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Posts by Trevek  

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From: Olsztyn
Speaks Polish?: not a lot
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Trevek   
19 Mar 2010
Travel / Hard Candy - Krakow, Poland - reviews? [131]

The girls are probably in the pay of the bar. The cocktails are probably coloured water. Even a whisky and coke won't have any whisky in if the girls are drinking it.

Had this scam in Turkey and Paris.
Trevek   
19 Mar 2010
Food / Healthy polish food? [134]

few vegetables

FEW VEGETABLES?????

Come on, I mean you can't order a glass of water without it being accompanied by chopped salad.
Trevek   
15 Mar 2010
Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

po polsku?

No, in English.

he didn't really mean anything by it, it was a mixture of him not being able to understand I found his over-friendliness annoying and bad paralinguistics/intonation etc.
Trevek   
15 Mar 2010
Life / Giving tips in Poland [235]

eeehhh, not really. it's not that they're under-qualified. they do what they are asked to do according to the policies of the restaurants they work at, and some of them are pretty damn efficient at it. it's simply a matter of different cultures. it's done differently here than in America. totally different. Polish bartenders can't improve on something they don't know "exists", if that makes any sense.

yeah, I know what you mean.

I had a waiter in one bar who came up and asked for the order. I asked him in Polish which beers he had. He straight away started speaking in English, although I was speaking Polish. OK, I thought, he's trying to be helpful. He then started describing each beer. I told him I'd lived in Poland a few years. He said, "Oh, so you're the expert then!"

I wanted to punch his lights out. OK, he was only trying to be helpful but he presumably had no idea how insulting and patronising he sounded (that's why I didn't do anything).

Funny thing was that when I mentioned it to Poles, they didn't find anything wrong with it. Brits asked me if I'd hit him.
Trevek   
15 Mar 2010
Life / Polish (in comparison to English and Indian) have amazing culture [71]

needless to say we did it 6 times in 32 hrs, she had to work today- so i am jobless writing this.
dudes and babes you need to try this durex sensation fire gel - its amazing for both of us

And does she know you're telling the world about it?

Maybe it is true he just describes it in his local culture terms?

Maybe find out about his culture. What's all this about Allah and camels? The guy is Hindu... totally different thing. All it does is show you and the others up as ignorant. Maybe that's why the Polish girls prefer him to you.
Trevek   
15 Mar 2010
Life / Polish (in comparison to English and Indian) have amazing culture [71]

cumbriadude

Have you considered that Polish girls might find you 'exotic', whereas Indian and british girls might be more used to an Indian guy? Damn, how I envy you!

Another point, how is it that the mods on these forums are quite ready to jump on some other threads for, allegedly, going off topic BUT they are more than prepared to let all the racist drivel on this thread stay?
Trevek   
8 Mar 2010
History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

Yeah, It's OK to sing supposedly protestant/republican songs, get drunk and swear (not behaviour you'd usually see in church) and claim you are defending your religion.

I always found these guys comically sad.

I believe the wheelbarrow was invented to help them learn to walk upright.

I once was sitting near a guy in aGlasgow pub. He was watching Croatia on the TV sport channel. A Croat player tripped and crossed himself, "Aye, that's whit it's aa aboot! Yugoslavia, nice country, communist, but nice.... it wiz the church o' rome which broke it up!"

I was itching to ask him if he actually knew what the orthodox church was.
Trevek   
8 Mar 2010
Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

BTW communicative approach was invented to teach English and it does not have to work the best allways and everywhere like american model of democracy (-:

What? When i think of US democracy I think it takes a lot of money to be a major part of it... so maybe a bit like ELT!
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

The next sin is faith that all languages can be taught like English.

But is this really the case?

Part of the problem is that some people think it is necessary to learn all the grammar first and then use it. I've taught japanese kids who have great grammar skills and can do exercises but almost never spoke because of the way they'd been taught at home.

Likewise, I attended a Polish course in Scotland which was run by Polish NS and English teachers. It was geared rather like an English course and it worked very well at getting people speaking and using the grammar. We had to write essays, translate poetry and watch films in Polish (short ones for study purposes). It worked very well.

The thing is that that course was taught in an English speaking country. In Poland the main focus should be on using the language because that is what you'll be doing as soon as you walk out the door.
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

Speaking like a 5yo is more useful than knowing all the technical aspects but not being able to communicate.

My wife thinks that's how I speak.

