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Joined: 2 Dec 2023 / Male ♂ 		Last Post: 7 hrs ago
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Torq   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

Anyways, Rich, read the opening post again and the article linked. Braun said that he was stopping "the act of wild, talmudic cult", so he kinda admitted himself to disturbing religious activity. :)

I suppose that's why idiots commiting crimes have the right to remain silent afterwards - not to incriminate themselves. Braun chose not to exercise this right. :)
Torq   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

There was no religious activity.

Lighting hanukkah candles is most definitely a religious activity, and the ceremony was just taking place - the Klezmer band was still playing, for f*ck sakes, and there were people from the Jewish relgious commune still present there (the woman who tried to stop Braun was one of them).
Torq   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

So crime did he commit?

Well, spraying somebody's face with a fire extinguisher is definitely assault. Putting down the candles during a religious ceremony is also a criminal offence under Polish law (which protects acts of religious cult). Straight from Polish Policja website...

"Przeszkadzanie publicznemu wykonywaniu aktu religijnego lub obrzędom żałobnym (art. 195) § 1. Kto złośliwie przeszkadza publicznemu wykonywaniu aktu religijnego kościoła lub innego związku wyznaniowego o uregulowanej sytuacji prawnej, podlega grzywnie, karze ograniczenia wolności albo pozbawienia wolności do lat 2."

statystyka.policja.pl/st/kodeks-karny/przestepstwa-przeciwko-5/63491,Przeszkadzanie-publicznemu-wykonywaniu-aktu-religijnego-lub-obrzedom-zalobnym-ar.html

... so, yes it looks like he commited an act of crime but more importantly he commited an act of complete and utter twattiness.
Torq   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

niem. debiler Mensch

Polish language contains a lot of germanisms. There's about 2500 German loanwords in Polish listed in the dictionary below...

ksiegarnia.pwn.pl/Slownik-zapozyczen-niemieckich-w-polszczyznie,68423480,p.html

... and here's a list at the Oldenburg University site...

diglib.bis.uni-oldenburg.de/bis-verlag/wdlp/ab_H.html

There's surprisingly many of them, considering the fact that the languages are so different and the peoples were not exactly friendly towards each other throughout history.
Torq   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

maybe he was paid by RuSSia to do this o_O

I doubt it.

Imagine the scene...

"Russian intelligence officer: Gospodin Braun, here's one twatillion rubles. Now, go and put down Hanukkah candles in Knesejm (as some vicious people call it).

Braun: No problem, boss. Should I also assault a female Jewish doctor in the process?

RIO: Yes, please. That will help our war effort immensely, and you will be given another c*ntillion rubles for that.

Braun: Sweet. I'm on it."

... it just doesn't make sense.

We are looking for something deeper in this whilst the whole story is simply about Braun being an attention seeking twat. Nothing more to it. Only this time he took his antics a bit too far and opened himself to legal action. Serves him well.
Torq   
13 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

removed Christmas tree and gifts that owner of local floral business installed near entry of kindergarten in Germany

About Germany you should ask either BB or Tacitus, I am not a specialist on German matters.

The demand to remove a nativity scene or a Christmas tree in Poland would be very unlikely to succeed.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [455]

Tusk mentioned in his inaugural speech that he won't break any military contracts that PiS made, all the purchases will be realised, all the obligations and contracts will be respected...

onet.pl/biznes/biznesalert/tusk-w-expose-zapowiada-ze-nie-zerwie-umow-na-wojskowy-sprzet/l7rys6d,30bc1058

... +1 for Tusk. Strengthening the Army should be above any political conflicts.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

...thanks for checking!

Not at all. :)

Polish Sejm is a veritable menagerie of oddities. The fact that this country is still working with such geniuses at helm is a proof of God's existence.

Tusk

... and I don't envy this guy's job. He will have a lot of mess to clean in the coming years.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

please don't tell me he has german heritage...

*goes checking*

Hmm... a very decent, patriotic family it seems:

...son of Kazimierz Braun, a respected film director...

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazimierz_Braun_(re%C5%BCyser)

... grandson of Julisz Braun, a lawyer...

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliusz_Braun_(prawnik)

... great-grandson of Karol Braun, the president of "Sokół" gymnastic association in Dąbrowa Tarnowska...

geni.com/people/Karol-Braun/6000000024321473949

... great-great-grandson of Józef Braun from Tarnów.

Couldn't be arsed digging deeper. The guy is as Polish as it gets at least 4 generations back. You can breathe a sigh of relief, BB. ;)
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

What exactly did he mean with that?

Beats me.

He sprayed a bystander trying to stop him in the face...

