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It absolutely happened, and Poles absolutely have the right to be angry.

It's just that I feel like BB, when people attack him over Hitler. He never defends him, he never says what he did was right - and yet sometimes it feels like he has to answer for the entire Third Reich.

Back on topic, and to Ukraine - they not only won't apologize, they GLORIFY it.

With parades. With fancy funerals. With monuments. With "documentaries" on television.

These are the people you gave so much weapons and money to, so that they could kill more of us. What the hell is wrong with you? Why are you not helping us?

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@Bratwurst Boy

Stalin was a criminal that robbed banks and trains to fill Bolshevik coffers during their underground days. Lenin during this time sat in Switzerland, drinking coffee and writing smart books.

He was brutalized through abusive parents, the Tsar's Okhranka, prisons, the Civil War, and then the Polish Soviet war. If you grew a monster in a laboratory, you could not do better than Stalin.

In his last will and testament, Lenin warned his comrades about Koba's sadistic tendencies.

Through his brutality he emerged on top, and killed every real opponent - from Trotsky to Tukhachevsky.

It's just cruel fate we ended up in the hands of this butcher. He broke my country, and robbed us of everything except our soul.

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On my father's side, my great grandfather was sent to Kemerovo, in Siberia, where he froze to death in a labor camp. The charge was "espionage in favor of Japan". The man had never been to Japan, or spoken Japanese, and had no possible means of contacting them.

His brother, was unceremoniously shot in a MGB basement, and dumped into a pit outside of the city. We only discovered what happened to them around the late 1990s or early 2000s.

All of my grandparents were total orphans.

I don't need you telling me about what a monster Stalin was.

Outside people attacking Russia over Stalin only leads to a reflexive rallying around the flag.

What do you want from me? To tell you that I'm sorry Stalin did these things to your country? Of course I am sorry. Happy?

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Every decent Russian, and absolutely everyone in my circle of acquaintances - without exception - understands this was a terrible crime against the Polish nation.

Maybe some bumpkin out in the sticks, who has never opened a book, and only consumes zombie tv thinks it was justified... but again no decent person in Russia thinks so.

The downgrading of monuments is only because of the present problems in the relations between our countries. It will go back to normal once things quiet down. And even so, I think we shouldn't go low and do such things.


Actually, I stopped raking up this sh*t years ago on this forum, and the only reason I'm doing it now is because Ukraine's moronic foreign minister thrust it back into the spotlight - absolutely unprompted.

If you don't like me talking about this, go and complain to the UA Ministry of Foreign Affairs that they are leading a counterproductive policy.

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Do you see Russian officials saying "we didn't kill enough people in Katyn?"

Do you see Russian ceremonies commemorating the crushing of the Prague Spring or the protests in Budapest?

The only bad thing we do is the recent trend of whitewashing Stalin, but this will pass. People will wake up, and remember again why it is wrong. In any case, Stalin killed more of us than he ever did of you - so we do not need to listen to your lectures. This is our problem, and we will figure it out - without your assistance.

Now compare that to Ukrainians - who live without apology. Like little babies - everything with them has to be forgiven.

So then how are we equally guilty? Where do we glorify crimes and massacres? Show me.

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For bringing strife into our lands, and for murdering countless innocents like cowards.

I don't believe that a son must pay for a father's crimes - but these animals actively embrace that part of their history. They glorify it. Therefore, they are guilty too.

Otherwise who will punish them? The Poles? Hahaha

They sh*t in your plate, and you ask for seconds.

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What sort of choice is that? They ended up in Austria through the Polish partitions.

Nobody ever asked them anything.

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Because everyone must pay their bills.

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Inshallah, we will reach the western regions one day, and deport these cowards to the Arctic Circle so that they may dig metals out of the permafrost with their bare hands.

There, together with the polar bears, they can salute Bandera every day until they turn into icicles.


They never lived with us until after WW1.

They lived in a bubble inside the Austro-Hungarian Empire. They have a different religion - Greco-Catholicism, whereas 85% of the rest of Ukraine are good Orthodox.

They never spoke Russian, but instead their ape language.

They don't understand our culture, and do not respect our history.

They are mutants, aliens from outer space.

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They had a very unique way of fighting against the Soviet Union, which consisted of avoiding all military confrontations with the Red Army and instead focusing on Jews, and Polish women and children.

Once their Fuhrer took a dirt nap in the Reich Chancellery, they spread out into the forests like rats - and didn't come out until they were amnestied.

This is no Taliban, no Vietcong... but rather very pathetic b*tches. The one time they did fight us, as mentioned, they got smashed with a ten ton hammer. They sh*t their pants so hard, they are still cleaning their underwear.

