News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

.....not in Ukraine!

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

I have my doubts....and what is "G*rmany"?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

....the need to feel "good" is strong!

But I wonder if Ukraine could be bribed to take them all in....would that feasible???

And would the illegals follow? They must know that then Germany is a no-go.....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Gerald Knaus just called (the advisor of Merkel...the one with the grande idea to pay Erdogan those billions).....he now says Poland should disturb Lukashenko's trafficker modell and take the immigrants in first BUT then distribute them across safe non-EU countries (Ukraine???).

The democratic countries should build an "anti-blackmail-pact" against Putin and Lukashenko.

focus.de/politik/ausland/lukaschenkos-schleusermodell-zerstoeren-xxx_id_24424798.html

I wonder what the Ukraine thinks of that idea.....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

....for all those self-declared "Menschenfreunde" people like me with more of a rational brain still on their shoulders we often were called "Menschenhasser" or "Rassisten"....or "Islamophobes" and what not.

Also very popular: We (especially Ossis) need more exposure to such illegals so that we come to understand and like them better (no joke)....


No, it shouldn't....but our "Menschenfreunde" feel themselves so much superior to everybody else...

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Well.....it's not such a clear cut black-white case, and 2015 was such a disaster we still haven't fully recovered from....the changes in the german political landscape are profound and there to stay. There is no appetite for more of that!

Understandable...but longterm the biggest change will be the break of the taboo about fortified EU outer borders, the "Festung Europa"....mark my words!

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


It won't be only brainless leftists becoming nuclear waste if pushes came to shove and someone presses the red button....me in Berlin too! You are gonna miss me, so there! :(

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Erm....


the-sun.com/news/4040068/us-nuclear-germany-eagle-hypersonic-missiles-moscow/



Might have something to do with that?


bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-11/u-s-warns-europe-that-russian-troops-may-plan-ukraine-invasion

....The U.S. is raising the alarm with European Union allies that Russia may be weighing a potential invasion of Ukraine as tensions flare between Moscow and the bloc over migrants and energy supplies.

With Washington closely monitoring a buildup of Russian forces near the Ukrainian border, U.S. officials have briefed EU counterparts on their concerns over a possible military operation, according to multiple people familiar with the matter....

Still.....going nuclear now? Over Illegals???

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Hopefully our next chancellor has more of a spine.....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


And here I thought Poland would be also glad to keep the Illegals away from the polish border....what exactly is your problem now?

I find it more humiliating that Merkel is begging Putin for help....that's much worse! As if Lukashenko does anything without Putin's approval....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Blame Trump for the detoriating relationship between the US and the EU....that was never wanted by Germany!

That was a stupid thing to do to put the US trust to Russia and China....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Well...it wasn't as if Trump had much love for the Europeans in the first place....put the blame where it belongs!

The first thing he did once in office was showing the Europeans the finger and brownnosing the Chinese....what do you expect?

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I doubt that....that call was about Lukashenko, not Poles....why do you believe she talked about Poland?

twitter.com/bopanc/status/1458385013502844929

Merkel called Putin to ask him to influence Belarusto stop "inhumane and inacceptable" use of migrants at the EU border

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Interesting....Twitter now says:

#Migrants at the border were offered to ask for asylum in #Belarus or return home

twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1458780738153816067

That means there is no reason to try for Poland and the EU anymore.....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Everybody needs a friend....Crowie too! 🥺

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Poland Putin's puppet??? I find that hard to imagine....with Hungary I'm sadly not so sure, Orban is also a fan of China! :(

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


*nods*

I think the same...

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Now it get's interesting:


reuters.com/world/europe/lukashenko-belarus-will-retaliate-against-any-new-eu-sanctions-could-cut-gas-2021-11-11/

...On Thursday, he raised the possibility of cutting off the Yamal gas pipeline that carries Russian gas across Belarus en route to Poland and Germany.

"We are heating Europe, they are still threatening us that they will close the border. And if we shut off natural gas there?," Lukashenko said in comments published by the state news agency Belta.

"Therefore, I would recommend that the Polish leadership, Lithuanians and other headless people think before speaking," he was cited as saying....

But for that he needs Putin's backing....will he dare? *gets popcorn*

PS: But that of course is exact that situation why NordStream was being build in the first place....to cut out such unreliable middlemen....

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Well...most of Germany has....that where originaly are "only a few thousands" on the Autobahns can become quickly a million knocking on your door! And that we don't want a repeat.......and I think the rest of Europe has learned by watching. Not every bad experience you have to make yourself!

No "refugees welcome" poster with teddy bears this time....

I wouldn't downtalk Frontex so much, the german leftist hate them....they blame Frontex in the Med for pushbacks of people, especially his chef Fabrice Leggeri has become some kind of enemy for our open-borders guys and gals!

spiegel.de/ausland/frontex-skandal-europapolitiker-fordern-ruecktritt-von-fabrice-leggeri-a-c8c447f3-1982-4d07-80ee-cf2592736254

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Well....they should p*iss off L some more.....

Maybe about time....Europe making itself independent from NATO:


reuters.com/world/europe/europe-is-danger-top-diplomat-propose-eu-military-doctrine-2021-11-10/

...."Europe is in danger," Borrell said in the foreword of the full strategy document that has been sent to the EU's 27 states for debate. "We need to have rapid deployment capabilities," he also told reporters.

One idea is to have a 5,000-strong EU crisis force, Borrell said, stressing though that the U.S.-led NATO alliance remains primarily responsible for Europe's collective defence....

For what do we have that common defence and security policy after all?

..."We have a strategic responsibility. Citizens want to be protected. Soft power is not enough," Borrell said of the economically powerful EU, the world's largest trade bloc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Security_and_Defence_Policy

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The next round of sanctions are already underway....

Exclusive: EU close to deal on new round of Belarus sanctions, diplomats say

reuters.com/world/europe/exclusive-eu-close-deal-new-round-belarus-sanctions-diplomats-say-2021-11-09/

The European Union is close to imposing more sanctions on Belarus, targeting some 30 individuals and entities including the foreign minister and Belarusian airline Belavia, with approval as early as next week, three EU diplomats said.....

Next monday, when the foreign ministers meet, they should be subscribed officially!

...EU states are also considering broadening economic sanctions on Belarus imposed in July by targeting the local reinsurance sector and its main company state-owned BelarusRe, diplomats said.

The fifth package of asset freezes and travel bans on Belarusian state officials and businesses....

More sanctions this month would take the total number of people under asset freezes and travel bans in Belarus to almost 200 people - including Lukashenko and his sons - as well as more than a dozen institutions and companies.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


They are for sure pro-Putin (as is the AfD)....but they are even more anti-Immigrants.....should be a popcorn moment when the decision looms! :)

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


...absolutely useless!

But the GREENS are lucky that bruhaha now comes to late for the elections or they would end up somewhere in the single-digit realm.....there is no majority in Germany for the kind of open borders and more support money the Greens and Leftists want for these immigrants, not in Germany and not anywhere in Europe!

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


How....with building a wall to keep foreign invaders out? Does that count as "provoking a war" with you?

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

....give it a bit....

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


....we will survive that!


I would ask in Brussels for a refund....it can't be that Poland has to pay only for everything!

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


I'm just not sure they will like that.....:)

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

....great work! :)

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Actually I agree.....that could be the hour of "Festung Europa" (till now more or less a talked about concept only) and the end of the bitching between the members....nothing is better for unity than an external threat!


The UK is no longer the EU's problem...


The US is in need of a real wall too....

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...at least you are to smart and know it all! :)