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No, we're not. We have record-low unemployment despite all the Ukrainians here.


The most battle-hardened soldiers are already dead after 3 years of the war of attrition. Every month they are replaced by new conscripts of ever declining quality.


Russia doesn't care how they view her. Without NATO protection Germany would be vulnerable. AfD wouldn't risk that.

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How would that be in Poland's interest... let's see...


Poland is in the state of demographic collapse; millions of white, Slavic Christians would be a blessing.


Poland's border with Ukraine is shorter than our border with Slovakia, so it wouldn't extend the border that much. Besides, neo-banderist Ukraine where Waffen-SS units and UPA genocide perpetrators are still celebrated as heroes is not necessarily a friendly country. The collapse of Ukraine, or more likely the creation of a smaller and weaker Ukraine, would not necessarily be bad for Poland.


As far as I know there have been some voices of criticism of NATO from AfD politicians but, as a national party, it has not adopted a formal policy of leaving NATO and I don't think they ever will (Russia is too unpredictable, as we have seen, for them to risk such move).

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It's easier for Russians - you are not seen as a threat to them. If Poland had the largest territory and the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, it would also be easier to be friendly with Germany for us.

As it is, your economic and political advantage are still seen as a threat. Not to mention that you commemorated everyone and their grandmother who suffered from the German hands in WW2, but Polish victims of the war still haven't been properly commemorated by Germany, 80 years after the war ended.

Also, German society is mostly modern and liberal whilst Poles are conservatives and more religious. Not many common platforms of understanding there.

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... and it would to have to be a lot of conditions: the Central Transportation Hub, navigation on the Oder River, the expansion of the port in Świnoujście, even the exploitation of newly discovered oil deposits in the Baltic Sea - are all developments that certain circles in Germany do not approve of and even complain about. Add to this all the mental ecotardation of the EU: no combustion cars since 2035, the CO2 emissions trading system (ETS) that is stifling our economy, Fit for 55, the Green Deal, the Mercosur deal that can destroy our farming, the metan directives for mines, EU Taxonomy Regulation - limiting cheap gas, nuclear and coal energy... I could go on.

Sometimes it seems that any sort of common sense agreement with Berlin-Brussels is impossible.


German medial tune towards Poland is not all rosy either. Maybe AfD could change that... provided they don't get too cosy with Russia.

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Yes, there is always this threat. That's why Poland can never become properly European (whatever that means in current conditions) because we are doomed to alliance with the USA. We are not Washington's Trojan Donkey - this is simply our survival strategy.

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It sounds like he does. I have the article in pdf format and can send it to you.

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]


Yes, indeed!


For the mental leftardation of the current "elites".

Off-Topic / AfD Party is growing ever more powerful throughout country [187]

A very interesting article by Jarosław Lindenberg in the latest issue of "Do Rzeczy"...

dorzeczy.pl/kraj/758058/niemcy-nie-takie-straszne-mateusz-morawiecki-sie-myli.html

... the author argues that AfD's program is largely aligned with Poland's strategic interests, and that if AfD were to form a government in Germany in the future, we would gain a very strong ally in the fight against threats to our national sovereignty (namely, transforming the EU into a European superstate and uncontrolled mass migration). Lindenberg also writes that AfD has the highest proportion of Polish-speaking politicians among German parties and that during the PiS government it was the only German party in the European Parliament that systematically and publicly defended Poland against accusations of violating the rule of law. After Tusk became the PM, representatives of Alternative for Germany (the most well-known being Tomasz Froelich, a politician of Polish descent) repeatedly spoke out on Polish issues and accused the European Commission of applying double standards depending on who is in power in Poland.

If Poland moves right in the 2027 elections (I'd say there's about 95% chance of that happening), and AfD enters government in Germany, then it might mean the opening of a new and very interesting chapter in Polish-German relations.

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France has one of the largest Muslim populations in Western Europe, small Belgium has over 1 million Muslims, visible especially in cities like Brussels where Muslims may represent over 20% of the population. In Spain there's about 2 million muslim migrants - a small but very vocal minority. Riddle solved.

