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BS. PiS was not there in the operating room. The doctors were and turned Euro weasels.


Brilliant. Better late than never to help reduce that carbon footprint.
BTW, I heard they make great guns in Radom.

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Hey, man-child, did you read THAT?

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Good. Say thank you to all those who cheered lockdowns and printing "free money".
BTW, Poland is a democracy, and printing money to keep people happy for a moment is legal, isn't it?


Calling deficits "budgets" should be subject to the death penalty.

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...unlike the leftists and the BBC where every item is vetted and triple-checked or heads are rolling...

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I see. When the leftists want their leftist plans implemented, a referendum is good. To close the borders and stop the hordes - a referendum is bad. Real baaad.

Did I get it right?

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Based on Step 1 and Step 2, I thought what the hell happened to Bobko. Then came Step 3 and the nightmare was over. What a relief...
You didn't mention their boyish butts and missing eyelashes.

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In the minds of mindless leftists, everything is the fault of PiS and other conservatives. And if you are a patriot...Oh my God! You are Hitler's evil twin!


I see you and I are eating in the same kitchen...

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...then the wise voters unelect the ruling party. See how simple democracy is?

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How about filing an emergency petition to proceed with saving her life and to hell with everything else - including any legal ambiguities...
Here, hospitals do it routinely when some Jesus freak parent refuses treatment for the child on the "religious" grounds. I wouldn't be surprised if some judges were dragged from bed in the dead of night for this reason.

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No, he thinks that in a democracy, the ruling party and those who made them the ruling party are morally responsible for what that ruling party does.

What I see here is a lame attempt to smear PiS as if Poland were a dictatorship.

To my credit and consistently with my political genius, I blame and bi*tch about the American moron voters more than the US Bolsheviks under the rule that in a democracy stupid voters get stupid results - the results they so richly deserve.

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PiS was elected democratically in a democracy and according to the democratic rules. Whatever PiS does is, therefore, the will of the people.

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Anything if you are a leftist.


Of course, it does.
You were correct about the doctors who forgot who their client was. It was the woman, for crying out loud, not her "fetus", husband or uncle.

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That's why I like my binary, black-and-white approach to almost everything. I hate ambiguities and uncertainty.
So, I will say it again: a woman's life first and nothing else on the table.


Yes, but not because they were Catholics but in spite. They had to fight their internal demons first, win, and then come out in force to win again.


That does not mean our obligation to help her abort. I have a right to shoot myself but that does not mean the state must give me a loaded gun.

I have a right to cut off my left arm but that does not mean that the procedure must be allowed just because I found a willing doctor.

So what about that "my body my choice" rule?

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Most people instinctively cling to power hoping for safety and crumbs. Later, they find out they are the crumbs.


Same as anti-USSR. A very healthy attitude.

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OK, I am one who will read what you want to say on the subject and will respond in kind. Go ahead...

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Not only the argument but the style, the paragraphs, and the care you took to make reading your post a positive experience.
As far as PiS, I would support the Satanists if they could make leftists' heads explode. As far as PiS policies and politics, having hit the bottom with the American leftist morons aka Democrats, PiS is way up there on the brilliance scale.

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Other than that, do you have any other ideas regarding the subject matter?

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Good. I mean the outrage, not her death.

I cannot even imagine how it must feel knowing that my wife is near death but some as*hole law prevents some moron doctor from saving her life. The life-saving exemption is so non-negotiable that it takes my breath away just the thought that laws and the people who pass them can be so stupid.


These are the moments when I am not only proud to be an atheist but I honestly hate the believers and all that theological crap they bring with them to society. You want to believe? Fine. Your basement is a very good place.

So right now my anger is your fault... Just kidding...

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Good to know. I was not trying to imply that the doctors were negligent or that the hospital was slow responding. My purpose was to show where I stand in any conflict where her health is involved. She - first and nothing beyond that. No laws, no traditions, no church or Jesus.


All accredited hospitals should meet minimum specs to get the license to open the door - heart monitors for the woman and her baby included.

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Under these conditions, there is no such thing as "the next day". She and the baby should be under constant monitoring and the moment the baby's heart stops she should be on the way to the operating room. Hospitals are 24/7/365 operations.

I still am puzzled by how this case has anything to do with the abortion laws in Poland. Any uncertainty should be resolved strictly in her favor and their primary mission to save her life. Polish abortion laws should matter as much as the drinking age in Alaska.

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If the woman's physical health is on the line, nothing should matter - including "fetus" viability.

As far as that "my body my choice" line...Yes to both but the medical licensing system is not. It's ours and we, through the "democratically elected representatives", decide which medical procedures are legal and which are not. For example: amputating legs and arms for no medical reason is not.

