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SeanBM   
27 Jan 2011
News / Poland's trafficking problem and prostitution [33]

I believe this is a very real problem in Poland and in some other countries.

I drive through a forest with prostitutes in them when the weather is not too cold.
It is very unsafe, there are no washing facilities, no protection from whackos or anything.

This is the main reason why I believe that prostitution should be legalised, it would be safer for everyone.

They could have sexual transmitted disease tests, washing facilities, protection from violence, pay taxes and have a pension etc...
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Ok, each to their own I suppose.
I wouldn't, because doing so would make the Church look petty and foolish because it is such a trivial opinion.
Silly? Isn't she in menca?
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

I have read the comment, and how can it possibly NOT be interpreted as slanderous?

Simple, would you have charged Doda with the crime of "offending religious sensibilities" for the remark?

for me, the celts may have passed through Poland, but i refuse to believe the Poles and Irish are related.

Passed through?
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Since when was Doda a journalist?

I wrote "What about expressing blasphemous opinions like Doda is being charged with?" as in similar too. I did not say Doda was a journalist, have you seen her?

Her comments could quite easily be interpreted as malicious slander?

I have also posted her comment and you would need a wacky imagination to see that as slander.

Here, I will post it again, my problem is I am just too nice on these forums :)

In May 2010, the Warsaw prosecutor's office charged Doda with the crime of "offending religious sensibilities" for remarking in a year-ago television interview that she believed more in dinosaurs than she did in the Bible because "it is hard to believe in something written by people who drank too much wine and smoked herbal cigarettes."[5] If convicted, she faces up to two years in prison under Poland's blasphemy laws.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doda_%28singer%29#Blasphemy_charges]
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

I guess you SeanBM also have no idea what those restrictions of the freedom of press in Ireland could be?

Oh no, I have no idea what these statistics were made from, I already said that.

I am just shocked with the Doda charges, that's all.

Just something of interest while we are on the subject:

Poland and Lithuania

Freedom of Press laws are first passed in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth in 1532.[13]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_the_press#Poland_and_Lithuania

and something else:

The report is based on a questionnaire [1] sent to partner organizations of Reporters Without Borders (14 freedom of expression groups in five continents) and its 130 correspondents around the world, as well as to journalists, researchers, jurists and human rights activists.[2]

The survey asks questions about direct attacks on journalists and the media as well as other indirect sources of pressure against the free press. Reporters Without Borders is careful to note that the index only deals with press freedom, and does not measure the quality of journalism

/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

There is nothing the Irish media can print that the Polish media cannot.

What about expressing blasphemous opinions like Doda is being charged with?
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

But you wrote that Ireland has a blasphemy law too? Yet it's higher on the ranking. So I guess there must be something more?

Yes there is a law in Ireland but I doubt if anyone could ever get in to trouble for it.
I am sure, knowing Irish people, someone has tried and failed.
it would be considered too stupid to actually use such a law, it might exist but to put it in practise would be the joke of the century.
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Well if you can't express such a simple opinion, it kinda puts it into perspective.
That'd be laughed at if it had happened in today's Ireland.

Although 'The life of Brian' by Monthy Python was banned in Ireland for being blasphemous years ago.

:)

youtube.com/watch?v=kqilW8OpeGc
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

And I see pûrn in every petrol station, little shop and on TV here in Poland.
I have never seen that in Ireland, certainly not when I was a kid, maybe the very odd pair of boobs on some boring French film that the censors had fallen asleep to, and they are worried about the sexual language of father Ted?

*note
I mean ''odd'' as in ''rare pair of boobs'' not that the boobs themselves were odd :)
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

mocking religion like Doda did.

Holy moly!

In May 2010, the Warsaw prosecutor's office charged Doda with the crime of "offending religious sensibilities" for remarking in a year-ago television interview that she believed more in dinosaurs than she did in the Bible because "it is hard to believe in something written by people who drank too much wine and smoked herbal cigarettes."[5] If convicted, she faces up to two years in prison under Poland's blasphemy laws.

Wiki
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

I wonder if a Polish comedian could do a programme like Father Ted

Hmmmm..... That's an interesting thought.
I have shown Polish people Father ted and they love it, I mean really fell in love with it :)

Obviously I don't know the processes at work or how they work but the rankings exist for a reason. The press is more restricted in some shape or form in Poland than it is in Ireland - unless you have reason not to believe the ranking that is.

Fair enough, I don't know, I tend to trust statistics less and less, numbers are just too easily manipulated to suit the person putting them together ir more times than that simply misinterpreted.
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

In Ireland, maybe they can say X, Y & Z, in Poland maybe just Y & Z.

Perhaps you could give us an example?

I am not entirely sure where you got that idea from.

You could be right, I really don't know, I have a feeling you might not be, purely becuase of Poland throwing off the shackles of communism i.e. censorship but I don't know.
SeanBM   
16 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

My father's family immigrated to the US from Ireland and my mother's family from Poland.

When I first came to Poland, I worked with a lady who was studying American Culture, she told me that Poles married more Irish in America than any other nationality (except Poles of course).