Genealogy / English versions of Polish given names [35]


Yes, it does...

nazwiska.ijppan.pl/haslo/show/id/4055

... 'ą' and 'ż' became 'a' and 'z' abroad. Typical.

Genealogy / Origins of Polish Genetics [17]


Tell me about it.

That's exactly what a certain lovely Khrystyna was explaining to me passionately: that they never invaded anyone, never hurt anyone, were only fighting invaders in their lands, and only defending what was always theirs. And you know what... she had a brother on the frontline, was in a foreign country, and had some Polish girls being not exactly nice to her at work (envy!)... and I - the stalwart Kania, the Polish-to-the-core Torq, the anti-banderist legend of Gdańsk and beyond... I had no heart to argue with her and prove her wrong.

I am such a wimp in the real life. :(

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Hmm... debatable.

The Arabic language somehow magically clings to your memory once you memorize something in it. I still remember some prayers (for various occasions) that Ahmed taught me about 20 years ago, and I suppose praying 5 times a day, at set times, with all those regular movements and rhytmic incantations, can properly affect your brain as well. Not to mention that Muslims have some top class and highly intelligent preachers (Khalid Yasin, Ali Hammuda, Mufti Menk, Hamza Yusuf, Hakim Murad - to name just a few).

I don't especially like Islam and Muslim immigrants in Europe (self preservation instinct, I guess) but one has to admit that they do what God ordered us to do - be fruitful and multiply. So, maybe they are right and we are wrong... may Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) have mercy on me if that's the case.


Safety vent :)

Genealogy / Origins of Polish Genetics [17]


These days there probably aren't that many Jews in Ukraine, and Russians are too similar to Ukrainians to make genuine hatred possible, so I suppose we are on the top of the hate list today. Oh, well... it's nice to the number one at something, I guess.

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I'm not a big fan of Muslims.

When I lived in Dublin, I met a guy called Ahmed who was running a local Internet cafe; he was the funnies c*nt in the universe and we got on legendarily well. Then, I joined this Turkish forum (aaaaah... memories...) - it was a difficult love but a love nonetheless. :)

I used to be a bit of a German-sceptic too... then I met BB :) Russians, of course, were the legendary Mongols from the East our grandmothers used to scare us with... then I met this guy Yuri from Klin (and, of course, Bobi and Veli later). :)

Hm... maybe Internet is not such a tool of Satan as some people depict it. ;)

Genealogy / Origins of Polish Genetics [17]


A rather ungentlemanly thing to do, but that would mean that their daughters, long time ago, were already half-Germanic, half-Slavic; and as we know from history the Germanic husbands came back with a vengeance (more than once!) and planted their seed, so it all mixed again. So, Slavs fought back and... etc. etc. etc.

Of course, Mongols, who are not Slavic, and Turks rolled over our lands more than once too. Some Tatars even stayed permanently. We mixed our dynasties (and genes) with the Balts as well (the whole Jagiellon dynasty). Swedes did their part, and we had throngs of Italian and Dutch settlers. Jews were always a closed community... but not THAT closed; in Austrian partition all sorts of mixing was going on... and so on.

To talk about nations today in terms of genetics would seem to be slightly retarded.

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What? Wait a minute... so Poles are Germanic from our mums' side?

So, I now have to switch from pan-Slavism to pan-Germanism?

What about Serbians? Are they Germanic too? Where is Crow when we need him?

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You're right, as usual, BB. :)

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Sure, I know that. But still - that's about 20 bucks a month per capita, whilst Polish GDP is $26,810 (nominal) and $55,190 (PPP).

Don't get me wrong, BB, the money was very useful, especially in the first phase of the transformation; but the way Poland looks today is the result of millions of Poles working their arses off in two (sometimes three) jobs, doing overtime, creating their businesses, going abroad and sending money home, saving, investing and building a better and richer Poland for our children. That's why it annoys me when somebody (not only Ukrainians) makes it sound like Poland got rich only because EU flooded us with money.

