News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


This reminds me of a joke:

A Polish taxi driver looks at his German passenger through the rear view mirror. The German seems upset about something.

- I'm sorry, sir, is everything alright?

- Yes, can you please stop bringing up the war?

- The war? I didn't bring it up, it was you who started.

- No I did not! It was you who brought it up, and you continue to talk about it.

- Goddamit, I did not start it, it was you who invaded first!


Finally you are not discussing Greeks or Martians, and are beginning to address the issue at hand. I like this BB much more!


Pawian is not exactly a good ambassador of Poland...

History / Pol-Shorpy Photo Thread [950]

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Off-Topic / Serbia etc. thread 3 [437]

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Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]


These are the two key things.

In Indonesia, an autocrat backed by the military actually massacred half a million Communist sympathizers. This was done in the space of a few weeks.

In South Vietnam, a dictatorial regime composed of military men killed hundreds of thousands more in extrajudicial killings.

The reason Communist states around the world were so brutal, could very well be because the main exporter of Communism was Russia. In Russia, it took on a severe bent because it was shaped in a context of civil war and famine, and where most of the men in charge had spent a long time either in prison or in the military.

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]

@GefreiterKania

Basically, smart people are dangerous.

It's why one of the first things Mao and Pol Pot did was kill the remaining smart people.

So you should be happy with people like Duda, for example. The amount of damage they can do is limited.

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]


Exceedingly few outside of Western Europe and North America managed it without an autocratic hand.

South Korea did it under their military dictators. Japan under the Emperor. Taiwan under the Kuomintang. Singapore under the Lee family. Chile under Pinochet. And so on, and so forth.

The non-Western "stable democracies" like India did not do so well.

To get the peasants to leave their lands, and herd them into suffocating factories... a lot is required.


Also we must be saved from sons of rich men that travel abroad to study, and then come back home with all sorts of strange ideas. That's one thing in common between folks like Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Fidel Castro, Lenin, Zhou Enlai and so on.

Rich kids, studying abroad, and coming back and staging experiments on the population.

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]

Ivan the Terrible killed untold numbers of innocents to consolidate power over other Russian princes, in the process giving Russia much of its modern territory.

Then, Peter the Great used savage methods to drag the nobility and the people closer towards Europe. They kicked and they screamed, and thought Peter was the Antichrist - but it was probably what Russia needed.

Stalin raped the country, but in twenty years transformed it from a backwards agrarian country into an industrial superpower.

Mao broke China, but reforged it into the powerhouse it is today.

What I'm trying to say is... perhaps this has less to do with Communism, and more with totalitarians on a mission that has no space for consideration of humans.

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]

@GefreiterKania

It would be the AI sending you to the gulag, or maybe using your body to generate electricity in large "farms".

Off-Topic / I am a polish communist. [83]


What is there to discuss, if you haven't said anything remotely interesting?

As is - you seem to be a simple idiot, or a rather weak troll.

What might be an interesting topic, for example... is do modern technological breakthroughs make a centrally planned economy a more feasible goal than in the past?

In the Soviet Union, there was an entire field dedicated to the study of applications of cybernetics in economics.

At the time, it seemed too far fetched to ever be feasible. A fire at a ball bearing plant in Siberia, could create a "Butterfly Effect" type cascade of consequences, that no model could account for - rendering many aspects of planning useless or even harmful.

However, artificial general intelligence, could potentially plan in a way that the Soviet GosPlan could never dream of.

Perhaps Communism's time came too soon, and it will only really take off in the 22nd or 23rd century.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


It's the same in America, so you are in good company :)

Amtrak just might be in worse shape than Deutsche Bahn.

Several times in recent years, my trains were simply canceled. Not delayed, but cancelled. Not because some ship crashed into a bridge in Baltimore, but due to "signal issues", "debris on tracks", "maintenance", etc.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


Who cares about the Greeks?!

Zelensky blew up a pipeline Germany invested tens of billions into, and thrust you into the embrace of American oil companies. This is a big reason why your economy stinks now.

But you want to talk about Greeks?

Stop sending weapons and money to Ukraine, and invest that into making life better for Germans.

You know how much you could do with the $40B Germany has sent to Ukraine? How many schools you could build? How many hospitals? Maybe your roads would start looking like German roads again, and your trains would run on time.

During the recent Euro 2024 football tournament, many visitors were unpleasantly surprised at the condition of Germany's supposedly "superior" infrastructure.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


What?

Did we declare war on Germany?

Did we blow up the pipeline?

Did we force Germany to spend untold billions on supporting deadbeat Ukraine?

Did we force Germany to spend hundreds of billions on rearming itself?

Germany did all these things, because people in Washington told them to. The war ended in 1945, but Germany still can't shake the mentality of a puppet. It didn't have to do any of the things it did.

In fact, I think if it was someone else in power, instead of Merkel or Scholz, like a Schroder or Kohl - we would have a different situation on our hands.

Modern Germany is ruled by Lilliputians.

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]


Serbo-Croat insult battle is next level - this is true. I forgot about them.

To be honest, what Ustase did is probably worse than what OUN-UPA did... so they may have a leg up.


