Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [600]


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Wow....the nutters not only lose their heads but also their monies, heh:)

What a sum! According to the Israeli military, $500 million in cash and gold are in a Hezbollah bunker under a hospital in Beirut.....

....The perfidious approach, according to Hagari, is that the mullahs send suitcases full of money and gold by plane to Lebanon and then to the Iranian embassy there. From there, the suitcases go straight into the hands of Hezbollah terrorists . Hezbollah has also opened factories in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen and Turkey. ....

I hope they get them next!

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News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]


True!

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]


It doesn't count because they don't have to. The Japanese won't want them to leave, as don't want the Germans around Ramstein! :) They are not seen as occupants or enemies...


I still can't get over the fact that the West/NATO/Germany seemingly convinced Ukraine to give up their sole weapon which would have hindered the russian invasion in the first place...any invasion from anybody actually...their nukes!

They did it because of the promise of safety, of support from the West....and maybe even a NATO membership, sometime later.

It now seems it was a bad deal...the other option would be an Ukraine with Nukes but out of NATO....with hindsight definitely better!

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Na ja....lets see....Okinawa is like the german Ramstein, I guess....that doesn't count....Cuba is struggling and really don't doing well, we might see them shedding their dictatorship still during our lifetimes...that would make Gitmo then more like the cuban Okinawa/Ramstein...

Western troops in arab regions is a different beast altogether!

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Frankly an important question!

If it would had been truly about liberation of the Ukrainians from Nazi rule....taking out the most important brains and supplanting them with more open ears (open to Moscow that is) should have proven alot less costly in men and material and probably faster successful too.

So why hadn't he used that lane? After all alot countries (Germany surely and now the US) are already blaming Putin with influencing their people's opinions, helping the opposition and trying to shove things his way in a rather more underhanded and subtle manner.

There is IMHO actually only one possible reason...it truly is about territory....to expand your borders and gain whole cities just isn't possible with pure "influencing"....for that you need an army, right?

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]

....they should do it as the Mossad does....identify the main heads who are pulling the strings and take them out....one by one....one after the other....they should know that every action will cost them dearly....without having to invade and set army against army!

History / Information required on location of WW2 prisoner of war working parties ( arbeits kommandos ) in Poland [15]


Fate! :)


Hmm.....I read the camp was called "Britenlager", because of the high number of british POWs....did you look already into the british archives too? Probably...but here are still some more links....

commandoveterans.org/stalag_v111b_344

discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C805767

pegasusarchive.org/pow/S8Bt/cSt_8Bt_RedCross14Sep44.htm

bbc.co.uk/history/ww2peopleswar/stories/63/a3521963.shtml

...they might have more resources to look into your family member, especially if you have the names and numbers, also maybe contacting the Russians...because of the high number of Brits this camp seems actually quite well known!

Good luck! *waves*

History / Information required on location of WW2 prisoner of war working parties ( arbeits kommandos ) in Poland [15]

Here is some more info....even with a foto from some prisoners.....tell me if you have all that already...have to go now! :)

deutsch.wikibrief.org/wiki/Stalag_VIII-B

For some info links about the prisoners:

google.com/search?newwindow=1&sca_esv=808cf4c753ad636e&sxsrf=ADLYWIJX-YfNcH37xRg0LNYXS7m_mBS1Fw:1729365130369&q=stalag+Stalag+VIIIB+prisoner+list&spell=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiI8KCSk5uJAxUNS_EDHV8KIfEQBSgAegQIChAB&biw=1238&bih=644&dpr=1.5

History / Information required on location of WW2 prisoner of war working parties ( arbeits kommandos ) in Poland [15]

Did you already also have the Info from the Lexikon der Wehrmacht über den Standort Königshütte?....of course in German but online translation is possible:

lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Kasernen/Wehrkreis08/KasernenKoenigshuette-R.htm

....and some numbers for the files:




tenhumbergreinhard.de/deutsche-kriegsgefangenenlager/deutsche-kriegsgefangenenlager-k.html

You could need them to ask more efficiently....

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [600]


They would have better chances if they would go for peace with Israel...no more bombing...trusted with souvereignity and independence....they should try it some time!

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [600]


So....defending your people against baby killers and kidnappers who break into your homes to rape and maim is now equal to genocide?

