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Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
News / Polish final report on Smoleńsk aircrash [870]

Which is good when you consider that now that Poland has both PO and Palikot for the younger more intelligent voter

Go back to our booze, politics is not your forte !
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Nobility is nobility - the majority of the szlachta were not. They didn't fit the socio-economic model, they were unable to sustain themselves as a privileged group, and their numbers were too large even to be a viable elite.

Nonsense! Whose model they didn't fit? They were perfectly able to sustain themselves. I think that you are focusing too much on the XVIII century.

One again, nonsense. The fact that there were many considerably poor nobles doesn't change the fact that there were many well off and quite few whose lands and fortunes on par with some independent countries in Europe. Not to mention Spanish hidalgo poor but proud noblemen, or French owners of titles pigsty and ruins of castle, proud nobles as well, For your country, somebody father could be living in poverty and forced to work for food but his son could be a heir to estate and title, would that make him less noble, eh?

I think you are annoying on purpose.

And I have already shown this is utter garbage in a previous post,at least when it comes to the nobility on the British isles. So re posting just shows again your lack of understanding and lumping of a

You have show nothing ! The systems were as different as they come due to the fact that Polish knights evolved into citizens of the nobles republic in the XVI century whereas English knights dissolved into aristocracy, land-gentry and freeman each with distinguish rights.

The forum is not place to analyse what happened in the curse of next two centuries.
However your claim that your are not boasting whose medieval boys were batter is empty cause that exactly what you are doing.So let me tell you something - **** off ! Our nobles were free citizens, and your monarch could done away with your, at lest before rebellion of Cromwell when they installed elicits protestant regime with monarch as pimple on the a...!

We had President called King and free elections - stuff it in your crack pipe and smoke it MR pot!

Calm down, Iron.
Ironside   
17 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Nobility is an English word. Most of the szlachta were not noblemen.

Well from the point of view of Polish not-noblemen most of western or eastern nobles were not real nobles or not fully nobles because of them being sheets any monarch could wipe his ass with !

Sure Polish system was unique as was Polish feudalism (if we may use that word) unique but basically noblemen originated as a fighting elite of a country with rights and duties and their code of honor and their land. All European nobles and aristocracy stem from that! Many countries had their own variation on the theme, Polish one was more interesting than some.

Coming to conclusion that Polish nobles were not nobles it is nonsense !
Ironside   
16 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

Nevertheless Poland still holds its own in international comparisons

he Polish girls' European maths Olympiad team

You can always find few geeks doesn't prove anything.
Also dumbing down doesn't bid well for the future.
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

and he definately kooked Asian,with dark yellowish brown skin,and he was short,and did not look White at all

Don't say ! What wrong with you people ? It is as somebody would wonder are you Americans all black? My grandfather had a dark skin and his parents where from the USA!

Do you see error of your way, now?
Ironside   
14 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

What on paper is called a democracy is all to often something quite different in reality -

There are and were different devices and shapes of democracy.

One other (that was told to me a few years ago, by a Polish academic, was that the szlachta were those who considered themselves to be Polish. The peasantry didn't have that same identity - their sphere of experience was more regional.

That would be only byproduct of social and political system and generally speaking not a rule.
Ironside   
13 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

but to describe them as nobility implies that there was a sense of nobless oblige, a noble code governing behaviour and a socio-economic distinction between themselves and those around them.

Of curse there were all those things. As for noblesse oblige depends what you understand by that, if you give it a classic meaning you should be remained that that concept was born in XIX century.
Ironside   
13 Apr 2012
Life / Do Polish names generally have a meaning to them or a particular structure?. [88]

Do you seriously think its somehow more *noble* to keep slaves(serfs) in utter poverty,to use them as animals if the *noble* doing this abusing is some semi literate living in a slightly larger wooden shack than his serfs?

Gee some more of your ill educated generalization. Sometimes I think that havening some knowledge of a subject is worse than havening no clue. At lest you are aware of your dumb-ass status :)
Ironside   
7 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

God i hope you are not married, because if you are I really pity your wife.

I let my wife answer that one:

for your information i am his wife and please you don't have to pity me because he is right and if your married god help the woman/man because i think they will discover they have made a serious error in judgment.

Your relentless negativity is really becoming a bit passe.

Because I know what has become from the Polish educational system and I have definitive opinion about it?
Yes, I don't think much about educational system in Poland whereas you just have no clue about it.

