News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]

[Moved from]: Polish thugs attack helpless Ukrainians

A pretty dreadful story, this one. Ukrainian workers living in the town of Chwaszczyno (near the Tri-City agglomeration) were attacked by drunken Polish thugs late at night. They were assaulted, and the drunken mob accused them of "stealing jobs" and told them to "go home". They were attacked with all sorts of weapons, including broken battles and bats. The same thugs also attacked the owner of the company that employed the Ukrainians.

More about this story (in Polish):
trojmiasto.wyborcza.pl/trojmiasto/7,35612,21889822,w-chwaszczynie-zaatakowano-dom-w-ktorym-mieszkaja-ukraincy.html?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=SM&utm_campaign=FB_Gazeta_Wyborcza

Disgusting. The rise in attacks against foreigners during this government is absolutely and completely unacceptable. The government has blood on its hands.

It's also worth pointing out that they weren't taking jobs from locals, as there was an acute labour shortage that the Ukrainians were filling. One can only express surprise at the way that the Polish government was quick to go to Egypt (or the UK) when there was a death there, but they turn a blind eye to violence in Poland.

USA, Canada / Polish-American criminals [70]

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Racist Polish-American viciously assaults and abuses delivery driver

A nasty story from the US, where a poor defenceless Amazon delivery driver was viciously assaulted, both verbally and physically by a Polish-American.

nypost.com/2017/05/02/man-screamed-white-power-during-brutal-assault-on-delivery-man-court

The Polish-American in question seemed to fail to understand the irony in this...


He continued...


Nevermind the fact that with a name like "Zatorski", America is clearly not his country...

Anyway:


As we can see yet again, the real threat to American society comes from white men, not from immigrants. One can only wonder what a great country America would be without the presence of racist Americans. It seems that you can't open the news without reading about yet another hate attack carried out by white American men towards defenceless minorities.

Perhaps the only solution is to provide all immigrants to the US with a gun so that they can defend themselves appropriately against this threat.

News / Future of Polish-Ukrainian relations [669]

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Poland arrests and deports pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian Freedom Fighter

Perhaps in a sign of the times, Poland deported an Austrian man. He was fighting against the Russian forces in Eastern Ukraine, and was accused by pro-Russian elements in Austria of having committed war crimes. Those allegations clearly had no basis in reality.

houstonchronicle.com/news/crime/article/War-crimes-suspect-in-Ukraine-conflict-extradited-11182112.php

Clearly an absolute joke by all accounts. He should have been received as a hero in Poland for fighting against the unlawful Russian occupation in Eastern Ukraine, but instead, Poland treated him like a common criminal and extradited him instead. Does this government have no dignity whatsoever?

One can only wonder why the Poles took the Russian view of things rather than the far more credible Ukrainian view.

History / What do Poles owe to Jews? [593]

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Priceless Torah scroll finally returned to Jewish hands after decades

While Poland often complains about Polish artefacts in foreign hands, Poles are often unwilling to return items originally belonging to the Jewish community to their rightful owners. This week saw a very small step in the right direction, as a Polish woman finally returned pieces of a Torah scroll from the Holocaust era to the Jewish people. Her grandmother had selfishly kept it for many years without returning it, and it took plenty of persuasion for the grandchild to actually return what didn't belong to her in the first place. It's a pity that it wasn't returned immediately after the war, and even more of a pity that it took over 70 years to be returned to the rightful owners. The same story is repeating itself all over Poland, whereby accidental owners of such artefacts often demand significant compensation in order to return them home.

One can only wonder how many more priceless artefacts are out there, being kept hidden away by greedy owners who couldn't care less about their significance to Poland's small yet thriving Jewish community. It is the obligation of every Polish person to hand these artefacts over immediately and without monetary compensation.

algemeiner.com/2017/05/30/holocaust-era-torah-scroll-fragments-from-poland-returned-to-jewish-hands-decades-later

Life / How do Polish people treat their animals? [33]

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Abuse of animals in Poland

Unfortunately, those who live in Poland know that countryside attitudes towards animals is often very poor. Dogs are left chained up all day and night, while other animals such as horses are commonplace. Animals are often overworked, with some of the worst cases occurring with the horses in Zakopane which transport tourists.

This video should raise a few eyebrows: equista.pl/obrazek/1024/horse-abuse-in-poland

Unfortunately, the Polish government has no interest in the welfare of animals. Their core electorate from the villages see no harm in abusing God's creations, so we can expect the current sad state of affairs to continue for the time being. One can only hope that they pick up The Bible at some point during their rule in order to understand that animals deserve the same respect as fellow humans.

I believe there was also a recent report about the conditions in which pigs are kept in Poland which highlighted the disgraceful state of affairs here.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Oh, come on.

reuters.com/article/us-poland-airbus-idUSKCN12B1BJ


Please don't be a typical PiS voter, really.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Really? Where's your proof of this? Anyone can report a crime Polly, why don't you go ahead and report what you know?

Ziobro wants control of the courts so he can tell judges what the results should be. Still, perhaps you can explain to us why the pre-1989 situation of judges being under political control is superior to the current system.

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That sounds like trying to justify an unbelievable case of corruption with the involvement of a Boeing lobbyist.


Why wasn't it in Poland's interests? We already know that they offered a huge offset deal, which was much better than anyone else could offer.


