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27 Mar 2020
Genealogy / Was name `Szczerbin` first and original Polish ethnic name, local version of Sarmatian name ? [11]
Deeper insight into history of Europe. Some thoughts...
Spali, Spalaei, Spalaei, Palaei - names of one and same people. Corrupted name of Serbs by Pliny (fl. 77-79).
Spalaei/Palaei/Pali - corrupted by Diodorus (2, 43). Even point at them as ancestral people (Royal Scythians) of all Scythians. This remind me of Polish legneds of Sarmatian origin.
Polish Tadeusz Sulimirski connects all these records with Sarmatian Roxolani. Spalirisos, Spalyris, Spalahora, and the Slavic word ispolin, spolin (`giant`). Sulmirski also thinks that other Slavs considered Serbs as overlords, ancestral people of their origin. Francis Dvornik says that Sporoi mentioned by Procopius (around 500 AD) aree old name of the Antes and that Sclaveni were probably the those Spali mentioned by Jordanes (fl. 551) and Spalei mentioned by Pliny.
Having this in mind and in context of this thread, where we, among else, try to analyze all local native versions of Serbian (Sarmatian) name.
So, on the first glance, in my opinion on the base of data and linguistic logic these names are native versions of Serbian name > spot how is line of original Serbian name preserved on the Balkan-Baltic line, first backbone of Europeans on this continent (in slow migration along the Danube river), after Europe was re-populated when Ice age was over.
* SWEDI
* SWABI
* SUEBI
(in Serbian sound - Shvabi) - Here we don`t have foreign corruption but linguistic evolution where we have that phenomenon where B moving to V or symple gradual softening of original (from all Europeans and Slavs only Balkan Serbs preserved ``R`` as vocal, being located in the ancient core of West/Ice age refugium where civilization never ended in last 70.000 years, on Balkan and language retained its primal originality). SRBI > SRVI. Serbs from Balkan, Lusatia and Kashupi would tell Srbin, Syarbin or Sorbin. See, you have that gradual softening. But Polish will tell Szczerb (in Serbian that sound SH).
Corrupted versions of Serbian (ie Sarmatian) name are for sure these remnants >
* SPAIN, SPANIARDS (in Serbian sound - Shpania)
* PORTUGAL (same as Spalei > Palei)
* SPARTA
* SPARTACUS
Among else, we now know more of European history. We see and learning that when we speak of slave rebellion of Spartacus against Romans, we actually speak about `Rebellion of Serbs led by Serbian`. So, Sarmatian rebellion that were at the same time slaves of Rome, while Sarmatian elite was in symbiotic relationship with Rome. For example, we know that Spartacus who led rebellion of slaves was directly from Thracia, Thracian (and it is dual designation for Sarmatians same as Serbian state even today have two names, Srbija i Rashka > Racowie > Th-racowia = Thracia). In all Roman records name of Triballi (biggest Thracian tribe) is exonym of Serbs. Duka (of Byzant) directly write, even in middle ages, write how Turks moved against Triballi and clashed with them on Kosovo (Kosovo battle - Serbs vs Turks) and speaks of Lazarus of Triballi (at that time Serbian King Lazar). Also, more Roman Emperors (Western and Eastern) were of Sarmatian then of Latin origin.
Deeper insight into history of Europe. Some thoughts...
Spali, Spalaei, Spalaei, Palaei - names of one and same people. Corrupted name of Serbs by Pliny (fl. 77-79).
Spalaei/Palaei/Pali - corrupted by Diodorus (2, 43). Even point at them as ancestral people (Royal Scythians) of all Scythians. This remind me of Polish legneds of Sarmatian origin.
Polish Tadeusz Sulimirski connects all these records with Sarmatian Roxolani. Spalirisos, Spalyris, Spalahora, and the Slavic word ispolin, spolin (`giant`). Sulmirski also thinks that other Slavs considered Serbs as overlords, ancestral people of their origin. Francis Dvornik says that Sporoi mentioned by Procopius (around 500 AD) aree old name of the Antes and that Sclaveni were probably the those Spali mentioned by Jordanes (fl. 551) and Spalei mentioned by Pliny.
Having this in mind and in context of this thread, where we, among else, try to analyze all local native versions of Serbian (Sarmatian) name.
So, on the first glance, in my opinion on the base of data and linguistic logic these names are native versions of Serbian name > spot how is line of original Serbian name preserved on the Balkan-Baltic line, first backbone of Europeans on this continent (in slow migration along the Danube river), after Europe was re-populated when Ice age was over.
* SWEDI
* SWABI
* SUEBI
(in Serbian sound - Shvabi) - Here we don`t have foreign corruption but linguistic evolution where we have that phenomenon where B moving to V or symple gradual softening of original (from all Europeans and Slavs only Balkan Serbs preserved ``R`` as vocal, being located in the ancient core of West/Ice age refugium where civilization never ended in last 70.000 years, on Balkan and language retained its primal originality). SRBI > SRVI. Serbs from Balkan, Lusatia and Kashupi would tell Srbin, Syarbin or Sorbin. See, you have that gradual softening. But Polish will tell Szczerb (in Serbian that sound SH).
Corrupted versions of Serbian (ie Sarmatian) name are for sure these remnants >
* SPAIN, SPANIARDS (in Serbian sound - Shpania)
* PORTUGAL (same as Spalei > Palei)
* SPARTA
* SPARTACUS
Among else, we now know more of European history. We see and learning that when we speak of slave rebellion of Spartacus against Romans, we actually speak about `Rebellion of Serbs led by Serbian`. So, Sarmatian rebellion that were at the same time slaves of Rome, while Sarmatian elite was in symbiotic relationship with Rome. For example, we know that Spartacus who led rebellion of slaves was directly from Thracia, Thracian (and it is dual designation for Sarmatians same as Serbian state even today have two names, Srbija i Rashka > Racowie > Th-racowia = Thracia). In all Roman records name of Triballi (biggest Thracian tribe) is exonym of Serbs. Duka (of Byzant) directly write, even in middle ages, write how Turks moved against Triballi and clashed with them on Kosovo (Kosovo battle - Serbs vs Turks) and speaks of Lazarus of Triballi (at that time Serbian King Lazar). Also, more Roman Emperors (Western and Eastern) were of Sarmatian then of Latin origin.