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pawian   
25 Jul 2019
Language / Puns and language games in Polish adverts [33]

Patriotic shopping slogan: Don`t let them coo you! Buy from compatriots!

Gruchać/Coo was used as cheat, dupe, trick. It is a parody of a similar Polish word which is too slangishly vulgar.


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pawian   
25 Jul 2019
Language / Busha and JaJa [140]

This Bushia word always amazes me when I see it. Poles in Poland don`t use it. So where does it come from? Shorter version of Babusia? But even Babusia is unusual, at least in the area where I come from. Babcia, babunia are standard words. . In a kid book decades ago I read Bunia.

Doesn`t it come from Russian babushka - an old woman/ granny?
pawian   
25 Jul 2019
Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

Yes, Marta from Train, a psychological film with great actors, the one from the so called Polish film school.
As for the new one, it looks like a new film again, and a problem repeats - I don`t know this actor.
pawian   
25 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

I had the pleasure of meeting a former worker there who had been working as a programmer

Did you by any chance also meet the inventor of lasers which were used in medicine and industry since 1960s? They were very modern inventions at the time, attracted attention of Western buyers too. His name was Zbigniew Puzewicz. E.g., the first eye operation with laser technology was conducted in Poland.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Puzewicz

Unfortunately, those dim lights in the tunnel weren`t enough to make Polish economy thrive.

The same with other goods. I mentioned cars - licenses since 1960s.

Sorry, car licenses since 1950s - the first one was Soviet Pobeda, in Poland called Warszawa. Soon most Warszawa`s mechanisms were used to design the first Polish van - Beetle. Great - no license necessary! Unfortunately, its greatest and probably the only assets were multiple versions and affordable price compared to imported vans. They were produced for 39 years with slight modifications. However, don`t expect any gigantic amounts - only 600.000 were made. Some exported to communist countries. And assembled in Egypt.

Such was communist innovative and efficient economy in most industry branches in Poland. I think it is time to finish off this myth.

Read the history of Beetle
auto-swiat.pl/klasyki/oldtimer/60-urodziny-zuka/jzmwvfz#slajd-1


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pawian   
25 Jul 2019
Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

he's more intense instinct rather than charm, almost a Polish James Dean, a sort of Rebel

He`s certainly a very good actor but not as charismatic as Zbigniew Cybulski who already became a legend when still alive. Simply speaking, Stuhr is only one of a few dozen popular actors, he is still too young to be a legend like his father, Jerzy Stuhr.

What film is it?


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pawian   
25 Jul 2019
USA, Canada / Historic(al) Americans and their ties with Poland/Poles [78]

If the photo's of a Mafioso, I'm stumped, sorry!

This was the Polish Am gangster who terrorised Al Capone to such an extent that the latter ordered an armoured car.

It`s Henryk Wojciechowski aka Hymie Weiss.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymie_Weiss

He even attended synagogue in a swanky Miami Beach temple

Hymie was religious too.

He was nicknamed "Hymie" and "Hymie the Pole",[2] later in his career. He was Catholic, despite the "Jewish-sounding" moniker (he carried a rosary and a bible).[3]

Who is she?


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pawian   
24 Jul 2019
USA, Canada / Historic(al) Americans and their ties with Poland/Poles [78]

Dutch Schulz (nee Arthur Flegenheimer

Sorry, no. Dutch Schulz had a slightly bigger nose and wasn`t as handsome as the one in my photo. But you are close with that mobster.

The US had plenty of Jewish gangster types.

Yes, of course. I think I watched that film in 1980s. Once Upon a Time in America.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

it worked fine for a week or so and then the tuning mechanism broke,

Of course, there were some highlights too. Polish electronics had its great days when Polish engineers developed a series of their computers ODRA in 1960s and 70s. They were good quality and some of them were still used by various institutions in 21st century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odra_(computer)
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

The Promised Land by Wajda, about 3 businessmen from Łódź of 19th century : a Pole, German and Jew. Charles, Max, Moritz. My fav book by Reymont, read it a few times.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

How about these two? As for the 2018 film, the script was co-written by Abelard Giza.

They are characters from the comedy Female Commonwealth about post war soldiers from two camps: male and female. Commanders of the camps, I don`t know their film names, though, captain and lieutenant.

The title of 2018 film is Juliusz. I heard of it but I suspect it didn`t make a box office success.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

It comes from a comedy released last year.

