News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


OK I was wrong a bit - actually one instance of support lists have been revealed by Gazeta Wyborcza but there was nothing wrong with the support list if you ask me - the tv programme i watch made me think they published all of the lists - maybe I misunderstood some things

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


the KRS support lists have been disclosed recently - what do you mean by extra judges?

during the first PiS (plus coalition) government the lustration (vetting) bill was deemed unconstitutional by the contemporanous Trybunał Konstytucyjny based on the article 2, 65 and 31 of the constitution - go and see what those articles state - I hope you will understand how partisan (or corrupt) that body was -


the judgement was not a judgement because the bill on the structure and the proceedings of the TK has been changed and according to the then binding bill it was not a verdict of the Tribunal (for formal reasons)

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


that's what I thought - this is one thing the current Polish government wants to tackle: the exploitation of farmers and workers by the big capital - I know, I know it sounds a bit bolshevik - but I think it is achieveable in much better ways than bolshevism (i.e through state ownership of everything or forced collectivisation)


do jugde Serbia by one Crow heh ;)

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


I actually understand it - I think the point is you don't realize how much Germany benefited from the common currency - you would probably changed your view a bit then

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


because? because America imposes tariffs on German goods that are competetive because of the euro currency? in my opinion if you see America as a threat then you see Liberty as a threat - but that's just my opinion

I understand your point - but the thing is the point shows that you show little to no solidarity - and then you demand solidarity from other member states by demanding of them to take immigrants quota - isn't NATO about solidarity (I personally believe German elites would want to leave NATO if it wasn't for bad reception it would have among it's Western European partners )

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


so because Russia has beef with Ukraine you don't trust Poland? you strike a deal with Russia which is directly against the interests of Poland and you want us to trust Germany?

what if someday Russia wants to invade in Poland - should we trust you to defend Poland - many in Poland don't and that's why we want stricter relationship with the United States - and then you call us American puppet - can you not see a vicious circle?

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


the practice was that judges were moved into retirement after reaching the retirement age (stan spoczynku) - so either this article was being broken throughout the history of democratic Poland or that the article conflicts both with what other constitution articles state and with what the Constitutional Tribunal said about the issue - and you know Constitutional Tribunal has the final say of what laws are binding according to the constitution (not you)

as for the European Law - please quote the laws the European Court of Justice or whatever it is called cited in their verdict - also even if it is so then the laws of the EU are conflicted on the matter

by the way: by the ruling of German Constitutional Tribunal all internal German laws have a precedence over European laws - interesting no?

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

you asked for a translation -here you are - I wanted to do it quick and I never claimed here that my English is fluent

Two verdicts by the Constitutional Tribunal - from 1998 and 2014 have established that it is lawful under the constitution for parliament to set a retirement age for judges, including lowering of the retirement age. The verdict from 2014 was given by a the Constitutional Tribunal under prof. Rzepliński, who now opposes the judiciary reforms.

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


You said PiS broke the law a couple of times - and I said it's probably easy to name a couple of them - but so far you haven't given any

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


constitution doesn't say anything on how the Supreme Court should look like - it grants the parliament the right to shape it - and PiS did just that?

in case you had doubts here's a quote in Polish : Dwa wyroki Trybunału Konstytucyjnego - z 1998 r. i 2014 r. - wykazały, że zgodnym z Konstytucją RP jest wyznaczanie przez parlament wieku przejścia w stan spoczynku sędziów, jak i obniżanie tego wieku. Wyrok z 2014 r. wydał skład sędziowski pod przewodnictwem prof. Andrzeja Rzeplińskiego, który teraz krytykuje reformę sądownictwa.

any more examples of how PiS broke the law?

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


I don't deny Germany its gas even if it comes from Russia - the thing is it would have been cheaper (as much as ten times cheaper) to build another stretch of pipeline through Baltic States and Poland - yet Germany chose to strike a deal with Russia and build Nord Stream against the very interest of Poland - if it wasn't the case Poland would not seek to buy gas from Norway, USA or Katar

- why am I supposed to trust someone who doesn't trust me

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

you know - solidarity is a two way street - why don't you ask Mr Merkel why she pressed for a gas pipe bypassing Poland and the Baltic states - why did Germany want to press the immingrant quotas on Poland then - realpolitik?

