News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


It's a pro-Polish agenda. To you it may sound anti-german simply because what's good for the future growth of Poland is usually bad for German interests in Central Europe. But once it's done you will have to deal with it and accept it. Germany is such a pragmatic country after all, right? :-)


Polish companies are doing well on a global market and are not affraid of competition. Unlike some overly socialist states which need to be protect itself with extensive beaurocratic regulations (I'm mostly looking at you France).

And yes, enforcing developing Polish economy to pay the same wages for delegated workforce, as let's say France or Germany does, is a desperate move on Western Europe's side to protect itself from a rising competition.

Such a d*ck move was widely commented in Poland and has proved for many small/middle-sized business in Poland that the EU will bend the rules of free single market in order to criple the competition from less economically developed EU members. The message was clear: in the long run the EU cannot be trusted because it protects interest of an "old" EU members and it is mostly a vehicle for Franco-German interests.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

@Tacitus let me put it this way: it was beneficial at the beginning as a temporary solution after the collapse of PRL state but then Poland hit the ceiling with this new approach. In order to grow stronger and to become one of the leaders, not followers, a new approach was needed.

Germany and Germans cannot understand that because in its arrogance have always underestimated Poland.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

Central Europe being a manufacturing hub producing components for the German industry which benefits the most from selling complete products on global markets certainly is against the interest of an ambitious Poland.

As a proud nation, Poland has rebelled against it and started remodeling it with local econo-political initiatives such as V4 and 3SI. Obviously, Germany will try their best to stop it.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


If any other country in place of Germany would speak German and had German mentality and common history with Poland it would be called Germany like it is now :-)


That's relativism. There are good and bad people. There is good and bad history. There's bad and good behaviour.


I'd say that developing or obtaining a nuclear capability by Poland would add much-needed breathing space in Central Europe.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

@BratwurstBoy, I've nothing against you personally. I could even have a pint with you. The same goes to some other Germans. They may be not my first choice when it comes to socializing, but I wouldn't say no to it.

That doesn't change the fact that on a bigger scale I consider Germany to be the biggest threat to econo-political sovereignty of Poland. Basically, most geopolitical goals of Germany in Central Europe stood, and still stand, against the best interest of Poland. And vice versa.

That doesn't mean that both countries cannot be like those distant neighbors who only say "morning" to each other on their way to work.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

@Tacitus

I think that you confused the title of Marx's book "Das Kapital" with the invention of capitalism :-)

Capitalism is closely tied with the Industrial Revolution and division of labor and with names like Adam Smith and David Hume.

BTW: When I've visited Highgate Cementary I saw many Germans in there on their pilgrimage to Marx. They weren't interested in anything else in there but the tomb of Marx's

Life / What do Poles really think about cats? [470]

A domesticated Ryś [European Lynx] could even protect the house like a dog

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News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

@BratwurstBoy

Ask yourself: who has started the industrial revolution? Who has invented capitalism? Who has built a global empire? Which European country has the most cultural impact in the modern World?

Britain has always punched way above its weight.

Germany has always looked with admiration and envy towards Britain and for a good reason.

I'm not going to hide that I would very much prefer for Poland to follow the British example than German. And fortunately, that's exactly what's going on in modern Poland.

Germany is just not an attractive alternative on many levels.

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Well, Germans are collectivists.

Englishmen, on the other hand can effectively cooperate with each other but also deeply value their individualism.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


C'mon, be realistic. Till then we're all going to die because of coronaflu slash global warming ;-P

Or whatever else mass media will throw at us next, heh

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


Every great enterprise starts as an idea before it materializes in the real world. European integration was nothing but an idea right after World War II.

And 3SI is not only a political idea but first and foremost an economic union of Central Europe and the Balkans. And economic ties are more solid than political declarations.

The transnational expressway Via Carpathia, which will connect Poland with Greek ports through the Balkans is already under construction in most of the involved countries.

Another important is a gas pipe between Poland and a Mediterranean ports in Croatia.

So even if the political views change in the future the infrastructure will remain and solidify the region.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

Well, so far they're doing a quite well job building and maintaining Visegrad 4 and 3 Seas Initiative with Central European countries in cooperation with the US (so Germany cannot torpedo it like an earlier Central European Initiative "Hexagonale" initiative).

OK, I know that such strong ties in Central Europe would not be possible without the help of German "refugee" madness for which I thanked Merkel many times already. She is such a good diplomat: inviting millions of third worlders to Germany and then forcing the rest of Europe to take them in (or else) was a mastercraft of diplomacy.

And let's not forget of Germany's strong fixation with Nord Stream II pipe against the will of Central Europe, The US, and surprisingly even the EU Parliament*

icis.com/explore/resources/news/2020/09/18/10554347/eu-parliament-calls-for-nord-stream-2-halt-more-sanctions

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


I'm all in for maintaining economic exchange in Europe while cutting off political ties and dangerous political dreams about the "European Federation".

Let's deconstruct the EU (except European Single Market) and come back to European Economic Community which was a good idea and helped Europe to grow.

In other words: less political bull*, less federalization and centralization, multikulti, population swap and LGBT agenda and more free-market economic exchange.


The Englishmen, or Brits, have different mentality. Great Britain could, and still can, achieve things which Germany would be never able to achieve.

The difference between Britain and Germany is like between a beef and a pork. Beef just tastes better, smells better and is of superior quality to pork and goes fine with good red wine.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


Yes, diplomacy was never Germany's strong point. Combine this with the strong urge of exporting German values to the East and we've got a problem.

