News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Torq
Why? Because im patriotic?

Look, i travel alot. Australia, New Caledonia, Japan, Chile, Peru...but never was in Poland. Why you think it is that way? Im 23 years old, Poland is Just 2h Drive from me but i never went there yet.

Most Germans have little to no interest. Its our poor, little backwarded, sometimes annoying neighbor.

Have you ever seen how Poland is portrayed in our TV? In Comedy? We have a Show called Deutsche Welle Polen...

Just Look

prosieben.de/tv/switch-reloaded/video/9-deutsche-welle-polen-napf-clip

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Torq
I dont See polish as "battle ready". Poland is a weak country. Sorry but Germany never took poland serious.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

Germany doesnt trust Russia. We also dont trust USA. Nations have interests and thats it. Nobody in eastern Germany is scared of Russia. Infact we see it as natural partner when it is about rescources like gas and oil.

We see Poland as american poodle and 5th column and we see poland as unimportant regarding that, which is also shown in our politics, since Germany never asks Poland for permission and just sits down with Putin and makes deals.

A good example is Nordstream 2. We want cheap gas. We wont buy american trash, that is 30% more expensive, because poland wants it. The pipeline will be completed, no matter what.

As for defense, Russia is no threat for Germany. Its an ecomomic dwarf. Soldiers in 2020 are useless, no matter if its one or 1 million. Germany is a nuclear nation that has chosen nuclear latency. The so called japan option. We can build any form of nuclear weapon in a matter of days if needed. Russia would never attack us. But also for economic and political reasons. Russia depends on our payments for oil and gas. Once that ends, they starve.

As for military, Germany has a underfunded military, true but its nr 8 in the world and magnitudes greater than polish ones.

I think the core is, USA is an enemy of Germany much more than Russia is. Also USA is a superpower in collapse. Its global influence shrinks at dramatic speed.

There is a reason why Putin wants a german - russian alliance. Our technological power and economic power plus russian rescources is a very good combo.

Putin speaks fluent German plus he knows what we want.

AfD has no problem with Putin. He is a guy we can make business with. AfD supports that russia took crimea. In an interview Putin said there might be ways that we can get land back that we lost and we can discuss that and find solutions for that.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@pawian
Keep in mind that Germany does not share polands fear for russia. Russia is a economic dwarf. A nigeria with snow.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Spike31
Poland is under american boot. While Germany opposses USA, we See Poland as american poodle.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Lenka
Here in Germany its always reported on all big newspapers that Poland wants this and that. Magazines like Bild use it to steer up anti polish ressentiments.

You know what? My grandparents are fiercly anti russian and anti polish. My parents are slightly anti polish.

My generation here is neutral towards poles. Thats why i said i have no problem to talk with them (you propably got it wrong).

But this stuff keeps being triggered up and it goes in directions that i believe, poles cant want.

They say Poland demands 1 trillion € reparations. That amount of money would destroy us if we realy paid it. IT would destroy us a s a nation and the very thought about an amount of money that big triggers defense feelings, because it feels like an attack against us.

Thats understandable, right?

Greece tried the same in their debt crisis and achieved direct oppossite of what they wanted. After they plaid the WW II song, Germany acted relentless and without mercy on them. Totally normal reaction.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@kaprys

Im sorry that your family suffered. But maybe see, that mine had not such a great time as well? They had to start completly new. We have a big farm here in Thüringen, own land and forests but all this was because hard work of my grandparents and parents who build evrything new.

Millions of Germans had to leave their home too. What you say happened also to Germans. Maybe try to see other side as well.

Do you think my grandmothers family was greeted with open arms here? They were germans but treated like **** from locals in Thüringen.

My grandmothers parents were not political. They got no polish cattle or workers. Her mother was a math teacher, her father worked at train station repairing steam lokomotives.

