History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


I'm not sure that that is the actual reason.

Personally, I think there are no bodies left there - I've said this in the past. Volyn and Galicia have been electing ultranationalist public officials since the early 90s. I wouldn't be surprised if they already "recycled" the dead bodies at some construction site.

However, that's just my personal conspiracist take.

In their public discourse amongst themselves, where they have less fear of being watched, still nobody ever mentions "fear of being embarrassed". Perhaps they should, but they don't.

Instead, the accent is always on "what will we get, if we allow them to come and exhume?".

It's what I wrote before, in regards to Ukrainians showing their true face by trying to engage in a "trade" over corpses.

They think, in their lumpen brain: "We let the Lyakhs take their bodies - they promise to help us get into the EU. Quid pro quo."

They don't understand how this makes them be in the same club as Hamas or Boko Haram. You know, as Pawian says - they need some more decades to mature as a state.

They see that Hezbollah can trade the corpse of a dead IDF soldier for 1,000 jihadists sitting in Israeli jails - and they think, "The Poles are also bleeding heart suckers, it would be foolish to forego asking for dividends from this trade."

Maybe they are even right... You saw what Sikorsky said - "These people have descendants... and they vote in elections. So the question is political."

That is, if it was a PO government which finally "bent" the Ukrainians to agree to the exhumations that would be a win for PO. If PO cannot achieve this, but PiS can - then it is a win for PiS. The Polish government could quietly promise the Ukrainians help in other departments, if the Ukrainians quietly agree to allow the exhumations.

So maybe their terrorist tactics are not so myopic as they seem.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

My favorite part of this discussion, is when Sikorsky says "The bodies must be exhumed and properly buried. Do you agree, yes or no?"...

... and the Ukrainian journalist answers along the lines of "I certainly cannot agree that Bandera and Shukhevych are not heroes!".

Hehehehe, and then Pawian tries to sell me some sh*t about Russian imperial propaganda!

This is a journalist for "Ukrainska Pravda"! The most well respected newspaper in Ukraine! With a very liberal and pro-Western bias!

I did not find you a quote from some Banderite living in a cave under Lvov, but from one of the most "European" of "European" Ukrainians.

Know who you are dealing with - baboon...

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]

As promised in the "Polish Aid to Ukraine" thread, I'm posting here the parts of the interview Radoslaw Sikorsky gave to Ukrainska Pravda, that cover the controversy around the Wolyn and Galicia massacres.

The translation is from a Ukrainian transcript, where I primarily used Google Translate, with additional minor corrections made by me.

The journalist's questions are italicized, and Sikorsky's answers are in bold.

Attaching link to the full video in English (it was conducted in English), below. Unfortunately, I could not find a ready made English transcript - so apologies for the lengthy copy-paste in lieu of a link.

1) - Finally, let's talk about history. Can we agree on a resolution to our dispute? Are we moving forward in our dialogue?

- Something really needs to happen - we need to stop playing politics on this issue.

There are painful moments in the history of every country. Every nation has done things that we are not very proud of. Here, every nation does things differently. But at the same time, it is a Christian duty to bury the dead.

I don't know how much Ukrainian society knows about what happened in Volyn. What happened was that the Ukrainian resistance of that time gave the order for an ethnic cleansing of the Polish population of Volyn. This ethnic cleansing took place due to large-scale massacres. Between 80 and 120 thousand people died, were killed.

Of course, there were Polish countermeasures. But the initiators were the Ukrainians, and the bulk of the victims were Polish residents of Volyn.

We do not want to make politics out of this. But for Poland, this is an acute political issue, because these Poles have descendants. The entire population of these territories was deported to Polish territory.

These people have relatives who vote in elections. Therefore, this is a political issue.

The victims of this massacre must be buried in a Christian manner. That is all we ask for.

2) - In Ukraine, Volyn is known. But there is another view: that this is a political dispute, although it should be dealt with by historians.

- Yes, when the victims are buried in a Christian manner, then it will be the historians' business. But first, they need to be exhumed and buried. Do you agree or not?

3) - I certainly cannot agree with the statements made in Poland that with Bandera and Shukhevych Ukraine will not become a member of the EU. History is complex, and for Ukrainians these people are heroes. Does this mean that if you stick to your position, and we stick to ours, then the road to the EU is closed for us?