News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]


Well, she is a gentle fuhrer without an army who bullies the other countries with economic advantage. That's better? :-P

BTW. What do you think about this:

"Countries such as Poland and Hungary must be starved financially," said German politician Katarina Barley

polandin.com/50150185/ep-vp-comments-on-poland-hungary-were-shameful-pm-aide

Life / What do Poles really think about cats? [470]

About cats we have fluffy thoughts only

Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

Why don't you ask Black Lives Matter activists :-)

Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

@mafketis Aleksandra Szwed, Omenaah Mensah or Krystian Legierski are not "murzyn" but "mulatto" just like Barack Obama who btw. was raised solely by his white mother of English descent.

Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]

@cms neuf

I wouldn't know since I never claimed any government aid or handout. I don't support this form of government "help" which is financed directly from taxpayers wallets since the government doesn't produce any value just spending our money, usually in the least efficient way.

That said there are differences between permanently unemployed black communities who are for generations solely dependant on the state wellfare checks in the US and child benefits paid to a regular working, tax paying families in Poland.

I stand on a position that instead of paying child benefits the income tax should be reduced by the same, or greater, amount for all of the citizens.

This would not only save money and reduce beaurocracy but it would also serve a great educational and social effect by reducing financial punishment (income tax) for productive work.

And also a reduce a number of unproductive baurocrats who would be reclaimed by the economy and would have to find some decent value producing jobs for a change.

Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]


Ah, a famous term coined by our "loving European [step]Brothers from Germany" and mostly perpetuated by them in the US :-)

I wouldn't be offended by that label. If I lived in the US I would even refer to myself as 'Pollack'. The goal here is not to remove or ban a label but to transform its meaning into a more attractive one so its more negative original meaning doesn't stick.

Irish people, for example, were hated and despised by the English throughout their history. And now Ireland is better off than England and ROI is synonymous with a great economic success. And I don't hear anyone calling them dumb or poor here in the UK.

Labels evolve and change. Something derogatory in the past may become neutral or positive in the future (and vice versa). And Poland and Poles have a solid brand based on our history and present talents. It just needs more advertising.

Language / IS "MURZYN" word RACIST? [686]


That's not the root of the problem.

Negative connotations come from social interactions and personal experiences.

If, for example, we would replace the word "Gypsy" with "Romani" and they will keep on going with their regular lifestyle ie. stealing, begging, and generally avoiding employment at all cost and living in filthy environments then the word Romani will pretty soon have same negative connotations as Gypsy.

Same with the word "Nigg3r". You can call them "Afro-American" all you want but as long as they live off the state handouts, engage in crime, and fill up prisons it will still have negative connotations.

PS: The word "Nigg3r" was the first and only ever censored word here on PFs

History / Battle of Vienna - history movie about Poland / Commemoration [36]

I'll leave those disputes for historians.

What's important is to teach the nation to celebrate the historical victories first and foremost. And I'm talking about actual victories instead of "moral" victories (read: defeats).

These should be only a source of a valuable lessons about what's went wrong and how to avoid it in the future and not be celebrated as a "moral victory" for losers.

More Battle of Vienna, Greater Poland Uprising, Battle of Warsaw, Grunwald/Tannenberg 1410 celebrations and less XIX century failed uprisings and so on.

History / Battle of Vienna - history movie about Poland / Commemoration [36]

Those who didn't sleep on history lessons and finished elementary school do remember :-)
One of the most important victories in the history of Europe.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

Like there wouldn't be enough young Ukrainian girls in Poland already ;-)

Food / What Polish foods and brands do you miss when you go to other countries? [216]

Kielbasa Mysliwska [Hunter's Sausage]. That's what I miss the most

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News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


With an enclave, not with mainland Russia.


Or maybe he was never pushed enough to show his erratic behaviour


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis

Obviously these days this hypothesis will be heavily attacked (or ignored if possible). The official progressive propaganda shouts about "diversity" but in fact what they want to achieve is "uniformity"

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


I believe that they can serve a similar purpose as Jobbik serves to Fidesz in Hungary: to keep the ruling party real and not too centrist.

And I wouldn't worry that they would get eaten by PiS. A hell would freeze before people like Janusz Korwin-Mikke or Grzegorz Braun would swap their political sides.


To be precise he claims that women are more even than men in a sense that there's less geniuses and less morons amoung them and plenty of those in between.

And the population of men is more extreme: there are more geniuses and more retards among them. And if you check the IQ stats he is right about that.

Back on topic:

Lukaszenko seems to be ready for therevolution ;-). He is a nutcase, and yet for decades he guaranteed that Russian border was 500km east from Poland and not directly on Bug river.

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News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Yes, but back then it was still very limited to those who could afford very expensive equipment and a team of engineers to put it together and to maintain it. And if he wanted to broadcast had to apply for permissions, a license (it was more strictly controlled by bureaucrats) and so on.

Nowadays, the access to creation of information (not only consumtion) by common folks is much wider than ever before.

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]


Each separate channel and platform of interaction engages a small dedicated minority.

Mainstream media manage to reach most but fails to engage the masses at the same level. Mainsteam media can enforce their narrative as the only "valid" narrative only when they've got a total monopoly on news. The internet has changed everything.

One simple example: Konfederacja would stand a slim chance to get to parliament without the internet, with all the mainstream media being hostile/ignoring it.

And I know how dedicated are those supporters since I've been actively engaged in it and I could take a peek behind the curtain as a co-creator of one of them. Those niche news portals which you downplayed and contributed to Konfederacja's results in parliamentary elections.