I cannot walk into a hospital to have even my little toe cut off - even if I pay for it. If I insist, they will call for a padded wagon.

So much for that bs "my body my choice" claim.

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Do EVERYTHING to save her life. Cut, drill, remove, and abort. No exceptions, no waiting, no howevers, and no yeahbuts.
I cannot be any clearer.

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Writing laws by copying the four words on a screaming woman's top is as stupid as it gets. Sure, it's your body and your choice - not to fu*ck around drunk. If you get pregnant, consider this as a natural consequence.

Rape changes things a bit but not much unless she reports it to the cops and immediately goes to the nearest ER. "He raped me four months ago" = tough sh*it. There are many couples waiting to adopt.

That leaves incest and detectable defects. Abort as soon as possible.
Physical health of the woman - priority one and nothing else matters. Her feelings - zero relevance.

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OK, leftists and feminists, here is your opportunity to design your pro-choice act.

1. Unconditional or for a specific reason?
2. How many weeks into pregnancy?
3. How many abortions in 5 years for each woman?
4. How many abortions in a lifetime?
5. Who will pay?
6. Is sperm donor's consent required?
7. Should there be a nationwide limit on abortions?
8. If yes to 7, what is the limit in percent of all pregnancies?
9. Who will pay if there are medical complications?
10. Who will pay for psychological treatment?
11. What is the impact on society if the answer to 7 is no?

I am assuming that the average leftist pro-choice brain is capable of more than just "I am pro-choice".

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The answer to your question is in the quote marks around leaders. Other than that, good post.

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Quoting from Wikipedia on the subject of IPV (Intimate Partner Violence):

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_violence_against_men

The survey found 11.6% of women and 12% of men had experienced some kind of IPV in the last twelve months, also 4.6% of men and 3.8% of women had experienced "severe" IPV.

the National Comorbidity Study of 1990-1992 found 18.4% of men and 17.4% of women had experienced minor IPV, and 5.5% of men and 6.5% of women had experienced severe IPV...

In England and Wales, the 1995 "Home Office Research Study 191" found that in the twelve months prior to the survey, 4.2% of both men and women between the ages of 16 and 59 had been assaulted by an intimate...

The Canadian General Social Survey of 2000 found that from 1994 to 1999, 4% of men and 4% of women had experienced IPV in a relationship in which they were still involved, 22% of men and 28% of women had experienced IPV in a relationship which had now ended, and 7% of men and 8% of women had experienced IPV across all relationships,...

The first two stats are from the US.

Yeah, those poor abused women...Sure.

Oops, I am so sorry, I forgot that humans living in Poland are completely different. I mean men are from Hell and women are from Heaven.

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The worst way to pass laws is when it's in response to a sob story. Good laws are based on statistics, not individual dramas or rights. The US did it almost 50 years and 50 million unborn babies back. The result: 30 million illegals - to provide the missing "workers".

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And constructive... Let's see if you and other "feminists" can offer the specifics for the final version of the abortion law for Polish women. Let's call it Pawian Abortion Law - PAL. So, here we go...

Under PAL, abortions will be allowed as follows:

1. Unconditional or for a specific reason?
2. How many weeks into pregnancy?
3. How many abortions in 5 years for each woman?
4. How many abortions in a lifetime?
5. Who will pay?
6. Is sperm donor's consent required?
7. Should there be a nationwide limit on abortions?
8. If yes to 7, what is the limit in percent of all pregnancies?
9. Who will pay if there are medical complications?
10. Who will pay for psychological treatment?

OK, leftists and feminists, here is your opportunity to make your views known and to advance feminist movement.

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No. My post, a-hole.


This case has nothing to do with women's rights and everything to do with that Poles are morons and pass laws that tie doctors' ability to save patient's life as priority one - a man or woman.

I had a chance to test how stupid Poles are when I walked into a hospital just to find out if they would treat me after being hit by a car while jogging. No, not without being paid first, was the answer. But I have travel insurance...Sorry, payment first. I guess Poles jog with wads of cash in their shorts...

That was on Saturday and after only two days in Poland. The next day, I was on my way back to the USA where sanity is a lot more common.

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I forgot to add "dumb". Quoting from calvertjournal.com/articles/show/12301/poland-protests-women-rights-feminist-groups-organisations

Misconceptions about menstruation were also proven to be rife, with 25 percent of women surveyed saying they thought it was impossible to get pregnant during their periods. A further 21 percent said that menstruating women should not bake cakes or pickle cucumbers.

I thought that living in caves with bats is no longer legal in Poland.

I finally got the full list of rights Polish women want:

1. Abortion.
2. Abortion.
3. Abortion.
4. Abortion.

Hey, pawian, it wasn't too long, was it?