History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [227]

@Bobko
Greenland is basically on the North Pole, as you stated yourself with a very low population.

Would you like seeing 2 million Russians marching through the North Pole to make a statement? Even if any power can do it. It's a gigantic waste of resources, money and time that could been spent on something far more productive.

Even sending 20 000 troops is questionable considering the waste nothingness that Greenland has to offer

History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [227]


Enourmous cost and liability, I would fire the general who planned it at the spot if I were in charge in America. Any opponent would only skirmish from time to time to make them stay there longer... Attrition alone would create mayhem

History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [227]


Both invading Ukraine and trying to gain Greenland can't possible gain power as power is being spent in trying to acquire it. If it went easy, fast and simple, then it would been "proof of that power" but, both Russian Federation's leadership and U.S.A leadership and people grossly overestimate their own powers, competency and reach. This is already evident to most of the world where many European states except a few odd ones that try to give a signal and a message that both countries are "overbreaching" their possibilities. While other countries are quiet and are trying to fool the fools and get as rich as possible during the process.

If you can't see Hungary, Serbia, China, Turkey, Belarus and North-Korea trying to gain as much as possible even tho they do not really contribute anything useful or at all. Then yeah... continue thinking it's about "gaining" power... I don't see a coalition build up in South America to counter U.S.A or in Asia to counter Russia excactly. They are laughing and counting moneys

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [183]


Would you think the same of Silesians or Pomeranian's or Kashubs who declare Polish nationality despite their families living multiple generations under German rule?

Tsk tsk here we disagree strongly amiga500

@Alien
Poland offered a military contingent with humanitarian aid at start of the invasion of Ukraine when the Russian army rushed to Kiev. Which was declined by Kiev, mainly cause it wasn't proposed by Kiev and probably was seen as a test to subdue and vassalize Ukraine under Poland and provide Kaczyński with a lot of influence domestically. it became nothing of it due to international concerns of worsening the situation and Ukraine not wanting a subdued role by Poland even tho it could increased chances to be included in the west "Defacto" and not "Dejure" until war was over.

Now Ukraine might dream of such a scenario but, it is far too late for it now. too many blunders made in Ukraine-Polish relations for any prospect of a close Polish-Ukrainian partnership.

only reason now to send Polish peacekeeping forces would be if requested by Russia to humiliate Ukraine. nothing more

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Makes very little sense for Poland
Yes it has steel, industry and military know how. It's specialised for Nordic environment.

Sweden has ambitions that are higher then their own capabilities and potentials, often also in contrast with Poland's own ambitions AND values.

Sweden has pushed for leftist ideologies within in the EU a lot, a little swing politically would make that a nightmare to behold for ANY partner. (Economically, politically or militarily)

Norway is a far more attractive partner for Poland due to Norway's economic capabilities but, also Norways naval expertise that would contribute to Poland's lacking naval capabilities in the baltics.

Norway has no history of meddling in Poland's internal affairs at the level of Sweden, nor has any natural reason to be or become a security risk for Poland. Both border Russian Federation and Norway has a need of agricultural produce, that Poland can easily fill in with her agricultural market.

Norwegian investments and even owning of land in North-western Poland would become a bump for any Swedish or German meddling that would be deemed a security risk by any sane Pole.

History / Why Poland is not Russia [260]

@mafketis
Besides if values were close, Moscovites wouldn't have kicked out Royalist forces out of Moscow when Poland-Lithuania shortly controlled it. It was found unacceptable with Moscovites core values, similirarily it was unacceptable to have Russia control lands deemed as Poland and uprisings easily sprung up.

It's like oil and water while both being liquids and could be in the same jar

Po polsku / Polska Broń Atomowa [106]

@Torq
Broń atomowa odstrasza, i zmusza do zamysłu przed atakiem każdego napastnika. W praktyce jest to broń która tam samo niszczy wroga jak i własne siły z powodu ogromnego pola rażenia. Każdy teren na którym się użyje robi się bezwartościowy i traci na wartości i powodu podbicia. Czemu podbijąć jak już niema podatników ani możliwości robienia upraw?

Na dodatek pogorszenia stosunków dyplomatycznych, jedynie przydatne jest do produkcji energii dzięki potrzeby technologii które nadal trzeba ściśle monitorować.

