News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


....if it's the natural advantages of the older members, especially the founding members....yeah, they exist. You must'n forget that East-Germans like me are closer to Poland and other Eastern-Block members than West-Germans.

Many things that happened to Poles happened also to East-Germans...there are reasons the AfD is that strong in the former GDR-Territory, but still...I wouldn't call that rigged.

Especially not in the EU councils, where everyone has the same vote. It just needs more time and experiences and work to catch up to nearly 40 years more time for connections and networkings, IMHO!


There is only one way to go....look for supporters, develop the needed legal things and bring that cases to the voting. If you can convince enough others it will go through...

I don't know how these procedures should/could be rigged or changed!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


You mean "my way or the highway"?

Super powers can maybe act like this....not middle sized countries. We need to work for it....search for support....build alliances....make compromises..... For us it's more like "if you scratch my back i'll scratch yours".

For that the EU is the best place available....all together, constant meetings....every country has the same vote. Without the EU nobody would even ask for your opinion!


That voting system is actually truly a topic for discussion! Important decision need unanimity. That means a country can veto decisions, hence blocking the whole process, like Hungary did with EU funds for Ukraine.

There are many voices who want to change that to majority voting.....

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Many agreeable things you said....and I said before many, many Europeans see it the same way.

But a Polexit would not change anything, nor would a Dexit....as the Brexit has proven!

The EU is not an alien thing forced on us by some monarch or dictator, it is made up by it's member states. Even the far right speaks no longer of "...exits" but tries to win elections at home and builds support groups in Brussels to change the things from the inside....hence the importance of such things like the last european elections.

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Voting system
How does the Council vote?

Depending on the issue under discussion, the Council of the EU takes its decisions by:

simple majority (14 member states vote in favour)
qualified majority (55% of member states, representing at least 65% of the EU population, vote in favour)
unanimous vote (all votes are in favour)

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consilium.europa.eu/en/council-eu/voting-system/

Every member state has the same vote, one...be it Germany or be it Poland!

Poland could become a big player, if it tries and works for his interests from the ground up for supporters, networking and such....things are already changing, maybe slowly but surely!

I never knew what the PiS was doing in Brussels...they had years to move things there...did they actually achieve something at all? Do you have more infos on that?

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Not for Germany.....it has been a shock for the establishment!

Far right parties have never made it in the two-digit zone before ..it was something german-specific, due our Nazi-past.


Yeah well...what do you expect? A revolution? A Putsch? It's the slow, sure way of democracy...fighting every election for the certain percents more which will give you power....

Not to mention Macron, who might see it differently, otherwise he wouldn't had called for new elections, risking his far right adversaries taking over Paris, very soon!


Okay Iron, what are your ideas?

You have a country, or two, which made the EU working for them....you have a country (you) which is kind of pissed and jealeous, because they feel left out. You had even a party ruling for a long time who embodied that feeling (PiS)....seemingly though even with all their political power and influence they couldn't change it for the better for Poland.

It's probably not working to demand from the members who use the EU for their advantages to give that up freely...

So, what would you do? How would a Poland look like which you would agree with....what exactly would need to be changed? Just blaming Germany all the time is not getting you anywhere!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]

wrong thread:)

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


....it's rather a "I don't care!"

And why should they if all is perceived running well? Most people are not naturally interested in politics, only want to be left alone, living their lives....


Thing is it didn't start that big...it has been building up over many years...the turning point, where it becomes to much/to many, is different for many people.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


.....probably feeling no symptoms?

Leftism/Wokism is only something if all runs well....if people feel good, or at least not threatened by this crisis or another....it's only human!

People are learning that in a crisis, when they need to pull together, it's back to nationalism...to the common roots....


?

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


.....I would say the contrary is happening! Did you follow the last european elections?

The nationalist parties gained nearly everywhere, also in Germany!

In Germany the AfD would be your party, but I don't know how a nationalist german party would make things better for Poland in the EU?

And also....the EU is not a Germany-only game but with many players....to blame it all on Germany alone leaves everybody else in a sweet, flawless spot, doesn't it!

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


....no....that conclusion of yours....would "agreeable" have been a better choice of words?

I can't help it but it surely seems that this "Europa über alles" has been a kind of a sham....but then....it delivered for Germans for decades....

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Acceptable....

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]

....a blonde maybe? :)

Depends....is the German a Leftie?

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Okay....agreed! :)

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Nothing!

Germany was just completely supplanted by Europe...as in "Europa first".....

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]

Really Milo?

Wouldn't you hate the return of a "Germany First" arrogant, egotistical, super proud German?

Be honest! ;)

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Since the loss of a World War under that motto?

That history put Germany, especially West-Germany, into a different corner than all other countries, but I guess that age ends now too...

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]

...you could call them also nationalistic and socialistic....the "Germany first" slots well with the AfD, they should have no problems with each other in many questions.

In others they will differ though....the AfD is more the party of the working tax payer if you so want, less for social support, regulations and such....

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]

The development is surely going that way....

The LINKE (former WASG and PSD) leaves a void....and the SPD never really took roots in the East in the first place.

The main difference could and probably will make the BSW! I see her steadily in the sure two-digit-area in the coming elections...the AfD moving into a kind of East-CDU (before the left turn with Merkel, much more conservative and old school).

Even coalitions and alliances will be probably possible...especially in the immigration questions.

History / Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland ? [266]


....na ja....fasting sometimes can be healthy....but forced all the time? In the middle ages heavier people had been viewed as healthy and rich!

You can't please everybody! *shrugs*

History / Why Was D-Day So Significant for Poland ? [266]

....I guess the Vietnamese eat mostly still normal smaller portions, less processed food, less sugary stuff?

USians and Europeans eat mostly crap and to much of that, that probably is the reason!

Okay....back to the thread topic!

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


Okay....that was a special situation....Russia was under attack!

But shouldn't a patriot try to make his country somewhat better?

He knew how Stalin raped and terrorized the country, the people, the mass murder...he suffered himself!

Wouldn't it had been more patriotic to end Stalin? To end that destruction? At least to try?

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


You forget that there had been resistance, even armed....the anti-communist "Whites", or even later the Vlasov-army.

And on the other hand there are other examples of whole peoples cowered in fear by so much brutality (Khmer).

That doesn't mean it's the culture!

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

....and still he kept on giving!

Stalin just didn't deserve that kind of loyalty!

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


Thank you.....*sniffles and wipes*

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


*starts crying*

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


Really?

So....I would probably end up actually saying:

Schischanowski

Unheard "K"....

That I could manage! :)

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]

Wow! :)

....again learned something new today....

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


So....like:

Kri-schi-schiv-onovski

?

History / Russian Greatness - and its Polish Contributors [77]


What is it with these Poles and their hate of vowels..... :)

How do you speak that?

History / Did Poles living in Germany support Hitler's rise to power before World War II? [149]

.....I dunno....I never heard anybody saying anything about Poland, seriously!

But frankly I can't imagine that....pro christian european heritage, against leftist internationalism and open borders, against Islam, against illegal immigration...against woke Brussels forcing their rules on souvereign govs.....I could guess there are lotsa more agreements than not!

Oh, you mean "left" newspapers....yeah well....I guess that hate will be mutual! :)

The one big point of discontent could be the stand about the war in the Ukraine....

News / Polish PM Tusk- dictator or not? What Poles think? [455]

.....if that wasn't THE finger to the establishment then I dunno what is!

The gov has still two years to change things and the mood...at least in Germany....France is done!

Truly interesting times!