In general, it was a big mistake taking in these Western Ukrainians from Austria-Hungary. Ever since they joined us, they have been poisoning life for everybody else and infecting our very good Ukrainians with their retardation. Should have left them to the Austrians to continue their experiments on their brains.

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I fail to see the connection between being invaded and reaching for the SS?

Do they not have other heroes in their supposedly 1,000+ year history? Why do the heroes have to come from a short period of time during which the country was literally raped?

What surprises me is why we didn't kill every single one of these dogs, and how they managed to survive into the 2000s.

I understand that we could not reach the b*tches that escaped to Canada and Argentina, but why did we not execute every single one that ended up in our hands? It would save us all the problems of today...

F*cking idiot Khrushchev issued them all an amnesty after Stalin died...

At least the KGB took care of Bandera with a nice gift of cyanide gas, but imho every single one of the others should have been shot and nailed to crosses from Kiev to Lviv - so everybody else would know the price of selling out your country.


Of course Paulina will judge somebody for an awkward turn of phrase, but can simultaneously be understanding towards enlisting in the SS. Are you Polish, or what are you?

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Did you ever see Dutch people staging parades for SS Panzer Grenadier Division "Nederland"?

How about Danes and Norwegians - ever see a parade for SS Panzer Division "Wiking"?

Maybe you saw French people parading around in uniforms of the SS Grenadier Division "Charlemagne"?

Even retarded Latvians and Lithuanians don't go around saying it was wonderful how the Germans helped them erase their Jews and Russians.

I hope you are beginning to see my point, and the difference between France, The Netherlands, etc and Ukraine.

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Maybe because their fathers and grandfathers did for 70+ years?

Maybe as memory to the fallen?

Maybe to be decent human beings?

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Because they saw in the Germans an instrument to finally get equal with the Jews, Poles, and Russians - that's why.

They thought they were very clever, and were using the Germans. When in fact the Germans used them like a piece of toilet paper, and then threw them out.


In modern Russia, each time Vlasov's name is mentioned it is immediately mixed with sh*t. He's the excrement of our nation, and the worst low life. I wipe my shoes on the name Vlasov.

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Not only.

It's a spit in the face of the millions of Ukrainians who fought and died as part of the Red Army.

Millions! Versus a few thousand idiots that like to dress up like it's Halloween!

Why are the feelings of millions trampled, to glorify the exploits of traitors and butchers? Collaborationist scum, with no country, no honor, and no shame?

The old veteran from my screenshot on the other page was CRYING when asked about the SS parade. What kind of animal disrespects their elders in such a way?

If I was at that SS veteran's funeral I would take a nice big dump into his coffin, and then pi$s in it for good measure.

The people that should be honored are the Ukrainians in the photos below.

May 9 parade is now permanently cancelled, but SS marches are allowed. This is a sick country.

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Being on PF will age you quickly.

@BB

What do you think about Ukrainians wearing SS uniforms for parades and funerals, while it is illegal in Germany to even fart in the direction of the Third Reich?

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This is some Colombo or Poirot level of deduction. Yes - you are correct!

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Virgin Mary, what did I just read?

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Me and Kania have been waiting all morning to witness your acrobatics. Please don't keep us waiting much longer.

Also, bring Paulina if you can.

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Pawian has no appetite to defend SS Galichina it seems - good!

If you read the posts in this thread from 2013, you can see that Pawian was still a mentally healthy person. Maybe there is hope for him.

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Thanks. I hate audio books, so I will read the PDF instead.


How do you come up with this sh*t? Do you pull it out of your a*s?

According to the Wikipedia article "Soviet Repressions of Polish Citizens (1939-1946)", 150,000 Poles died from all reasons combined.

150,000 is not a small number by any means, but it's in a different galaxy from 6 million.

Source:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_repressions_of_Polish_citizens_(1939%E2%80%931946)#:~:text=An%20estimated%20150%2C000%20Polish%20citizens%20were%20killed%20by%20Soviet%20repressions.

I think the reason for your confusion is the transfer of territories to the Belarusian and Ukrainian SSRs. 13 million people lived on the territories that were transferred, before 1939. A great many of them were Belarusians, Rusyns, Ukrainians, and Lithuanians.

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Special for you, from the Wiki article "Holocaust Victims".

Mind you, this is only the people killed in camps or in so called "special operations". It's not even close to the number who perished in occupied territory in "non exterminative" circumstances, but simply through starvation, or other means.

Basically, during some weeks, Germany would kill more Poles in a routine and boring fashion, than in Katyn.

Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

70.auschwitz.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89&Itemid=173&lang=en

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Photo 1 - Zelensky, a Jew, at the grave of his grandfather Simeon Ivanovich Zelensky. He was a commander of a rifle company of the 174th regiment of the 57th Guards Rifle Division. A decorated soldier, that saw 4 years of combat during the Great Patriotic War.