O wiele bardziej przydatne są silne, dobrze i duże wyszkolone siły konwencjonalne o wiele większym polu manewru i użytku. Za równo do obrony jak i przy wsparciu sojuszników za granicą i do ochrony zagranicznych inwestycji (chociaż akurat tutaj to siły specjalne i tajne służby są bardziej przydatne i placówki dyplomatyczne)

Zanim Armia Polska się teraz zwiększy to trzeba ulepszyć produkcję amunicji artyleryjskiej, zwłaszcza pod potrzeb KRABów i ulepszenie tajnych linii zaopatrzenia. Zakamuflowane ciężarówki pod kątem zaopatrzenia (najlepiej nocne ciężarówki sterowane przez SI które mogą jeździć nocą z ochroną przeciw radarową lub aparatów które by je mogły wyłapać z dystansu)

Koleje podziemne na dalekie odległości i drony latające do transportu w trudnych warunkach (małe lotniska specjalizowane dla dronów w karpatach i lub transport szybko montujących pole lądowania dla dronów w przeróżnych terenach które by były w każdej jednostce wojskowej)

A jeżeli odpowiedź jest: Ba! A z skąd brać na to pieniądze? Wystarczy skontaktować się z wojskiem Norweskim które mogło być zainteresowane takimi próbami i inwestycją by zdobyć takie sposoby też dla siebie i używane/testowane w Polsce

History / Recommended Poland's history books [257]

@marion kanawha
Due to a lot of events last 200 years in Polish history it has been important to find out what works, what doesn't work and reform it before it's not possible. Finding causes of mistakes and wrong doings as not to repeat them and underline current policies being popularised by certain political groups.

More authoritarian leaning groups worried about illegitimate tyranny from abroad will parrot many points made by partitioning powers about centralisation, strong state etc while more idealist groups will focus on the achievements of Polish society state and the failures of partitioning powers and draw in successes of other countries whom to copy cat.

This will be reflected in history books, wether it's critical or not. More importantly to score a winning argument against other political side and it's view on history.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1442]

@Bratwurst Boy

If they decided that it's best to be in opposition due to international situation and best for own party and Germany in long run while accommodating Scholz with a personal unknown reward or "deal". I am not really that surprised

News / European News and Poland Thread - part 4 [918]

@Bratwurst Boy
Who tho? U.S.A? Makes no sense
Russia? Busy in Ukraine?
China? Can't even take Taiwan

News / 11th November Independence Day in Poland [73]

@pawian
You know best media to follow or Watch today the march? I tried TV Republika, but seems they only show short cuts of it and change topics

News / How will Polish-American relations change if Trump is elected president again? [723]

@Bratwurst Boy
You are thinking about proffesional media! Hard to come by these days, most seem to have just turned in to gossip magasinets. Oddly enough the most proffesional news in Norway come out of a «workers newspaper» which is most old fashioned leftist there is, which I refuse to read out of principle.

So much to ignore, so little to read.

News / How will Polish-American relations change if Trump is elected president again? [723]

@Bratwurst Boy
Media lives off connections, they gather information to spread it out and earn a living that way!

News / How will Polish-American relations change if Trump is elected president again? [723]

@Bratwurst Boy
It's popular to draw attention from domestic issues, but I think european media just jumps on the election hype due to connections with American media

(I agree with you, let it finally be fri**n over)

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@johnny reb
I think most people in the countryside in Poland. Prepare meal at home, while those in the cities either drive or go by public transport to a restaurant.

Diners aren't really a thing in Poland, closest you get to it is maybe visiting a favorite Karczma on a special occasion.

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [183]

@jon357
Educated people generally do*

Intelligent people know that either extreme is bad, a heartless brain or a stupid heart makes no sense to pursue. Yet we need our hearts and brains.

Which make it difficult in reporting anything in the Middle East if those reporting it are one sided

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [183]

@Bratwurst Boy
Very similar situation in Norway, almost all journalists vote leftist (not just to the left of centre).

It is worrying however if it's true that IDF sabotages UN peacekeepers

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@GefreiterKania
Torn between indeed!
How it made the facial expression, incredible. Did not expect it from AI!

Really humorous tool

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Oh no...

The picture is far more accurate then I would want it to be, the horror (mental state that is)

Found some of the pictures of other posters to be very well done to. Humorous!

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]

Apparently Russian foreign ministry has commented about Soviet Unions invasion of Poland in 1939. Presenting it as righteous protection of Belarusian and Ukrainians from genocide. Omitting if they mean it Poland or Germany at the time would or was performing genocide on Belarusians and Ukrainians.

With Germany's foreign ministry responding: "Seriously?"

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]


I recommend for you to read about the anti-Polish operations in interwar era of the Soviet Union.

Years 1921-1939 is an interesting read about the persecution and basically removal of Poles and Polishness in the Soviet Union. The numbers should give you a clear understanding of the hostility of the Soviet Union towards Poland. Add to that the complete control of the Polish people's army and its state, with more Red army personnel and NKVD specifically stationed in post-ww2 Poland then compared to Soviet occupied Germany.