I find that easy to believe.
SeanBM   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Ah c'mon

It's not just about that, it is a show of strength by the church, that when all the curruption came out about the church a Blesphamy law gets passed.

Whereas in Poland, theorectically, church and state are separate but in practice the church has a disproportionate amount of power and influence?

I can't think of any influence the government has from the church here unlike Ireland's long history.
SeanBM   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Oh I know. It's a joke. But in reality, what will happen?

Now Pakistan and a group of Islamic states (the Organization of Islamic Conference, or "OIC") is using the language of the Irish blasphemy law to press the UN Ad Hoc Committee on the Elaboration of Complementary Standards to recognize the so-called "defamation of religions" as a new normative principle of international law.

centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/pakistan_pushes_irish_blasphemy_law_language_at_the_un

to be a godparent in a church

I get what you mean, but in church a godparent is supposed to look after the child's spiritual life, it makes sense that a church would want new members whereas I am talking about the church making civil laws.

I am not saying that Poland is a very liberal country and you have some good points, Poland is more conservative than Ireland on certain issues, I just like the church being out of parliament.

I think part of the difference is, the church ruled Ireland, it was absolutely powerful and therefore corrupt even during the occupation, whereas the church in Poland was a passive resistant freedom against communism, priest were killed and spoke for the people that was their power.
SeanBM   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Is any catholic country really much different?

As regards to separation between church and state, I think so, also it was the church that educated Ireland, for the most part.

e.g. in a supposedly traditional/conservative country we had female presidents, openly gay politicians etc

Communism didn't persecute women as much as Ireland did, they were part of the work force here. So there has been no real sexual revolution here the way it is in Ireland.

I would like to stress my use of the words "as much", women here are still paid less and hold lower positions of power but lets face it, an Irish president is more like a diplomat, she doesn't hold any real power, ok to veto but has she ever used it?

You have a point with gay politicians here though, I can't see it being so widely excepted here for a long time yet.

wasn't there something recently about bishops attempting to influence national governement?

Attempting to influence is a far stretch from Ireland's Government letting the church deal with the sexual assault allegations by themselves.

According to the Poles I know, outside of the cities, in Poland the local priest is still a quite powerful figure and regularly "meddles" in local politics, family life etc.

You bet, the sheer attendance rate here has a substantial effect on people, I just find now, Irish people more conservative.

This attitude would be in direct contrast to the majority of Irish people I know.

But the church can introduce a Blasphemy law in ireland, without protest.

youtube.com/watch?v=UbqR5XCRPeU
SeanBM   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Wow - I'm surprised at that. Depends on the region though I suppose.

The thing about the cross in front of the parliament here and the general media coverage of religious issues are a minority. Most Poles are Catholic but see a separation between church and state, that's what got the cross here so much attention and then the media spin did the rest.

But how religion is above the law in Ireland does not exist here, at least not to my knowledge.
And people's general attitude here is less conservative, I remember the outrage when the Virgin mega store sold condoms, when there was outrage over an AIDs information advertisement, divorce was illegal, Monthy Python's 'life of Brian' was banned in Ireland for years, for no pûrn in Ireland and this continues in a million different nuances till this day, Catholic schools (what % are anything else?), uniforms, the Church wanting to "deal with the sexual assault charges themselves". I am not saying anything about the strength of people's religious beliefs just that Ireland did not and still doesn't truly separate church from state.
SeanBM   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

Good point, I would like to add something to it:

Ireland was ruled by the church, like Poland it was galvanised simply by not being part of the occupational entity but there is and was a separation of church and state in Poland that is really only starting in the last 25 years in Ireland (and that might be even pushing it).

What doesn't help is Ireland making a new blasphemy law last year amid sexual misconduct accusations within the church and the church telling people they will ''deal with it'', as if they are above the law.

Now when I return to Ireland, I find people generally more conservative than Poles.
These days more people attend mass in Poland than Ireland but the centuries have had a lasting effect.
SeanBM   
13 Jan 2011
UK, Ireland / Polish and Irish people are related? [137]

does anyone agree that these people are dna related?

Although I do not agree with your DNA theory, I myself am Irish and live in Poland.

You may find this thread interesting: The Celts in Poland.

literature, music, church, and are tops when it comes to horses and alcohol.

A few things in Irish/Polish history have made us very similar, in my opinion.
Being underdogs and having had a rough history, coupled along with Catholicism, has made us more similar in many ways, sense of humour, sense of right and wrong, guilt and perspective.

The number one difference between Ireland and Poland is that Poland experienced communism, which has had a great effect here.
SeanBM   
27 Dec 2010
History / Poland in a Slavic Union/Alliance/Federation? [335]

aewfawefd

Just looking at the map there, Russia is incredibly big, it makes it look like any Slavic union would be 'those little countries' joining Mother Russia.

The Slavic Union (Russian: Славянский союз) (SS) is a Russian far right national socialistic movement, which aims at the creation of Russian national state.[1] The Slavic Union is the most active ultranationalist political association in Russia.