You know, she is from a village called Kuhnersdorf. I heared its close to Breslau. I never was in Poland and sometimes i would like to know where half my family came from.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@mafketis
We live in 2020. I give a **** about WW II.

Is that clear? What i talk about is polish hostility against Germany in 2020.

Does Poland actually expect to get any money from us? I mean thats ridicolous. Using astronomical high amounts is even more funny.

What do they try to achieve with that? Would like to understand to see how i think about that.

@Lenka

Well actually in my state Thüringen we are already at 25% and currently push Merkels voting minions down the drain. We are already Nr. 2 in parliament.

Who votes for us? Patriotic Germans like myself who love their country and have enough of WW II bullshit.

Im 23 years old. Im not responsible for WW II. My parents were not responsible for WW II and even my grandparents were not. And i dont allow anyone to try to make me for something responsible that i have nothing to do with.

I think thats quite understandable, right?

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@mafketis
Germany needed acess to its area in Danzig. It was Poland denieing this, plus Poland printed postcards that said they want attack Germany.

After all thats irrelevant. Im a young german and will certainly not apologize for anything nor do i feel any guilt for anything. Im damn proud fr my country and allow noone trying to use WW II as a whip against my people.

Im in the Junge Alternative, youth organisation of AfD. And we have more and more political sucess. Poland would be wise to act in a more friedly way towards Germany or would be in for a hard awakeneing.

As i said, i have no problem with poles. But i take nothing.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Spike31

The F.35 is dead as well. Since its slow, has no stealth (was busted by german passive radar).

F.35 cant operate alone without F-22 or Typhoon support,. Once its detected, its a dead duck.

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Lenka

My grandmother attacked nobody, killed nobody and robbed nobody. She was 6 years then.

We too can demand reparations or revenge.

I believe its in polands best interest to come to good relations with Germany.

It will not get a single cent if it is acting like an enemy, but will pay a big price if it attacks us.

As for WW II, it was Poland that started attacks against Germans first.

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@Miloslaw
Thats bullshit. One engine means its slower. The F-35 tops speed at 1500 km/h. Thats almost 900km/ slower than typhoon Eurofighter.

All in all this is a problem more and more. Poland is a american vasall of the worst kind and a security risk for not just Germany but also France and EU in general.

A american 5th colon

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

@pawian

It has only one engine. Its acceleration is slow. It depends on a helmet which is manufactured for each pilot and costs 680.000 €. Just the helmet. It needs climatized hangar. Breaks down under normal comditions and its stealth feature was hacked by a new german radar system.

Well Poland is known to buy overprized american trash alot.

How did it work for LOT to be Boeing only? Ha ha ha ha

News / Modern F-35 bought by Poland. Good decision? [288]

Overprized bad aircraft, too slow, just one engine, thousands of flaws.

News / How Poland bought German Airline Condor and might lose massive from it [34]

@Torq
I make it easy for you. Abc are non germans.

How many i have hunted doesnt matter, at least in a public forum.

Im far right. Im in the Junge Alternative, which is youth organisation of AfD.

As for solutions, i believe in pull and push factors. Its important to have strong push factors against migrants. Hostile environment ect.

And it works. Most of the scum Merkel let in in 2015 did run away from eastern german states.

As for poles, i have no problem with them as tourists or guests. As long they behave, show respect and leave.

News / How Poland bought German Airline Condor and might lose massive from it [34]

@Torq
Nothing to do with wealth. Eastern Germans dont like non germans. We make no difference between muslims, slavs or africans. This is Germany. Tourists can come, rest can **** off. The arabs get hunted through streets here.

That said, all of Germany has less muslims than we once had jews. Considering how well AfD does, i dont see this as problem.

As for Condor, Lufthansa doesnr act like a baby. They act reasonable.

And Condor was never cheap. People did chose it, because it had good german standards.

I doubt LOT understands the german market, so this will not end well.

News / How Poland bought German Airline Condor and might lose massive from it [34]

@Torq
Poles must be very weak if mosque scares you.