Ukrainians are great at hate. If Bhutan has a happiness index, Ukraine should have a hate index.

We Russians, say about the Ukrainians, that the aphorism that describes them best is - «моя хата с краю». This means, my house is on the end of the street.

Also, «пусть у меня сарай сгорит, лишь бы у соседа корова сдохла». Meaning - "let my barn burn down, as long as the neighbor's cow dies".

The difference between them and us, is we were largely rightless serfs, while they were greedy independent peasants.

Because we had nothing, it was easy for us to be generous.

Ukrainians on the other hand were relatively more wealthy, envious, and covetous.

Their national sport is getting heating up the hate to such a level, that their dips begin to explode sending them into the troposphere. Whoever goes higher wins.

Read the comments in their newspapers. They hate everybody. Their government, their neighbor, their boss, the West, Russia, the Great Horde, and Pope Innocent III.

Such a malcontented bunch.

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]


We can make fun of them so, because we share blood - of course. If some Johnny from England started saying these things about Ukrs tomorrow, I would not like it, certainly.


They are some Frankenstein monster, combining Polish megalomania with Russian dullmindedness. Their language reflects the percentage input of each side.


Well they are quite retarded. How else do you explain that you have a country in the middle of Europe with 44 million people, and a GDP of only $150B. They belong in the same league as Gabon or Honduras, but that is being mean to Gabon and Honduras.

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]

This is too funny...

I just discovered that the Ukrainian factchecking website StopFake.org has written a rebuttal to the claim that ancient Ukraine dug out the Black Sea.

Source: stopfake.org/ru/fejk-ukrainskie-uchenye-schitayut-chto-chernoe-more-vykopali-drevnie-ukry/

Hahaha! Ohohohoho!

I still believe it to be true. Here is the original text, which is quoted around the internet (translated):

"...The Black Sea appeared artificially thanks to the talent and labor of ancient Ukrainians. In ancient times, when our compatriots returned home from distant travels and told about large expanses of water in foreign lands, it was decided to create a sea for themselves. As a result of the heroic labor of more than one generation of your ancestors, a huge lake was dug. Another proof is the accumulation of hydrogen sulfide in the lower layers of this reservoir, which is explained by our ancestors' intensive use of it for washing and bathing..."

So, in brief, the Ukrainians dug out the Black Sea so that they could finally wash their ass.

If they were smart, they would just dig through the Bosporus first, and flood the Black Sea Basin. But because they are Ukr pigdogs with bone in middle of brain, they first dug out the whole sea.

By the way, Ukrs is a real thing. Not something invented by Russian comedians. There are history books published in Ukraine, that claim that the name of the country comes not from "borderland" but from the ethnos of the ancient Ukrs. These ancient Ukrs lived and traded with Ancient Sumeria and Babylon, and had their own calendar based on the menstrual cycle of a goat.

Honestly, if Ukrainians didn't exist, they would have to be invented. A unique nation.

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]


How did you know?

You have also been reading Ukrainian history textbooks for 8th graders?

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]


And so... the masks of Good Samaritans are slowly lifted - revealing the imperialists beneath!

Stop Polonizing Ukrainians and perpetuating cultural genocide against them!

Ukraine is the oldest country in Europe! The Language is the most melodic! The ancestors of modern Ukrainians dug out the Black Sea with their bare hands!

Ukrainians were building magnificent cities while you still roamed the swamps and forests of Białowieża!

Slava Ukraini! Smert Lyakham! Sieg Heil!

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]


I suppose everyone wins.

The Polish budget doesn't have to support the needs of a Ukrainian convict.

Ukraine can mobilize him straight out of jail under their new laws.

So in a way... Zelensky probably wants Ukrainians living in the EU to engage in a massive crime spree.


Is Bloomberg also lying? Are Ukrainian newspapers lying?

I think it may be the first time Zelensky is mentioned, but over the past few years a lot of his ministers have made similar noises. This is an old story with a long background.

It also makes complete sense. Why do you find it so unbelievable that Zelensky would want more taxpayers and more manpower?

News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]


It is because I am not lying. I read about this just today, in Bloomberg.

Countries like Poland and Czech Republic are saying they won't send anyone back as long as the war goes on.

The Czechs even said their construction industry will collapse if they do it.

Source: bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-08-20/ukraine-zelenskiy-wants-refugees-to-return-host-countries-want-them-to-stay

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News / Dirty deeds of foreign guys in Poland [128]

A recent article on the subject:

forsal.pl/kraj/bezpieczenstwo/artykuly/9535266,szokujaco-bezpieczna-polska-lawinowy-wzrost-imigracji-i-silny-spadek.html

Headline reads: "Szokująco bezpieczna Polska: lawinowy wzrost imigracji i silny spadek przestępczości. Fenomen?"

This is for all the people that hate immigrants so very much :)


Disgusting behavior from Poland. When Zelenksy asks Poland to send the men back so they assist in the war effort - Poland says "sorry, no". Because Poland is in desperate need of these working hands.