It's not my test you fool.

Test you presented here you moron !
Do you have any other argument to support your views ? or your admiration for PO, lack of knowledge and this test is all you need to become personal and obnoxious ?
Ironside   
7 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

I can't really make much of this rant, perhaps you would like to rephrase your argument.

You have no clue about Poland, so why don't you shut up instead of making assumption based on your uneducated guesses.

It has everything to do with what you mentioned above

In what way ? There is no way you can say whether educational system is working or not, decaying or improving based on your test.
I'm telling you that executional system in Poland is going to the dogs and it is constant process.

That will change in the future i can guarantee it.

As hague1cmaeron ? I don't think so !And what would you do if you are not right ? say sorry ?phew!

What will also happen is that the government will force students to pay by giving them a loan, which they will be expected to pay back interest free

Fine but it will not make better an educational system in Poland.

I think that early education in Poland is a lot better than higher education.

When did you make that assessment ? Last year or ten years ago ?
Anyway what do you make from the last reform ?
Ironside   
7 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

PISA: Programme for International Student Assessment.

What is has to do with anything ? Doesn't it answer the question about programs and subject toughs in schools about the system and the way teachers are schooled and expected to deal with pupils, does it gives the answer to anything apart form some general assessment of few students abilities ?

Very few things to you actually do. Unless of course they are PIS inspired, than they make perfect sense.

Do you actually know Polish because your last attempt at translation was poorly done. Why do I ask?
Because you are talking about PiS and you seems to know very little about them.
As to your suggestion that something must be inspired by PiS to gain my acceptance I may only answer that such a thought must be inspired by your natural stupidity and mediocrity of your character.

If you think that I'm insulting you heed the fact of my many post were I have denied any political affiliation to PiS.
I would add that your blind acceptance of the current government every move is rather an obvious indicator that your views are motivated by the artificial knowledge of the Polish politician scene and country.
Ironside   
7 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

Sadly for history-it is not measured on the PISA league table of international competitiveness in education, and Poland want's to be competitive, so something has to give.

That doesn't make any sense.

It's a general dumbing down process afflicting all aspects of Polish education.

bingo!
Ironside   
5 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

like you and other PiS nutters

Interesting that you labeled me PiS supporter, that is your world, clique-man! I have nothing to do with PiS and never had, unlike you who is PO party member.

Characteristic is a way you guys think :)
As for the rest of your ramblings, they are just ramblings, it is just a sign that you loosing your cool, cause you lost your marbles long time ago.
Ironside   
5 Apr 2012
News / History lessons no more in Poland (Tusk's change) [61]

Stop lying.

Stop trolling!

Iron, do you really need to be as maniacally incompetent as they are?

Nobody is as incompetent as your beloved PO, stop your frantic posts aimed at me which are nonsense, and sounds really queer coming from the PO' member and an ardent political partisan.

I would gladly spit in your face and your leaders because they are doing a real harm to Poland. Image ? You are pathetic!

History lessons are going to remain at a previous number in all types of schools - primary, junior high, senior high. The only difference is that senior high school students, at the age of 16, are not going to start their course from the beginning, i.e., ancient times, repeating the same material again, like it used to be in the old system, but will continue the course from WW1 (the year 1918) where they finish in junior high now.

You are talking BS! History lesson for over 15 years old will not be the same. There will be History and Societylesson ,not history lesson, a different name, a different contents.

As for number of lessons, government says that number of lesson will remain the same but that government is known for lying through its teeth. I would rather believe experts who say otherwise.

Anyway if everything remain the same - why change anything ? It cost monies ain't it!
There plenty more urgent issues to be solved and government focuses on history lessons in schools just to change nothing ? phew!
Ironside   
29 Mar 2012
News / The census of 2011 in Poland. [12]

I know there are many Polish-Ukrainians but the 2 or 3x increase must be due to immigration.

I don't know and to be honest I don't care that much.
I just stumbled upon some statics I found interesting and decided to share.
By all means you are welcome to use my thread to discus demography and ethnic shift in Poland.
Ironside   
29 Mar 2012
News / The spiritual heirs of the Polish Communist Party [91]

re the civil law and its courts impartial in Poland, or not?

I think not.

You draw your own conclusion. I am not trying to denigrate Rymkiewicz.