- Each country has the right to its own interpretation of history.

That is why, for example, Poland and Germany created a commission to write history textbooks, in particular school textbooks, in which we and the Germans agree at least on the facts.

And the fact is that Bandera's organization - although I understand that he himself was in a concentration camp at the time - ordered the mass extermination of civilian Poles.

4) - The question is, can we get into the EU by glorifying these people?

- It is you who ask this question, not me.

And I say that you will need friends. You need them now. And you will need them in the process of joining the EU.

And we ask you to respect our dead. I do not think that is too much to ask.

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Do you understand what you just wrote?

Do you understand what I wrote?

Get out of the UK, you dirty parasite. I'm in the US on a work permit. I have no residency and no passport. I contribute every day through money invested, asking nothing in return. No social security (money stolen from me, pretty much), no Medicare/medicaid, no Obamacare... nada, zip, nothing. I pay to maintain their poors.

News / Poland says no to flood of Immigrants [670]


The US is a country created by and for immigrants. It has a problem in the present with illegal migration.

Meanwhile, the UK has been mainly English, Welsh, Scottish, and Irish throughout most of the past 1,500 years.

Now, a large portion of it is Bangladeshi, Pakistani, West Indian, and Indian.

One country was always based on immigrants, while the other has been rapidly shifting only within the past 70 years.

This doesn't mean I feel bad for you. It's the least you deserve after raping those countries for centuries.

Plus - aren't you a plastic Brit yourself, or a plastic Pole - I'm confused? What are you complaining about? Are you trying to get deported?

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


... and you write like an English Jaroslav Hašek.

Simple and lively language, often with elements of folk humor and a biting sarcasm - and always pleasant to read.

I developed my writing primarily when I had to write legal opinions for my boss, during summer internships. There, it was important to convey the essential facts, in clear and concise terms, but also in a convincing way.

The same when I wrote short articles for some publications about the goings on in the CIS region.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


What?

I read Pasternak and Nabokov - in their own translation. That is, first in Russian and then in English.

They wrote better English than most Englishmen.


What kind of masochist do you think I am?

If I were a professional propagandist, then PF would be a bad place to hone my skills away from the sunlight. The people here are in no way representative of the wider masses, but instead a collection of exquisite oddballs.

A good propagandist, has to be able to produce such content which will convince the widest cross section of society. It need not be clever, or nuanced - but there have to be certain elements - and testing those out on PF's users would not be practical.

Moreover writing that kind of effective propaganda for the social media age is incredibly tedious work, which dulls the mind.

P.S. - I think I would have more fun being the guy that sets the agenda for the day, at the Internet Research Agency.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


I'm only here, on PF. The audience for my propaganda is very small.

This means that the other Poles, are being "infected" by somebody else - or not being infected at all, and simply opening their eyes and ears in this third year of the war.

Spreading discord between Poles and Ukrainians, is as easy as ABC. The ground is... fertile, and you can't blame me for that.

Maybe I also told Kaczynski to block Ukrainian grain exports? Did I influence Tusk to block Ukraine's EU negotiations?

If you have problems with Ukraine even on the level of prime ministers and presidents - you can hardly blame poor old Bobko for engineering fake tensions.

Like I said - even we orcs understand that it's not a good look to bargain over exhumations.

History / 70th anniversary of 1943 Wołyń/Volhynia and Eastern Galicia Massacre - controvercies [454]


I think cultural genocide is much preferred to... well, genocide.

If you give me a choice between speaking Polish, or having a pitchfork inserted into my guts - I will always choose speaking Polish. Putin forgive me..

History / Poles should apologise to Ukrainians first [395]


You are a classic representative of czerń.

History / Should Poland organize March of the Living in Volhynia and Eastern Lesser Poland? [65]


High praise from you! Thanks very much.

I think our resident monkey has gone off the rails. First, I was willing to entertain his arguments, but when he wrote "exhumation is compensation" - I realized he is not a serious person.

Even us, Kremlin orcs, realize that bargaining over exhumations is a form of extortion that should be below any self respecting state. The fact that Ukraine wants to trade with corpses of dead innocents, tells you all you need to know about this state.

I wouldn't be surprised if they already dug everybody up and mixed the bones with concrete at some construction site. Later, they will allow Poland to come and exhume whoever they want, and when the Poles find nobody - they will say "See! What genocide?". Honestly, I am not joking, this is the level of their cynicism.