Sorry, but there were a few released in 2018 and if I don`t know the actor, I would have to watch them all. So, I give up. :)

Lenka, your photo shows oberleutnant von Nogay from CK Deserters. Very funny film.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
USA, Canada / Shipping personal possessions from US to Poland [11]

Estimate cost is impossible right now cause the place of destination is too mysterious - do you think it is normal for an average Pole to know where the shythole Zagrodny is? :):)

Besides, you weren`t precise enough - do you need a van or a truck?

Check these ads about transporting things in Gdańsk
ogloszenia.trojmiasto.pl/transport-przeprowadzki/

I hope you speak Polish.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

So, we have run into certain inconsistency. On the first page, we praised some communist made goods for their quality, durability.

One thing that is not a myth. Washing machines. My MIL had hers' for 30 years, and it never saw a repair man.

Yes, this myth has been functioning for decades now and mostly it is true.

On this page we critisize them without mercy.

Where is the truth? Some products were durable indeed, on condition
- they didn`t contain advanced electronics
- contained Western components
- were made on new imported machinery.

E.g., washing machines: the first top-open washing machine in Poland was made under German licence in 1976. Like with many licenses, the initial production was based on many foreign parts because the Polish industry wasn`t able to provide them at the beginning. When it was, and all parts came from Polish factories in 1980s, and after the production machinery became worn out, the quality dropped substantially.

pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_P-565

The price was pretty hefty for PRL wages and I intended to give it to a friend when I left.

Yes, consumer goods were always expensive, one had to save for months or years to buy a TV etc.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

What about clothing, shoes, and such?

When Gierek`s rule ended in 1980, the loans amounted to 22 billion dollars. When communism fell in 1989, the loans were over 40 billion.

The crisis of late 1970s and early1980s toppled Gierek and caused an acute deficit of consumer goods, even basic ones. People traveled from city to city buy children shoes. Clothing was available but nobody wanted to wear those cheap (cotton was imported) plastic textiles becaue they resembled rural fashion of previous decades.

Why wasn't it possible to buy certain simple food items without lining up for half a day?

Loans had to be paid somehow, so communists exported surpluses of whatever was produced in Poland. But eventually there were no surpluses cause the economy was in a very bad state - efficiency was tragic, there were shortages of energy and materials.

If one is really interested, there are dozens of films on youtube. Despite their customs woith censorship, communists openly admited there was a crisis and they allowed to talk about shortages in media. Paradoxically, compared to state propaganda in PiS controlled media today, communist media lied less. It is sad but true.

E..g, why was there a shortage of pots, pans, etc?

See a film from one factory which made that stuff - people work in extremely harmful conditions without any protection. Look what they are doing at 1.20 - manually put in and take out metal buckets into that chrome liquid.

youtube.com/watch?v=mVyeEmdSshA

The 1988 film about Jaruzelski`s visit to a metal parts factory, they complain about the poor quality of steel they get. Look at the old machinery they work on.

youtube.com/watch?v=YeLNoV3XqZM

Jaruzelski`s visit to a local supermarket, people complain about shortages. Famous words: What? It is natural that meat is unavailable. But potatoes, too??? Potatoes were out of stock cause state farms were innefficient (no spare parts for farm machines) and individual farmers prefered to sell their produce in open air markets. Later in the film a factory worker complains that the machinery he works on is too old and often breaks down.

youtube.com/watch?v=gcrOGaugfjE

And so on and so on. I could show you many more.

because the black market demanded hard currency.

The black market was controlled by communist secret police, that was one of sources of hard currency for the system, that is why it existed at all - if communists wanted, they could get rid of it within a week. But they didn`t.

Perfectly illustrated in a gangster comedy Sztos 2. Try to find it with English subtitles.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

That was probably more a political decision as they wanted to avoid "westernization" of their populace.

No, Polish communists didn`t always fear Westernisation, after all Poles are Western Slavs. :)) During Gierek`s rule 1970 - 1980 the opening for the West was substantial.

The reason was simpler - heavy industry consumed most resources. A lot of consumer goods, especially advanced, required Western components which were available for hard currency which communists always lacked. I remember how I tried to replace a broken flourescent bulb in the kitchen lamp in 1980s - I wasn`t able to buy it anywhere cause it was out of stock in ALL shops - only available in whole new lamps.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

This is a film about communist electronics.

youtube.com/watch?v=VRXo1WXe_vc

One of commenters called PRLstory seems to be an expert on it. He loves to explain to all fanatics of communist times that most Polish sound systems were obsolete and of poor quality.. Their sound parametres were crippled. Serious music fans struggled to buy Western products and communist ones were for amateurs.