You are mising the point of this thread. It is not about Rymkiewicz it could be as well XYZ who expressed those opinions. It is about limits of the freedom of speech in Poland and if the court ruling rendered all the political debate impossible.
Ironside   
29 Mar 2012
News / The spiritual heirs of the Polish Communist Party [91]

Perhaps the content of speech he gave was identical to that of the article, or perhaps not. It would greatly serve this thread if we could have an English translation, or a link to one, of the Gazeta Polska article in question.

He went to court because of the interview he given to the Gazeta Polska.
Specifically for his words:

Poles, standing in front of it (ie Cross), say they want to remain Poles. Those words awake such rage, such anger, such hatred in many- for example in the editors of "Gazeta Wyborcza" who expect Poles to cease to be Poles. "

The poet added that the editors of "GW" are "the spiritual heirs of the Polish Communist Party." According to him, "parents or grandparents, many of them were members of this organization, which was contaminated with the spirit of" luksemburgizmu "and thus founded on hatred of Poland and Polish people. These editors were brought up in that way that they have to live in hatred of the Polish cross. I think that these people are worthy of compassion - Polish Catholics should pray for them. "

Later he explained that by editors he meant those who "founded" GW. Mainly those pulling the strings.

GW is not only newspaper it is an institution with many tentacles in many state institutions, government, courts and such.GW is highly political and influential voice in Poland supporting by the way current government.

Owner of GW, Agora one of the biggest media company in Poland with Adam Michink pulling strings, and about him and his cronies Rymkiewicz ( originally Szulc) was talking.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agora_SA
There is no right - left political scenery in Poland, there is opposition and pro-government camp with Michnik supporting government.
His ambition is to heavy influence political life in Poland. There would be nothing wrong with it but he cannot stand opposition or opponents of his visions.

Many time hes newspaper was publishing articles much worse that anything Rymkiewicz said or insinuated If you want I will find them for you.
Lately he is trying to shut any critics of his up by suing them.

uch an editorial statement could indeed cause GW to lose money

Indeed but he is aiming at domination and is not interested in the free exchange of ideas.

When you finally decide with whom you are talking let me know and then maybe I will disscuss with you.

I think that I don't want to talk to you but I reserve the right to comment on the most outrageous of your lies.
Ironside   
28 Mar 2012
News / The spiritual heirs of the Polish Communist Party [91]

Request seconded, Ms journalist.

You just showed you true colors A. You doing it all the time and yet you view yourself or you want to be viewed by others as somebody impartial.

Let make it clear once and for all, you are partisan of political clique, biased to the core - end off!

Ok, enough of rumbling ;)

Yes I agree that little speech you have written there means nothing, it just noise, a waste of typing power.

HHis words could have big impact on GW (also financial one)

That statement is provable and you could be brought to court if you lie, I'm sure that is the only reason you used the word "could"! As you know that Rymkiewicz's words had no impact at all on GW neither financial nor moral.

said that it is Concience-Logic Syndrome.

No it is a left bolox syndrome!

So, can we use defamation law, or not?

I have already explained my stance and the fact that there is no contradiction. Predictably you choose to ignore my explanation and quote once again my posts because you have nothing else to support your logical fallacy. I'm sure that you will bring it few more times. Good luck.

Bashing the Bible is not a political debate and serve no other purpose but bashing for a sake of bashing,hence should be punishable by the law.

On the other hand Rymkiewicz's words were a part of public, political debate in which GW takes active part for years and what more it was an opinion, hence the law should keep away.

One of the clearest of those boundaries is accusing someone of a crime without offering concrete proof. In this case that boundary was crossed.

What crime editors of GW have been accused, pry tell !

Say, I am a bar owner. You run your local community paper. One day you assert in your paper that I hate Irish Catholic people. I summon you first to publicly apologize and optionally compensate me for your wrongdoing. You refuse. I sue you. Now the burden is on you to prove in court my Irish-Catholic-hating attitude.

Say that story has nothing to do with the case we discus. Firstly it was newspaper that somebody expressed opinion about!Secondly business wasn't some bar but political publishing of politically controversial opinions. One would expect that such newspaper would be first to defend freedom of speech in political debate, soon that ruling could be used against them with impunity and if then they will scream murder I will laugh!

Not under the Polish civil law.

Lets agree for the sake of an argument that you are right about that. You would agree with me that the law should apply equally to everyone.?

Well, it isn't happening because GW many times published articles which in the light of the case were slanderous and should be punished by the law.

Anyway I still think that for the sake of freedom of speech such ruling shouldn't have happened.