They don't behave like Christian people, while they are embarked on their heroic task of "building the Ukrainian state". All methods are good - the Russians and Poles can eat sh*t.

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I am reading it now. I will write you a message, or a special post when I finish it.

In general, I already knew about Baron Von Ungern and his crazy ways.

They call him the Russian Genghis Khan.

He was a Russian Buddhist, and a warrior devil like then best generals of the Genghis.

He is the only reason Mongolia is a an independent state in modernity.

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Deleting the cache fixed it!

Thanks boss!

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They're gone for me too :(

It was so nice while they were there. They should be there. Refresh browser?

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Law / Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns? [1041]


I'm only looking out for your wellbeing, beloved Poles.


Ever since your people invented the steam engine life has been sh*t.

Law / Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns? [1041]


Books are from the devil, and can fill your head with all sorts of dangerous ideas.

Poland is historically an agrarian nation. This is what preserved the religiosity and the culture despite centuries of occupation.

Farmers don't need books. Ask Pawian.

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]


Same for me. Selecting a piece of text is often tricky, and then scrolling through that selection even more so.

I want to reiterate that I think polls would be a nice addition to the forum.

Of course, many of the polls would be created by Novichok, with titles like: "Should a woman have a penis?"...

But we could also vote on updates, measure sentiments on current events, etc.

Law / Gun control in Poland: should Polish people be allowed to own guns? [1041]

Poles should not be allowed books, let alone guns.

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]

Turns out I made another useless suggestion.

You can fix the problem I described above by sliding the width selection left and right.

However, by default this problem is always there.

Yet another function that I have been super late to discover.

The Admin should make the UI idiot proof for blind millennials like me.

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Look, I'm gonna show you how difficult it is for me to "Bold" or "Italicize" things on my phone. Sometimes it takes me up to a minute of playing a zoom in and zoom out game, before I can accomplish this simple task.

Not sure if the problem is unique to iOS or also exists on Android.

Please see photo below:

1) Photo 1 shows my problem
2) Photo 2 - I highlighted in red where I think a little space should be added between the format bar and the text box.

On the screenshot, you have the Sticky/Unsticky post form checkbox selected (the one near the Preview button). Maybe unchecking it would help.

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I'm realizing that most of my suggestions were useless, after I spent a few more hours yesterday poking around on the website. They're just much more easy to miss on mobile. On a desktop, it's much more intuitive.

I don't know how many people use mobile, but I would hazard a guess that it may be the majority.

This brings me to a new suggestion - could we get analytics?

Many forums have a little space dedicated to showing the number of daily visits, or even tracking the number of impressions per page or post. I don't think it's necessary to track impressions, and think this may be difficult to implement - but I would still be happy to get more general statistics.

For example, yesterday I pressed "Members" for the first time, and was surprised to learn how many new users have been joining, and how many were bots that got quickly deleted.

If we could see these things below, it could be nice:

1) Number of visitors
2) Where they come from
3) How many are recurring, and how many are sort of fly by birds
4) What devices they use

I think people interested in posting classifieds, or any kind of thing of a working post - would feel more comfortable posting if they knew what sort of traffic the site has.

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]

Man I can't tell you how happy I am with this change....

I'm clicking on all the categories just for fun, like a little child now

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]

Oh my God... thank you Admin! Now I see the categories always!

So much better!

That was lightning speed improvement!

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Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]

@Bratwurst Boy

Ok, I just discovered that you can actually search by username, and even by country, but that's in a completely different place than the general search function. Instead it is in "Members".

I have used this forum for probably 7 years or more, and I just found this out. Again, I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Maybe I am just very stupid and incurious.... Anyway, scratch that suggestion.

What may seem super obvious to the Admin is definitely not always obvious to us peasants.

Feedback / Who deserves to inherit Polish Forums? [344]


Thanks!

I know you would be very happy for emojis to be added, but I don't necessarily agree. Because on many forums people just respond to each other with emojis, and then the threads look pretty retarded. That is, I know you would use them judiciously, but I don't trust other people not to abuse it :)

Also, I think Paulina would be happy if there was an easier way to embed gifs - but I have the same problem with that. Pages take longer to load, and threads turn into people talking with each other through memes instead of intelligent text.