The Polish government is not stupid, and understands that 80% of Ukrainians in Poland support themselves with wages and pay taxes. It understands that Ukrainians are critical workers in many industries like construction and transportation. So it does not want to give them back to Zelensky.

But if a Ukrainian commits a crime... then "please take him, he is yours". You bastards.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


Wealth is a relative thing.

Last year, Germany's economy was the only one out of the G7 to contract.

In the second quarter of this year it shrank again. The forecast for the entire year is growth of 0.2%. Compare that to US growth of 6% - which is simply in a different league... a different galaxy!

Germany's GDP per person, declined from 89% of the US level in 2017, to 80% in 2023.

Meanwhile, the UK - which was the "Sick Man of Europe" just recently - is having an unexpected growth spurt under Starmer's Labour which places it near the top of Europe in performance. Who could ever believe this, before the war started?

For twenty years Germany seemed absolutely unbeatable. It was bailing out entire countries, seemingly without much strain. It exported more than China, for long periods. Now its clout is rapidly diminishing, and nobody bothers to dispute this.

This has been a huge reversal, and there's no way around it.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


I explained with simple examples how blowing up the pipeline has done zero good for Ukraine.

It did a great deal of good, however, for their primary patron - the United States.

Perhaps this was the nature of the quid pro quo. You help our energy supermajors conquer Europe, and we'll aid you in your war with Russia?

If Zelensky did not blow the pipeline up, the war would be in the exact same place it is at the present moment. It has not changed a single thing, except making Russia and Germany massively poorer, along with a slew of smaller Central European countries.

I don't understand how making Russia and Germany poorer helps Ukraine? Russia will find money for the war in Ukraine - no matter what. Even if it means cutting spending on social programs, and all other expenses.

I suspect we won't have to wait long to see if blowing up the pipeline was a prudent thing to do.

News / Is NORD STREAM dangerous for Poland's natural enviroment? [540]


Germany's economy went from being the engine of all European growth, to one of the worst performing ones in a period of just three years. Now even the UK has an economy in better shape than Germany's. How low the mighty have fallen...

There are a multitude of reasons for this. Among them: a botched post-pandemic recovery, falling exports to China, stupid insistence on avoiding increased debt, structural demographic problems, and underinvestment in infrastructure.

But there is also another very important reason, and that is the loss of access to cheap hydrocarbons from Russia. One example is BASF's chemical complex in Ludwigshafen - which is the largest in the world. It employs 40,000 people directly, but also allows millions of others downstream in the supply chain to produce other goods. After losing access to Russian gas, Ludwigshafen is now on a slow road to collapse. Then there are fertilizer producers. Metallurgists. Even those companies that manufacture inputs used in the renewable energy industry - like Siemens - are suffering from hugely increased energy costs.

What Zelensky and Co did is take bread off the table of the German worker, and then showed up the next day asking for handouts. Because the Germans are big blubbering vaginas - they still gave money to these racketeers.

Poland is also obviously involved. 1000%.

Tusk telling people to shut up, and others saying that those divers should get medals - is a big mistake.

The explosion of the pipeline's most direct result has been handing the European energy market over to the United States, from which they have already earned hundreds of billions of dollars (and people had the balls to accuse us of blowing up our own pipeline for three years!!!!).

It did not stop Russia's invasion. It did not curtail the Kremlin's ability to find money for the war. It has not made Russia more willing to negotiate - but rather the opposite. It played no role in motivating Ukraine's allies to donate funds and weapons.

All it did was p!ss off Germany - Ukraine's largest and most generous ally after the United States. Great job Zelensky!

History / Historical look at various civilisational differences between Russia and the West [159]

@pawian

Not sure how to even react to this gibberish.

Russians are looking for a more stable guarantor than the Kremlin?

I know you think of us as a mafia gang, but on the scale of a continent... but this is too much.

Who will China protect us from? Do we have to transfer all nuclear weapons to China, or will China have a puppet that has 20X more nukes than China itself?

News / If Russia liberate Scotland, what would happen with Polish workers in Britain? [60]

Saw this thread on the main page, and my first reaction was - "WTF". Then I noticed that it was Crow's thread, and immediately regretted my initial skepticism.

While I never considered the possibility of Russia liberating Scotland, and likely 99.9999999% of the rest of the population did not either - now I consider it absolutely necessary.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


Good puppy!

Here, have a treat)

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Welcome to debating with Poles.

History / Why American military aid to Europe and Poland is important to America itself? [227]

@Ironside

Poland is investing mostly in artillery and armor.

To me, it means Poland imagines it will be the battlefield of this future war.

Can you imagine Poland beginning to resemble Ukraine? With no electricity, broken logistical links, and an emigrating population?

I thought Poland might want to escape its historical role, and buy some ungodly amount of precision munitions for an overwhelming preemptive strike?

If you are getting ready to slog it out with Russia conventionally - that's probably a very bad idea.

Food / What exactly is Polish Bread? [91]


Sorry, looked like salo.

In general, your plate looks like a traditional Russian "zakuska" for a good vodka session.

What you are missing is some scallions and herring.

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Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]


No, there's no point in that. It will be tailored for you specifically.