Ukraine would need two centuries to catch up in atrocities being done towards Poland despite its brutality in ww2.

Despite this one has to remember that villages in Eastern Europe was roamed, burned and scouted about by Lisowczycy that can only be compared to Genghis Khan raiders inspired by the wars with Sweden. (Swedens atrocities in it's wars 400+ years ago makes ww2 seem cute if you imagine the same proportions being attributed in modern times)

So if you can bear no grudge towards Swedes today, you can bear no grudge towards Russians AND Ukrainians. It only needs time

Language / Older Polish Exclamations/Swears [14]

@GefreiterKania
I would say meaning wise you are correct, it's understood more in sense of "God protect us from this" (as in not letting it happen).

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [487]


Hopefully not! American earth has been so much used and abused that levels of magnesium in the earth has reached an all time low! Providing lower amounts of magnesium in foods! Doing same thing with same methods is a real tragedy if it is happening in Ukraine!

Off-Topic / Nobel Prize and Oscars = Propaganda? [61]


I don't like Ron2, as he reminds me of somebody. So no comment from me on this.

@Paulina
Well as Alfred Nobel deemed Norwegians to have been more peaceful of the two nations (Swedes or Norwegians), it seen as a badge of honour to be able to give it out and can create international and domestic issues as the group that hands it out are independent of the govern of Norway (which certain countries can't get their head about and think it's a move from the Norwegian government when giving it to controversial figures like opposition in China). While a financial oriented government prefers trade and sale of fish through China.

Norwegian media is very leftist in general so mainstream media and even rightist parties would not be considered conservative (value wise).

It would be a faux pa to consider Trump a good president and say bad things about Obama. It's very one directional and people have to consent to be on board about it.

Wałęsa was seen as worker championing for workers against tyranny of politicians in 1980's of course he got a Nobel peace prize. Especially when solutions were of talks, negotiations and agreements rather then revolution, violence and war

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

@Bobko
So if another country then Russia had same goals as you listed. Committed atrocities on Russians in name of good. You would be fine with that? I wouldn't

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


You got to think bigger, decent people prefer to talk, negotiate, being verbal and non-physical. That way, finding other decent people abroad is much easier if they think people are not as decent as themselves domestically (experiences are done mostly domestically).

Big "decent" corporations see hostility towards "foreign" migration and laws as first warning and barrier before their own company gets targeted (to be nationalised or out competed by nationalist policies. It's another reason why international companies try to have non-nationalist parties ruling in a state they invest in.

They don't want to lose money, same with regard to Germany. Viewed by any party! Germany as society, not only as a state has invested a lot in Poland (cause it's profitable and safe...)

Any threat to that investment will be important

Law / Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns? [1070]


Not the right angle to approach when debating an American.

Poland is fortunate enough to have a very coherent nation compared to many countries (A Pole will surely disagree, since division and differences are a natural thing in Poland. If in lack of it, it's created...)

However Poland's ruling "elites" throughout last 200 years know perfectly well that without people's support they are doomed to lose their comfortable seats. No matter how much or what kind of repression is done due to mainly having very strong and populated states in it's vicinity that wouldn't mind to use and create strife to install or control the country directly how they see fit.

And... the population knows this very well. Therefore the need for individual and personal security is a lot smaller then in America as from the south to the north the greatest and useally sole reason for limitation of freedom, economy or opportunities in life are the ones who are NOT threatened by neighbouring elites or heads of state.

Therefore they must be far more aware of what is going in behind closed doors and level of paranoia is far greater then in Europe.

Also who has access to weapons such as guns and not only white weapons (swords, knives etc for all the "colour sensitives") is far more detrimental in societies that have conflicts across cultural, racial or religious lines and not only on the mere thought of ideological differences in management and goals how things should be run around.

Not to mention the military industrial complex that are the result of gun ownership and gun production. Avid defenders of personal freedom and gun enthusiasts are proponents of arm deals and gun enterprises to be sold domestically just as internationally.

U.S.A reaps many forms of rewards from having a very large military. Any major power that wants to outcompete U.S.A internationally needs to ban guns first in America, otherwise there will be partisans with guns just as "The amount of straws in the fields". No serious state would comfortably invade mainland U.S.A due to gun ownership alone.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Cry me a river

My family and many others (Polish families!) lost properties, family and valueables. Forced from their ancestral lands where they lived for centuries.

Builders build, cryers cry.
I rather look to the future! See after what we can have by building instead of what was lost, that won't truly return.

When Mongols burned cities of wood, you build one of stone! :)

History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [227]


Ask Russian media about it! They could then tell you about Poland's Imperial ambitions of taking over Ukraine, Belarus and Europe! Before taking over the world of course! Labour apples and discussions!