His grandfather is spinning in his grave knowing that his grandson spits on the memory of millions of Ukrainian veterans who died fighting the scum for whose funerals Zelensky provides the Presidential Regiment.

Photo 2 - a screenshot of a veteran of the Worker and Peasant Red Army being interviewed about the SS Galichina parade. He has tears in his eyes, while he explains how he cannot understand why this scum is being allowed to march around unpunished.

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The Galicians are fast runners.

When they were deployed to their first combat at the Battle of Brody, the division disintegrated within the first week of fighting against Marshal Ivan Konev's 1st Ukrainian Front.

Well, not the first week, but rather within about two days. They engaged in the favorite Ukrainian activity of getting encircled in a pocket. Out of a nominal strength of 11,000 men, only 3,000 escaped encirclement and promptly ran West. The other 8,000 were f*cked with broomsticks and then sent to meet their maker.

From Wikipedia: "By the end of that day, in the face of overwhelming Soviet attacks, the 14th Galician Division as a whole disintegrated."

That's July 20th, 1944. Their first heavy contact was on July 18th. What a mighty division!

As it turned out, fighting the Red Army was not as fun as marching around in parades or engaging in rear anti partisan work.

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2021. Ukraine's Presidential Regiment is used at a funeral of an SS Galichina veteran.

The Presidential Regiment! Full name: 1st SS Presidential Regiment Leibstandarte SS Adolf Zelensky!

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This is no Pol-Shorpy, unfortunately, but... enjoy Pawian:

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They wear SS uniforms, who gives a sh*t about photos?

While they deny Poland exhumations of victims, these apes reburied SS Galichina soldiers in a pompous ceremony with military honors back in 2013.

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Most of the assh0les in Wolyn and Galichina don't bother calling it the 1st Ukrainian Division of the Sich Riflemen of Halychyna. This is more for public officials and schizophrenic Eastern Ukrainians.

The Wolynians and Galicians call things by their proper name.

Photos from last year's march.

Photo 1 - retards carrying a banner with the division's proper name.

Photo 2 - An absolutely marvelous banner that reads: "Our religion is nationalism. Our prophet is Bandera."

Photo 3 - chilling under Lvov's statue to Stepan Bandera.

Photo 4 - a banner that reads "The flame of glory will not be extinguished".

Hey Pawian, did you know there is an annual march in numerous cities and towns commemorating the foundation of the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS? How about that?

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It's ok... next time I will take a shower and be clean of sh*t, while my Ukrainian brothers will be always covered with sh*t.

Plant sh*t seeds, grow sh*t weeds.

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I'm going to continue throwing sh*t onto the propeller of Polish-Ukrainian relations, because it seems this is the fastest way to explain to certain Poles (like Pawian and Paulina) what kind of a story they have got themselves into.

After Kuleba's statements, and the Polish reaction, there is a growing hysteria in Ukrainian media and social networks. Through this, you can see that whatever Kuleba said - it represents the opinion of a very sizable part of the population of the Ukraine (at least those living in the West of the country).

As usual, I'll give you some links to articles so you can go and read the comments for yourself - and not accuse me of being a cherry picking orc.

Gonna give you two flavors, first from a liberal paper, and then from a nationalist website (which happens to be the most read news portal in Ukraine).

Source: eurointegration.com.ua/news/2024/08/30/7193135/

Source: censor.net/ru/news/3507556/tusk_pro_vregulyuvannya_istorychnyh_pytan_mij_ukrayinoyu_i_polscheyu_dlya_chlenstva_v_yes/sortby/tree/order/desc/page/1#comments

For Kania, who can't seem to open comments, I'll provide a screenshot below of the top 3 comments on Censor.

Translated:

#1 "The problems were such - you were killing us, and we were killing you too"

#2 "Perhaps for Ukraine to be admitted to the EU, Poland has to admit its crimes?"

#3 "Well, well, we are waiting for compensation for the pacification of Pilsudski, for the age-old oppression of our church, our language, for the suppression of our popular uprisings, and the list goes on."

As a special bonus, the fifth most liked comment - with 26 likes:

#5 "What questions??? Bandera, Shukhevych, Melnyk and hundreds of thousands more soldiers of the OUN UPA, the 1st Ukrainian Division of the Sich Riflemen of Halychyna, the Roland and Nachtigall battalions - are Heroes of Ukraine, fighters for its freedom and independence against the red-assed, Katsapo-Soviet, Communist-Nazi occupation sh*t and other biological waste!!!"

I presume Poles fall under "other biological waste".

While Ukraine seems to have convinced your government of its eternal mantra of "leave history to the historians", they are in fact using it as cover for the rebuilding of their revisionist narrative of what had happened.

Thank you Poles, that is all. Enjoy sleeping in one bed with these turds.

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