One thing that I think could attract a lot more users into the forum, is if the "Forum Categories" tab at the bottom of the home page was done better. I'll try to explain what I mean:

1) I only discovered that it exists very recently. I use PF primarily on mobile, and there it is practically invisible (Photo 1 below). Otherwise, the home page always appears to me as a mix of "News", "Random", "History", etc... as if there really are no categories.

2) After I click on some category on the front page, the tab disappears (Photo 2 below). That is, if I go to "News" - for example - then I have to go back to the main page, and click on "Forum Categories" again, to see something else. It should always be visible, to prevent these multiple steps. I don't know how to do it elegantly, in such a way that it doesn't get in the way of the posts, but there must be a way. Maybe at the top of the page, or in a side tab that can be expanded. I don't know. The fact is, I'm sure many people miss it like I did, and that's one of the most important functions.

3) Maybe geographic categories like "UK/Ireland", "USA/Canada", "Australia" etc should have their own "work" and "classified" tabs. I think this might bring more people to the forum, because right now it may seem that those things only apply to Poland itself. This way, Poles in Ireland can discuss their own work needs there amongst each other, without it immediately getting lost on the front page. Same for Australia or whatever else. People could check in on those pages every now and then to see if there are new jobs available, etc.

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New updates to the forum, from the admin:

"We've just added a new usability feature: the Center/Uncenter Layout checkbox.

On the discussion pages, you may click on the checkbox to center the layout for easy reading.

Enjoy!

PolishForums

(you may want to hit the CTRL-F5 buttons at the same time to refresh your web browser's cache)"

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I only discover these updates when I visit the funding page to check how we're doing... I suspect I'm not the only one who was oblivious to these changes.

Perhaps the Admin can make some kind of a sticky thread where the updates are posted, but discussion is locked? Actually... would be nice to be able to make suggestions too.

I have some off the top of my head:

1) In the search function, it could be nice to add the ability to search by username and also by date, in addition to title and message.

2) When editing text on a mobile phone, it's pretty difficult to Bold or Italicize selected text. The reason is that, at least on iOS, the "Select, Copy, Paste, etc" pop-up covers the "Bold" button, so you have to zoom in and out until you're able to click the damn thing. I think this can be fixed by slightly adjusting the size of the box, or moving it slightly downwards from the formatting tab.

3) Allow users to bookmark their favorite threads, so they don't have to scroll back several pages in time to find them.

4) Add some kind of "old school" ranking for users. Like "newbie", "rookie", "webmaster" etc. The forum will still have its nostalgic look, but maybe this will add a little flavor.

5) Create the ability for users to post simple polls. This could be very fun.

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Yep. I noticed the traces of Russian influence, when I realized I had heard some of his jokes before, but in Russian from old timers.

He was one smart cookie. That's what made his comedy so good.

He was also a religious person, which surprises a lot of people. One time, on some radio show, some chick made a pretty flat joke about how "Christians are dumb", and Norm eviscerated her.

He's a guy who had a gambling addiction, but also never drank or did any drugs. Also, pretty much asexual, out of respect for his kid. Full of contradictions...


Heh

News / Will PiS be happy if AfD wins elections in Germany? [1303]


Letterman was one of the very few people who knew Norm was very sick.

It was almost physically painful to rewatch this later, after Norm passed, and finally understanding the context.

Letterman, for all his faults, is one of the most decent people on late night tv - ever.

If you want to see Letterman himself get emotional, watch this episode when he brought on Warren Zevon who had terminal cancer.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


My heart is broken.

I am sorry if I got too emotional, but it is impossible to stand by and watch you attack the best poster on this forum.

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Back on topic - the Polish military is now the third largest in NATO. As Pawian would say, AMASSSING!

Quoting:

"Poland has NATO's third-largest military and the alliance's largest in Europe, newly released figures show.

The Polish armed forces contain 216,100 personnel, according to NATO's estimates for this year. That is behind only the United States (1.3 million) and Turkey (481,000).

Poland is followed by France (204,700), Germany (185,600), Italy (171,400) and the United Kingdom (138,100)."

Source: notesfrompoland.com/2024/07/16/poland-has-natos-third-largest-military-new-figures-show/

If I was Germany, I would be very, very scared right now.

News / THE ARMY OF POLAND - THE REALITY [493]


Classic Vatican...