My Polish colleague notes when all the Brits/Americans in the school try to mówić po polsku, our voices go up an octave.
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

Exactly.

I think there's also a problem with NS's of other languages in that they assume a student has a knowledge of their own system from a grammatical perspective.

I remember having a German class at uni where the teacher was a german NS. She declared we'd be stidying the accusative that day. I reckoned that if I, as one of the oldest in the class, didn't know what it was then a lot of the younger studes wouldn't either,

"What's the accusative?"

"This is the accusative"

"But when would i use 'the accusative'?"

(sigh) "When would you normally use the accusative?"

unable to realise that it was the concept of 'accusative' which i was unaware of.
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

Most people I know who tried to learn Polish from a course in Poland quit because it was so pedantic.

I think this is reflective of the way languages have traditionally been taught here. I sometimes have older students and they can't get used to all the communicative stuff in ELT, they think if I make them sleep with a years supply of Murphy's under their bed then they'll learn by osmosis.

They can't accept that being able to communicate with mistakes is better than knowing the mechanics but not being able to drive.
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
Work / Learning Polish in Olsztyn... crazy prices for private lessons. [27]

Can you advise me any good way to learn Polish in Olsztyn?

Ask up at the university. They have a department for teaching Polish to foreigners.

UNIVERSITY OF WARMIA AND MAZURY IN OLSZTYN.
CENTRE OF CULTURE AND POLISH LANGUAGE FOR FOREIGNERS
KURTA OBITZA STREET 1,
10- 725 OLSZTYN, POLAND
TEL./FAX +48 89 524 65 64

PM me a phone number and I'll ask a few folk if they know anyone.

TREV:-)
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

When a Catholic Pole sees an Orthodox Russian like Fedor Emelianenko or a prominent Serb pledge allegiance to God, would they really bat an eyelid?

Yeah, I mean, they're just like us Scots in that respect, aren't they?
...
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

Problem isn`t Catholicism or Orthodoxy, at least not from Serbian side.

Oh, I just recall protestors in Skopje declaring the NATO attack on Serbia was really a front for a Jewish/Catholic plot against the Orthodox Church (and that the Bosnians were traitors because they'd embraced Islam... a similar argument to the Croats')
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
History / Is There A Polish Foreign Legion? [35]

Don't learn him real true history! Shh are you out of your mind?

OOps, sorry!

Yeah, forget what I said. The Poles actually fooled the Swedes into going home by putting signs up telling them there was football match on TV (then the Poles went to drink some more warka).
Trevek   
7 Mar 2010
History / Is There A Polish Foreign Legion? [35]

unlike sheltered overated scandanavians who still live off the notoriety of the vikings and have done little to nothing since(other than the danish)

Except invade Poland.
Trevek   
6 Mar 2010
Life / IS CHEATING ON EXAMS OK? (younger Poles don't think so) [30]

Some of the universities in California may ban the presence of cell phones, during the taking of school exams. This is due to various students being caught in the act, of taking a photo of the actual test.

A Polish colleague of mine who is an examiner for the Cambridge exams told me that Cambridge had had to revise its practice for listening exams (different days in different countries, only one paper) because students were photographing and recording the tests and then selling them on the internet.

The 2 main culprits; Greece (well, I suppose they need the money these days) and... can you guess?
Trevek   
5 Mar 2010
History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

I'm not sure about the etymology of the word but we have Masurian - Mazur, and
Masovian - Mazowszanin; two separate terms, which are not interchangeable.

According to wiki (so it must be true):

The Masurians or Mazurs or Masurs (Polish: Mazurzy, German: Masuren) are a Lechitic sub-ethnic group in the Masovian and Warmian-Masurian Voivodeships in Poland. They are descended from Masovians (Polish: Mazowszanie; German: Masowier), Polish settlers from Masovia who moved to Prussia especially during and after the Protestant Reformation and were primarily Protestant. In the 1800s the Masuria region of East Prussia was named after the Masurians.
Trevek   
5 Mar 2010
History / Poland is great Mother of all Slavs from Baltic to Balkan [177]

Mongol invasions? Forgive me but I'm not familiar with that. Only Tatars.

Here's some info. Mind you, it seems the Poles and Lithuanians kicked Mongol ass, whereas the Serbian king rolled over for them...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_invasion_of_Europe

Oh, did you know that Scottish knights were guests of the Teutonic Order during the Northern Crusades into Prussia and Lithuania?