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


the European treaties give the member states the right to organize their judiciaries - that's one

two - Polish constitution states that the organization of the Supreme Court is defined by a parliament bill - and PiS just changed the bill simples - judges were bound to retire by previous laws as well - PiS just changed the retirement age

any more examples?


PiS was not forced to withdraw it - but realised that it was a fight too much for one year - but now judges went for a counteroffensive which can lead to judiciary anarchy in Poland

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


please remind me - you said they broke the law a couple of times - it must be easy to name all of them

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

I have long ago resigned to the fact that I'm ugly :P

also you try do detract from the gist of the matter - and the gist of the matter is that PiS is a democratic and democracy respecting party as shown by their past decisions and every sane person is able to determine it

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


as I said - you are an extremist - I call you rabid for simplicity

by the way: what laws did PiS break - please give a couple of examples


maybe PiS will control all institutions - but they are a democratic party and run elections and there is no change to that in sight unless you are rabid or hysterical

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]


Kaczyński never categorically stated neither for the domestic market nor intentionally (as far as I know) that Poland will press the war reparations issue on Germany - it is very much an issue on a slow burner

Polish public (ok PiS supporters including myself) are no against Germany per se but against the German meddling in Polish affairs or pressurising Poland through EU institutions

- most Polish people are (or maybe were) unaware of the irregularities and pathologies of the previous regimes although they were on the receiving end of what was the outcome of those pathologies

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


no such thing ever happened in the times of PiS government - simples

as far as I know no such thing happened in PRL after Bierut as well


first of all I am all for the American system where judges are elected directly by the public
- secondly when judges are an authority unto themselves this pretty soon leads to the rule of lawyers (as manifested to some degree in Poland) - I bet you understand that the rule of lawyers is not democracy

- also the European Union Tribunal (or whaterver it is called) is appointed by politician who currently rule in the countries in respect (for a term of course, however) - do you have qualms with that? - also PiS is by no means a totalitarian power but a democracy abiding party - if they behave like bullies they will be punished in the first election

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]

you are actually the only member of this forum who calls the PiS goverment criminal - this is why I call you rabid

News / Why is Poland so hostile against Germany? Do they realize how their reparations rubbish damages relations? [510]

@Weimarer

to my understanding PiS (or namely Kaczyński) try to use war reparation demands as a deterring tool against the forays of Germany into our internal matters (if this was a true will of Kaczyński Poland would officially demand the reparations by now) - but I guess it can backfire badly - it is also playing into the widespread Polish sentiment so in a way it is a tool of internal politics of Poland

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


can you see martial law looming? I don't - but I understand rabid or hysterical people have their imaginations slightly off

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


do you realize that the rabidness of the likes of you can lead to a civil war?

News / Dodgy PRL-holdover judiciary finally reformed [420]


how is the government actually breaking the law

Work / Photography Jobs in Poland? [5]

once you get married to a Polish citizen you are allowed to work in Poland but immigration services would check if you both live together as far as I know ( they do it in order to fight sham marriages)

Work / Photography Jobs in Poland? [5]


as far as I know you have to be employed by someone to get a Karta Pobytu (residence card) if you are not a EU-citizen (or be a spouse of someone who is Polish or allowed residence in Poland

- some countries allow residence for investors bringing in money to the host country but a quick search in Polish didn't find any such method for Poland -

edit: one source actually quotes that residence can be granted to a person who wants to run business in Poland but it didn't state any details

found a webpage with a little more details but I'm too lazy to translate it right now: udsc.gov.pl/cudzoziemcy/obywatele-panstw-trzecich/chce-przedluzyc-swoj-pobyt-w-polsce/zezwolenie-na-pobyt-czasowy/dzialalnosc-gospodarcza/

Language / What is your biggest problem with Polish language? [158]


English is the most to the point language in the world - and if someone says American English is ugly i just shake my head in disbelief

News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]


good question

News / Coal-Powered Poland Refuses to "Go Green". EU Ain't Happy. [304]


you don't see no harm and I see a huge cost - who is going to splash it out?

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


maybe I am an idiot but to my mind unbridled liberalism destroys itself unless there are technological breakthroughs that reshape the economy

News / Polexit? Almost half of the Poles believe that Poland would be better off outside of the EU [548]


Ukranians in Poland are gastarbeiters not refugees (by a humongous majority)