She wasn't just a bystander but a Jewish doctor, Magdalena Gudzińska-Adamczyk, who tried to stop Braun from desecrating a relgious symbol that is important to her...

onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/grzegorz-braun-zaatakowal-ja-gasnica-prysnal-mi-w-twarz/2txd99s,79cfc278

... it is so absurd that one is tempted to make a joke or two about it, but at the end of the day it was a lamentable incident and Braun should be punished for his idiocy.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]

It is a vomit-inducing place

it gives mere stomach cramps

Yet, gentlemen, you are both still here. And you will be.

I tried to leave, as PF puts too much strain on my weak nerves sometimes, but failed miserably. This place is a trap.

That's why I worry about Crow - he couldn't have left just like that, something must have happened.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

Why should there be Hanukkah candles in the Sejm?

Well, Jewish culture and religion is a part of the Holiest Rzeczpospolita tradition and the Third Rzeczpospolita considers herself a rightful heir of this highest culmination of human civilisation.

is not Poland the Maiden of Christ?

She is indeed. She is also, simultaneously, the Christ of Nations, which to an untrained mind might introduce some difficulties of theological nature.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
History / Poland must get back Lwow, Wilno and Brest back [345]

wether I would be a hero of Russia or Poland is of little difference as it would be first step towards a United slavdom that would simultaneously unite the churches!

Moderators - I would like to bring to your attention the fact that Crow has just hacked Gruni's account.
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Grzegorz Braun extinguishes Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament [459]

The notorious Konfederacja MP, Grzegorz Braun, used a fire extinguisher today to put down Hanukkah candles in Polish Parliament...

... the incident caused understandable uproar, especially after Braun said: "there can be no place for acts of tribal, wild, talmudic cult on the premises of Sejm", he also added that he was "restoring normality to Sejm by stopping the acts of satanic, racist triumphalism", and he called other members of parliament to a theological debate.

rp.pl/polityka/art39556401-grzegorz-braun-uzyl-w-sejmie-gasnicy-zgasil-swiece-na-menorze-chanukowej

In what other parliament than Polish could this be possible? No wonder Sejm's YT channel is watched by millions of people (yesterday's transmission had 4.1 million views). :)
Torq   
12 Dec 2023
News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [455]

Let's rejoice indeed. But also let's keep this thread open and watch the developments in Polish politics in the NTE (New Tusk Era). :)

Especially in regards with...

- health
- education
- armed forces
- unemployment and wages
- taxes
- GDP
- infrastructural investments (maybe apart from second-hand wind turbines :D)

Pawian, as a Tusk enthusiast, can list all the new government's successes here. I, on the other hand, will take upon myself the sad duty of listing all the failures.

Should be fun :)
Torq   
10 Dec 2023
News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [363]

Your analysis would seem to entail a certain measure of oversimplification, to put it mildly. There was more to it than just PO's reluctance to be more leftist and spend some money on social programs. The contempt towards ordinary people is what brought their downfall, and even people from their own camp admit that...

wydarzenia.interia.pl/kraj/news-marcin-matczak-o-dzialaniach-opozycji-pis-szybko-wroci,nId,7200995
Torq   
10 Dec 2023
News / Ups and downs of the democratic government 2023-2027 in Poland [363]

They did ???? Incredible

Well, there was a reason why they alienated half of Poland and paved the way to power for Kaczynski and PiS.

Luckily, as you said, they have some reasonable coalition partners these days to control them.
Torq   
10 Dec 2023
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

one of the nicest things about a whole freshly killed sheep is eating the liver and lungs raw while the rest is being cooked

*smiles with approval*

I must say that I am surprised but also delighted by this newly found respect for our British friends and allies. It might be a good idea to join our inventions and eat raw sheep liver and lungs, generously covered with melted lard with the addition of a week-old bigos and washed down with first-class potato vodka. Long live the Polish-British alliance!
Torq   
10 Dec 2023
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

You've probably never eaten a whole sheep, have you...

I've eaten a whole wild boar though. Baked in bread dough in a huge bread furnace and then kept warm over a fire. De-li-cious!

But fair enough, perhaps I underestimated British eating powers. :)
Torq   
10 Dec 2023
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

We Brits can eat twice the amount you could ever dream of.

I doubt it.

I can eat smalec by kilograms, drink a litre of vodka to burn it faster and then eat a kilogram of it again. All that preferably at 10 p.m. so that I have nice dreams at night. When I wake up, I take a healthy 100 grams of vodka on an empty stomach and eat kaszanka with some last week's bigos leftovers. Bigos contains cabbage, so I consider it a vegetarian diet.

Beat that, you British lightweight.