You know Pawi, recently it has become ridiculous....everybody and their grandmom can now (and often enough is) being called a Nazi...even if it is only a political opponent!
Remember Putin calling the ukrainian gov Nazis and justifying his invasion with wanting to liberate them?

Maybe we should end that....it is kind of a worthless insult now! (Contrary to real proof like pictures!)

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Pawi....you won't see any Jews/Israelis with Nazi-signs....but Arabs....especially Palis:

alamy.com/members-of-the-palestine-nazi-party-with-their-swastika-flag-image502433002.html

x.com/AnneBayefsky/status/1711138269746901169

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History / Historic Photos about Poland with Context [37]

....Volleyball...really? 😯 Na ja...well...we got a polish trainer....so...😎

History / Historic Photos about Poland with Context [37]

I HAD to google that....of course....and that what I found...ahem....*drumroll*....the geographical centre(s) of Europe:



This map shows in red points some of the locations of claimants to the title of Centre of Europe: Dilove (Rakhiv, Ukraine), Krahule (or Kremnické Bane, Slovakia), Dresden and Kleinmaischeid (Germany), Toruń and Suchowola (Poland), Bernotai, or Purnuškės (Lithuania)

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_midpoint_of_Europe

(...I never heard of Kleinmaischeid before, though, heh:)

We should our footie teams let play it out!

History / Information required on location of WW2 prisoner of war working parties ( arbeits kommandos ) in Poland [15]


If it's about a translation Google would do a good first try for the whole website:

de-m-wikipedia-org.translate.goog/wiki/Kopalnia_W%C4%99gla_Kamiennego_Kr%C3%B3l?fbclid=IwY2xjawF_loBleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHV1Z5cdOJ0fwafKEgXZaHLIhWtDYq0CP9cWAFO19NIv5H6f0gru2MOBuVQ_aem_mWPZ0buFUuu1hJpDUKtaRw&_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]


Is Israel to blame for that or the murderers from the Hamas?

spiegel.de/panorama/hamas-opfer-carolin-bohl-ihre-mutter-will-nach-israel-a-90ee4b8d-c822-49a8-8c28-dc903432aa51

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]


Do they?

They throw their easy earned oil money onto their own tribe members, whose tribal chief is god-like.....everybody else, doing the real works, is more or less a foreigner and a slave....and that was that!

Do you call that "function efficiently"?

If so, then why all the fuss about democracy and peoples rights?

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Nah...not only!

In the 20th century, approximately 900,000 Jews migrated, fled, or were expelled from Muslim-majority countries throughout Africa and Asia. Primarily a consequence of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War, the mass movement mainly transpired from 1948 to the early 1970s, with one final exodus of Iranian Jews occurring shortly after the Islamic Revolution in 1979-1980. An estimated 650,000 (72%) of these Jews resettled in Israel.[1]....

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_the_Muslim_world

The Arabs didn't want to live with their Jews....but they don't allow them their own state either....they just want them dead!

....The first large-scale exoduses took place in the late 1940s and early 1950s, primarily from Iraq, Yemen, and Libya. In these cases, over 90% of the Jewish population left, despite the necessity of leaving their assets and properties behind.[4] Between 1948 and 1951, 250,000 Jews immigrated to Israel from Arab countries.[5] In response, the Israeli government implemented policies to accommodate 600,000 immigrants over a period of four years, doubling the country's Jewish population.[6]

Without an Israel...where would they had gone? Back to Europe? After the Holocaust?

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You mean that seriously!

It's true that the West during the Cold War supported everybody and their grandmom in the hope to get/keep an ally in the conflict with the soviet Empire.
The East did the same, btw....proxy wars everywhere.

But that is now over since 30 years...a whole new generation has been born and grew up without this conflict....all these current terror organizations are wholly religious! That's the only thing left for them since communism has been proven the great loser!

The today's protestors and murderers kill and destroy in the name of Allah...not in the name of socialism, freedom or a better world for their people!