Im from Thüringen, we have no mosques but one thing is important to say.

Poland is an economic dwarf compared to Germany. Its also kinda backwarded eastern european country with low standards.

Would i as a German want fly in a polish aircraft? Propably not. I dont think their standards or in german level.

Its up to german people to decide if they want fly polish and majority doesnt want fly polish.

I go with my girl to iceland in september.

If i fly Lufthansa, i get german standard and my money stays in Germany. If i book condor i now get bad standard and my money goes Poland.

Sorry but definitly no.

News / How Poland bought German Airline Condor and might lose massive from it [34]

@cms neuf
Süddeutsche Zeitung says Lufthansa wants kick out LOT out of miles and more and also sue LOT in EU court.

So i assume Lufthansa is serious regarding that.

News / How Poland bought German Airline Condor and might lose massive from it [34]

@pawian
Poland is a tiny market for a german giant like Lufthansa.

Take note that Poland is a small country business wise.

We talk about Poland here, not a country with influence over Germany. So what Poland does or not is irrelevant.

Lufthansa had a contract with Condor. Not LOT and that shuttle service will end.

As news say today, Lufthansa does not just kick out Condor but entire LOT

reisetopia.de/news/lufthansa-plant-verbannung/

Thats basicly the kill switch for Condor and LOT on the German market.

They already make adds here to avoid Condor, because nobody knows the airline will survive next year. Dont spend money on tickets that you might lose

when they go down.

Travel / Where is good Hotel near Morasko for meteorite collecting? [6]

@Ziemowit

It doesnt work very well in German.

But lots of Morasko meteorite is here in private collectors hands.

So far its the most easy iron meteorite you can find here in central europe. In Germany we have lots of meteorites but most are stony meteorites so they are not so easy to spot.

Travel / Where is good Hotel near Morasko for meteorite collecting? [6]

Indeed looks good.

Life / The climate for gardening in Poland [291]

@jon357

I thik they are resistant to frost but dont carry fruits

Life / The climate for gardening in Poland [291]

They grow in Germany so i suppose they also grow in Poland.

News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

@Vlad1234

Nuclear fission was first done by Otto Hahn in 1938 in Berlin

News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

I always wonder who profits from bringing this **** up again and again?

I mean evryone knows nobody will pay reparations since its impossible. All it creates is hate, anger and more division on both sides.

As for Greeks...Germany held them artificial alive. Meanwhile what good are they for?
They live from EU money, cant protect their borders.

And one thing...when Germany stayed hard in 2014 in Euro crisis...Germany said polish pensioners have much less money than greek pensioners. Yet the Greeks expect to not just get german money but also polish, estonia or slovakia money and demand their own terms? For what?

Germany got much fire for staying hard with the greeks but i think it was right decission.

News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

Fun fact, Fritz Haber also invented chemical fertilizer. Without the "Haber-Verfahren", industrial agriculture would been impossible. Its said, that billions of people would starve withouthis invention.

Beside that, chemical warfare was done before. Even the romans and persians used poison gas.

News / Petition for War Crimes Reparations for Poland [126]

@10iwonka10

I love our history. Germany invented many of teh most important things we have today. Jet engine, space rocket, x-rays, nuclear power, chemical fertilizer just to name a few.

We have a proud history. We destroyed the roman troops when Augustus wanted conquer us and changed the way of history. We pushed the huns out of europe.

Some of the greatest artists are German. Bach, Beethoven, Dürer. Goethe, Schiller. Some of the greatest philosophers like Nietzsche and Kant.

Robert Koch discovered bacteria and this started to progress in healing terrible infections like tuberculosis.

I dont think 12 years of Hitler can undo what thousands of generations of Germans did before.

What i do admitt is that in 2015 a bad mistake was done. Our government failed and i think many Germans feel betrayed. We helped alot of european nations, yet know not a single time others helped us.