".
So scientists are not sure about where R1a1a originated and if they even pinpointed exactly the region, it would be still 1,500 years ago where neither of the two nations existed.
Apes share 99% of the their genome with humans. So how much do you expect to be a difference between two neighbors, not separated by seas, forests, mountains,...?
really ?
I hate to explain something to somebody so evidently ignorant of the subject.
let's put it this way - very sparsely populated,
Ignorant are you:
The economic development of Kievan Rus may be translated into demographic statistics. Around 1200, Kiev had a population of 50,000 people, Novgorod and Chernigov both had around 30,000 people.[16] Constantinople had population of about 400,000 people around 1180.[17] The Soviet scholar Mikhail Tikhomirov calculated that Kievan Rus' on the eve of the Mongol invasion had around 300 urban centers.[18]
In 1200:
Venice - a state-port, business center of the world -
80,000London! -
20,000-25,000Paris -
c.80,000According to Mottek,
10-15% of Germans lived in cities, the rest - in the countryside in 1100-1200 years. Since Kievan Rus' was one of the strongest kingdoms in Europe, not even mentioning military deeds, king Yaroslaw the Wise married his daughters out into other royal families:
Elizabeth of Kiev to Harald III of Norway (who had attained her hand by his military exploits in the Byzantine Empire); Anastasia of Kiev to the future Andrew I of Hungary, and the youngest daughter Anne of Kiev married Henry I of France and was the regent of France during their son's minority. Another daughter may have been the Agatha who married Edward the Exile, heir to the throne of England and was the mother of Edgar Ætheling and St. Margaret of Scotland.
Two urban centers like L'viv and Kholm (the second was renamed Chelm and now is in Poland) were built by Ukrainian king Danylo Halyckiy in 12th century before Polish barbarians invaded the country.
Let's logically assume the same population distribution. Then, make a calculation: 300 urban centers with an average let's say even 3,000 people = 900,000 urban dwellers. The total population will then be c.
6 million people (10% of European population!!!) It doesn't seem sparesely populated.
pol-and.eu/EN/History10-12Century.html
At the beginning of the 12th century Poland was inhabited by c.a. 1,5 million people. Biggest cities: Gniezno, Cracow, Wrocław and Wolin had 4-5 thousand inhabitants on average.
Looks like little villages ;) in comparison to Kijiv and Chernigiv. Compare Gniezno
One of the Piasts' chief cities, it was the first capital of Poland in the 10th century
to Kijiv
The city may have been founded in the 5th century as a trading post, perhaps part of the land of the early Slavs. It gradually acquired eminence as the centre of the East Slavic civilization, becoming in the tenth to twelfth centuries a political and cultural capital of Rus', a medieval East Slavic state
Newspapers like "Lomza news" often make similar claims and I see Ironside is an active subscriber. Try to look more extensively and no, Poles didn't come to some bare fields and didn't bring culture as many of you imagine: they came into well developped country and more then sure borrowed a lot from its culture.