Come on Ironside, that Egypt story was completely rubbished very quickly.

By the way, I find it interesting that you think that ex-PZPR members aren't commies. Any particular reason for that?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


They aren't. Unless you want to tell us about your knowledge of an order that a) wasn't tendered and b) wasn't announced. Even Polonius hasn't attempted to claim this.


Isn't that more reason to keep with civilian LOT-operated planes? LOT have a decent safety record, unlike the military.


He's not an obscure dude. He was the head of the Smolensk sub-commission.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


But of course he did. Of course, he's not saying anything about a deal that even members of PiS know to be so rotten that they want nothing to do with it.

Isn't it also strange that Ziobro is conveniently trying to seize control of the courts at the same time as making such claims? I mean, it wouldn't be anything to do with Stalinist show trials, would it?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Anyone else notice how Polonius goes on a rant about other members when he wants to deflect attention from one of the most unbelievable cases of open corruption in a long time in Poland?

Polonius, don't you realise that by trying to cover these things up, it just gets worse in the end? Macierewicz is even annoying people in PiS now, and they've voted today to investigate the Boeing VIP plane deal. Wouldn't it be better to admit that it's probably a case of corruption, and that PiS should be looking for a defence minister who doesn't have suspicious links to American lobbyists?

You and I want the best for Poland's defence, don't we?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Where are our helicopters? Why did Poland order VIP planes rather than helicopters? Most importantly, why did ex-PZPR member and Head of the Smolensk Sub-Commission Wacław Berczyński vanish to the USA after a) receiving large loans from Boeing to buy property and b) boasting about how he killed the order for the helicopters? Why wasn't there a fair and open tender for those VIP planes?

Why are you trying to defend this situation? I really don't understand it Ironside. You supposedly hate the commies so much, yet you turn a blind eye to an ex-commie's involvement in a horrific case of corruption.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Really? Where's his investigation into Macierewicz, then?

He's not going against corruption at all. He's going against personal enemies, such as the cardiologists from the hospital where his father died. It's classic PZPR behaviour.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Unfortunately for you, those school closures are taking place all over the country.

More to the point, why are you so dismissive of the concerns of citizens in small towns?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Yup, they're closing schools, hospitals and they've just ordered expensive VIP planes for themselves while the military goes without badly needed helicopters.

Lesser evil my ass.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Strange how you have no problems with the commie trash like Jasiński, Piotorwicz and the ultimate example of commie opportunist trash, Waclaw Berczynski, isn't it?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Except as all the polls show, they've been turning *to* him.

Polly, I'll ask again: why is it so hard for you to accept that some elements of PiS are electoral poison? PiS are struggling to pull clear of PO because they can't deal with Macierewicz and the corruption scandal of the decade (reminder: A Boeing lobbyist was responsible for Poland cancelling a badly needed military helicopter order and replacing it with an order for VIP planes for the government - the same lobbyist fled Poland as soon as the deal was signed).

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Latest poll by Kantar Public:

PiS: 28%
PO: 27%
Kukiz'15: 10%
Nowoczesna: 5%

It is, to all practical extents, equal.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


It's already well and truly out.

The disturbing thing is watching Kukiz's silence over the whole thing. Anti-system my ass.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Didn't his father also get money from the MON for some reason?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


So, if you're so concerned about the Polish people - why aren't you standing up against PiS for closing hospitals and ambulance stations while ordering hugely expensive and unneeded VIP planes? Oh, and why has the person that boasted about cancelling the helicopter deal now vanished back to the US, where he bought some property that was way beyond his means with a loan from Boeing?

natemat.pl/207747,se-macierewicz-dostal-od-szydlo-ponad-30-tys-zl-nagrod-wiecej-od-innych-ministrow-internet-docieka-za-co

Oh, and why aren't you concerned about Macierewicz getting a bonus of 30,000zł? Many Poles don't even earn 30,000zł a year!

natemat.pl/207735,juz-wiadomo-ile-misiewicz-zarabial-w-mon-jednak-kownacki-nie-ujawnil-jego-zarobkow-w-panstwowych-spolkach

Oh, and what about Misiewicz getting over 10,000zł a month from the Ministry of Defence despite having zero qualifications or experience?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


I find it quite interesting that Polonius still has nothing to say about the scandal of PiS cancelling a badly needed helicopter order for the military and replacing it with some unneeded VIP planes.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Closed schools, closed hospitals and orders for hugely expensive VIP planes. The legacy of PiS, indeed!

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

I wonder what that has to do with PiS closing hospitals...

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Another day, and yet another example of PiS destroying communities. This time, it concerns hospitals in the Greater Poland province, three of which are due to be shut down by PiS. The doctors at one of the hospitals have issued an open letter protesting about the decision.

eoborniki.pl/informacje/lokalne/7472-przeciwko-likwidacji-szpitala-w-kowanowku.html

A complete disgrace. PiS promised to be "for the people", but all they've done is order expensive VIP planes for their own use while closing down badly needed hospital facilities.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


How was the poll conducted?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


It wouldn't be much cheaper to build a big enough bridge. Most Zawacka in Toruń cost about €180 million, and it might not be high enough to ensure unobstructed access to Szczecin, especially as the Tall Ships are always there.

A tunnel makes much more sense there, as you simply don't have to worry about clearance issues.