The group's website, in Russian, links to extensive material on Holocaust denial[3] and to works by Adolf Hitler. Its organizational logo is a stylized swastika and the group's initials, "SS" in Russian, are the same as those used by the German Schutzstaffel and its secret intelligence service, the Gestapo (Geheime Stadtpolizei, Secret Policeforce), during World War II.[2]

The Slavic Union was banned by the Moscow City Court on April 27, 2010 following charges by prosecutors that the group promoted a national supremacist ideology similar to that of Nazi Germany.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_Union

I think an economic Slavic Union based on business would be beneficial but not an ethnic one.

the world where people from different
countries speak only English to one another and, frankly, it makes me sick.

There is an irony in this from you, you are on an English language forum at gun point then, are you? I hope at least you have a bucket beside you at all times :)

There is such risk.

There must be many organisations in the U.S. for example, where people of Slavic countries come together to show off traditional dance, eat traditional foods (I see Slavic countries have many similar dishes) and other such none intrusive or dominant collaborations, this is a start rather than jump in to a complete Union.

Although last time I was with a group of Russians and a Pole, it seemed to me that the Russians spent the greater part of the night telling the Pole (who didn't care) how great Russia was, even though there were people from five other nations.

It struck me as insecure but of course I won't judge a whole country on a few people over the course of one night.

Must stop typing, must go back to work...
SeanBM   
15 Dec 2010
History / Old Polish Flag [17]

Hello polskatage,

And welcome to the Polish forums.

Perhaps you could post a photo looking directly at the flag, for more detail?

What makes you think it comes from 1850s?

One detail that I have never seen before is that the eagle is facing right (looking at his left wing).

I remember hearing that the eagle in the Oval Office at the White House faces right in times of peace and left in times of war (or is it the other way around).

From this thread:
Polish eagle - which way the head faces?

I don't know about that but there could be something in it?
SeanBM   
3 Dec 2010
Love / 20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy! [241]

Can we now discuss the reason as to why so many adults are still single and jobless without blaming everything on them?

You seem to be thinking that I said that adults who are single and jobless is because of their own fault.
I never said that but you are saying it is not that, I find it strange.
I have been unemployed before, not because of my own fault but due to circumstances.

Without going personal?

I don't know where you are pulling the personal stuff from, I hit a nerve, I didn't mean to, you took it personally but that was not the way it was intended and if you read back through this, you will see what I mean.

Because someone else points the finger at the younger generation!

Not me.

it's not the younger generation who caused this financial crisis!

So you choose to blame employers, is it their fault then?

pointing out a fact is something else than pointing a finger.

You were pointing fingers.

That's pretty vague.

It's enough for our discussion.

I'm doing VWO, which is the Dutch equivalent for a pre-university education, which will allow me to study Psychology later on. (In 2012.)

Good for you.
SeanBM   
3 Dec 2010
Love / 20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy! [241]

Alzheimer?

What are you talking about? You have never confided in me, I know little to nothing about you.
I simply don't know.
I do however see you pointing fingers, saying "they" should do that or this, so I asked you what are you doing about it? which you translated to me knowing everything about you and attacking you, well I am not.

You're the one who's still replying.

Because you misunderstood me

I'm studying Sean. (I'm 100% sure I've told you that before.)

100% never heard that before.

Hey, you're the one who's still replying with personal stuff, instead of discussing the topic at hand. (And I'm not sorry to respond in the same manner!) So, to reverse your question: What are *you* doing about it?

Now you are talking rubbish, I am not the one pointing fingers, I am not the one complaining, you are.
But even still I will answer you, I employ people here.

Out of curiosity, what are you studying?
SeanBM   
3 Dec 2010
Love / 20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy! [241]

You were insinuating just that with your question, wether you realise it or not. What else does that question insinuate then, according to you? Because you already knew the answer to that question.

I was not insinuating anything I asked a very direct question.
and how the heck would I know the answer? I don't obviously, I don't know why you have a bee up your arse.

I've already answered that question a couple of times, so you know exactly what I'm doing about that. (So why ask?) Just admit it, you just

I have no idea what you are talking about.
Attack mode? I obviously hit a nerve, I didn't mean to but that's life.
SeanBM   
2 Dec 2010
Love / 20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy! [241]

Now, am I ridiculing you whenever you have some serious problems to deal with? I don't think so Jack.

Get a grip you paranoid fool.
I asked you a question, if you don't want to answer it, fine but don't go all arsy.
SeanBM   
2 Dec 2010
Love / 20% of adult Poles are single and live with Mummy! [241]

People want to move out from parents but they can't.

A kind of embarrassing but somehow funny situation recently, I let out a friend's apartment in Krakow recently. A nice young 20ish couple who were living with her parents.

They could not wait to leave, they moved in and painted the walls themselves, just to get out of the family house.
I say it was a funny situation because the way the guy explained his desperate circumstance to me.

Minimum wage is €317.58 per month here in Poland. Houses usually have three or four generations in them, all doing their bit and helping out because life on minimum wage here is tough.