Since at least the 1990s, Islamist terrorist incidents have occurred around the world and targeted both Muslims and non-Muslims.[4] Most attacks have been concentrated in Muslim-majority countries,[5] with studies finding 80-90% of terrorist victims to be Muslim.[6][7][8] The annual number of fatalities from terrorist attacks grew sharply from 2011 to 2014 when it reached a peak of 33,438, before declining to 13,826 in 2019.[9] As of 2015, four Islamic extremist groups - Islamic State, Boko Haram, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda - were responsible for 74% of all deaths from terrorism.[10][11] In some of the worst-affected Muslim-majority regions, these terrorists have been met by armed, independent resistance groups.[12] Islamist terrorism has also been roundly condemned by prominent Islamic figures and groups.[13][14][15]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_terrorism

It's all about religion now!!!

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]

....that's a fight the muslims must fight themselves, we can't help them to reform their religion, bring back freedom to their societies....

But what we should and have to do is take care that no other secular, free, western countries end up like Lebanon even if that means to stop importing more and more of these religious nutters from these regions under the disguise as "refugees".

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So true!



Today unbelievable....hidden under black sacks....as they would have to stay, even if today Israel would vanish from the ME...

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The pics I have seen where from the 70's....as far as I know Israel had been founded in 1948.....

Before it became a city synonymous with urban disasters, conflict and chaos, Beirut was a colourful, prosperous city known as the Paris of the Middle East.

Between 1955 and 1975, in its Golden Age - after gaining independence from the French but before civil war erupted - the Lebanese capital was a cultural and financial hub for the region.

It was a cosmopolitan mecca revered for its rich culture, French architecture, world-class food, fashion, art and glamorous lifestyle offerings that lured curious tourists and high-flying celebrities, alike, to its shores.

Luxury hotels and clubs dotted throughout the city made Beirut a "jet-setter's playground, with a social scene that rivalled its European counterparts", Vogue wrote.

The most famous luxury hotel, the Hotel Saint-Georges, played host to Hollywood icons like Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton, Marlon Brando, and French starlet Brigitte Bardot, and royals like King Hussein of Jordan, and the Shah of Iran and his wife Princess Soraya....

thenightly.com.au/world/how-beirut-was-once-known-as-the-paris-of-the-middle-east-before-it-came-to-a-brutal-end-in-1975-civil-war-c-15605589

..Hamra Street was likened to the Champs-Élysées of Beirut, lined with fashion stores, theatres, restaurants, cafes, and hotels visited by artists, poets, writers, and intellectuals.

There were more than a dozen cinemas on Hamra Street alone - including the famous Eldorado, the Picadilly, and the Versailles - cementing Beirut's title as the cinema capital of the region....

Maybe I should have more explicitely said: The Palis happened!

...But those glittering 20 years came to a brutal end in 1975 when civil war broke out and tore the city, and country, apart.

Over the next 15 years, about 150,000 people would be killed - or presumed dead after being kidnapped or disappeared - and almost one million people would flee Lebanon.

Beirut would be split into hostile territories along the Green Line, the battleline that ran through the middle of the city where Christian militias (to the east) exchanged fire with Palestinian and Sunni militias (to the west).

photorientalist.org/exhibitions/lebanon-technicolor-growing-golden-age/article-2/

News / Polish military contingent in Lebanon. [184]

I've see images from the-before-Lebanon....it looked like a paradise....beautiful with people looking and behaving like Westerners....women with free hair and bathing suites....laughing....enjoying the sun....the "Paris of the Middle East"....

What happened? Islam happened!

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [600]

...and I guess he imagined the consequences totally differently, heh:)

Off-Topic / 75 Years of Israel and the War - part 3 [600]

The ape-eared monster of the October-massacres is truly dead!
Congrats Mossad! Nobody escapes you!!! :)
[graphic pic] polishforums.com/user_files/uploaded/88656/1997066_1_o.jpg

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Now thats an interesting thought....changing/adapting one or two of these age old iron laws and making them fit for our time!

There will be Civil War over this....

News / Poland and Germany should unite, says Lech Walesa [113]


Yeah....that becomes some thing of a feature of our gov....next good example the european migrant policy....I can so understand when foreigners are fed up with us....if it's any consolation, many Germans are too!

Maybe Walesa was right....we should unite, just only under polish say! 🤓 *runs*

News / Poland and Germany should unite, says Lech Walesa [113]


Definitely! *nods*


Still....not a real consolation fo the victims family...even as you can here also say that many won't be alive anymore.

But where do you draw the line for a just judgement? The age of the criminal? How much time has passed?