Why were these things produced at all? Good quality was only available in Western products but they were too expensive for communist clientele. The Chinese cheap stuff wasn`t produced yet. There was no other option - better poor quality than none, right?

The economic activities within the COMECON were coordinated

Yes, within COMECOM, the production of electronics, ships and cosmetics was assigned to Poland. Obsolete or not, that stuff was exported to the Soviet Union and elsewhere.

Quotas were always exceeded - at least on paper.

Yes, and eventually nobody knew what the real situation was, even communists. The system was incorrigible because they didn`t even know what to improve.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
USA, Canada / Historic(al) Americans and their ties with Poland/Poles [78]

Mika Brezinski! BOOOOOO!

Very good! I am really impressed. Yes, the daughter of Zbig Brzeziński.

a disappointed office seeker. When FDR was nearly assassinated back in '38 during a campaign stop, the Polish-born mayor of Chicago

Sorry, I have no idea who you are talking about now.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
Food / What do non-Poles think about eating the following Polish foods? [1450]

doesn't look very appetising either!

hahaha yes, but the first impression can be misleading. :)

I like this tinned chopped pork (thye make various kinds) cause it is fatty and salty - good after a strenuos effort like climbing or gardening.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
Life / Owning a house in true countryside of Poland - stories [692]

I only posted 3 pics of a sunset, could a few more because the colours and cloud patterns vary each time.

Take your time, I guess you are on vacation, enjoy it as much as you can. Good things always last so short. Happy moments are like butterflies, love is eternal longing.
pawian   
24 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

electronics.

In communist times as a young man I was interested in stereo systems, I knew all products, their prices, where they were available (shortages). Poles produced a lot of radios, tape recorders, record players etc. Unfortunately, they were either full licenses or Polish cases with Western components. Truly Polish products were non existent. After the purchase of a license, the production lasted for decades because there was no money for a new one - there were only slight modifications.

The same with other goods. I mentioned cars - licenses since 1960s. Polski Fiat 125p started in 1967 later gave rise to Polonez in 1978 - the same engine and mechanisms, only the body was new but still designed by an Italian! Can you imagine that Polski Fiat 125p was produced till 1991?? 24 years!

Tractors - Massey Ferguson from Britain since 1970s. City buses - Berliet from France. And hundreds other things. Communists bought Western technology with Western loans which were cheap in 1970s before the oil crisis. They hoped that Polish goods produced under the licenses could be exported to the West and the loans would be repaid. Unfortunately, it didn`t work. In result, the industry, both heavy and light, was becoming more and more obsolete and there was no money for investment.

Finally, communists realised the collapse of the system was inevitable because even the production of tanks was endangered by the total chaos in underinvested economy.
pawian   
23 Jul 2019
Life / Do you know these characters from Polish movies? [223]

I don`t know this characters. Not enough Poland`s propaganda in the world.

Crow, there is a Serbian/Yugoslavian motive in Polish war comedy Jak rozpętałem Drugą Wojnę Światową. POW Dolas jumps out of the German train and lands in Yugo territory. Serbs save him from Germans. Later there is a western style fight in a harbour inn. Before it, a pretty female sings a song in Serbian.


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pawian   
23 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

Communist countries focused on heavy industry. It was necessary to produce armament, especially tanks. Poland produced and exported a lot of tanks to Arab countries, later on they were blown up by Israelis or allies in Kuwait. The problem was the tanks were Soviet, we produced them on license. Communist Poland was able to manufacture big things on her own as long as they weren`t too advanced. In case of high technology, we had to import components or even whole technological lines.

Engineers were able to design simple Polish cars (Syrena, Mikrus) but only till the end of 1950s. Later on, all cars produced in Poland were Fiats (or their imitations) from Italy. The technological progress in car production in the world was too fast for communists to catch up with.
pawian   
23 Jul 2019
History / Modern myths and legends about communist past in Poland [250]

Another myth:
In communism Poland had its own national industry. Poles designed and produced Polish cars. They also produced various advanced products e..g, ships, machinery, electronics. Industry was supplied with many inventions which were purely Polish.

Today, most industry is owned by foreign capital which only assembles things in factories located in Poland.

pawian   
23 Jul 2019
Life / The climate for gardening in Poland [340]

Fortunately, fruit native to Poland is deliciously sweet. We grow 4 colours of raspberries - do you know which one is the sweetest?


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