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Damn it, I just realised that €170 billion divided by 40 million Poles is about 4200 euro... divided by 20 years is 212,5 euros!
So, every Pole got about 213 euros a year, for 20 years from the EU. That's about 18 euros a month!!!

18 f*cking hard-cash euros a month - that would be enough to pay for using PF! ($20 seems to be an average contribution).

Hmm... maybe those Ukrainians are right. Maybe it was the EU money that made us so stinking rich today! :)

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Speak for yourself.

Mine is not that little.

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I suppose it's because he killed the legend.

The legend of freedom and democracy and noble American knights fighting for it. The legend of the USA standing up for everything good against everything evil. The legend of common values of the Western World being more important than money or current political gains.

He is the guy who came into a room full of kids and said: "There is no Santa Claus, you little retards!".

Hence the hatred, I suppose. Nobody like when his legends are killed.

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Oh, I would. Right away.

There is no such thing as free money - there are always strings attached. Wealth is built by hard work, thrift and discipline, not by handouts. Polish politicians, however, are much more easily bribed than I am. Alas.

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Southpark is not a European TV series.

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That's a bit harsh on President Trump.

Not as harsh as the recent Southpark episode, but still.

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That's just retarded.


By practically building their entire heavy industry and gifting them lands that never belonged to Ukraine in the past?


In 20 years (2004-2024) Poland received about €260 billion from the EU, mostly in EU Cohesion Policy and Common Agricultural Policy. We paid about €90 billion in member-state contributions, so our net gain is €170 billion. It is about 16% of our current GDP, divided by 20 years gives around 0.8% of GDP every year. A nice money, for sure - every little helps - but to say that Polish success is the result of this 0.8% would be to overlook the remaining 99.2%. :)


I am stealing this phrase to use it in my future discussions with Ukrainians.

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A correction here: it was Ukrainian Schutzmannschaft Bataillon der Sicherheitspolizei and a Ukrainian police company, not Galizien units.


You do not "discuss". You pray, you ask for her wisdom and humility in accepting God's will, and you offer your services as her knight and slave.


Colour me unsurprised. We are the perfect scape-goat. I said it a long time ago - if Ukrainians lose against Russia, they will somehow find a way to blame Poland for it.

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A pessimistic cynic? Hmm...

In 1965, Marek Hłasko - a famous Polish writer - wrote how in 1944 in Warsaw he saw six Ukrainians rape a Polish girl (Hłasko's neighbour from the same house) and then use a teaspoon to extract her eyes, while all the time laughing and making jokes. Even German historians (e.g. Guenther Deschner), investigating the participation of Ukrainian units (including 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS - Galizien) in suppressing the Warsaw Uprising, were shocked by the bestiality displayed by the Ukrainians. Today, the same Waffen-SS unit is celebrated in Ukraine and considered heroes.

Ask me again if I am a pessimistic cynic.

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It depends how we define "win". From the Polish point of view, a minor Russian victory would probably be a slightly better option.

A minor Russian victory might (just might) postpone the beginning of World War 3 a bit, and a weakened 20-22 million Ukraine, without their most industrialised areas and natural riches, and with limited access to the sea could be invited to join the EU. Such Ukraine could even continue worshipping their Waffen-SS heroes and murderous UPA banderists. They would still be retarded but at least would cease to be a threat to Poland.

As for Russia, they were our enemy for most of our history, they are our enemy now, and will continue to be one in the foreseeable future, so there's no change here. In other words, a minor Russian victory would mean one threat to Poland in the east, instead of two threats.

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We are partially ourselves to blame here. From the very first day of this war, Polish trains with weapons, ammo and medical aid started rolling through the border, we took in millions of their refugees, granting them social benefits, kindergeld, free healthcare on all levels and education, we provided them with Starlinks, fuel, electricity etc. We kept saying that Ukraine is fighting for Poland, that we would do everything for them, that we are servants of Ukrainians and so on. So, they got used to it and started taking it for granted.

We should have adopted the early German and then Hungarian/Slovakian stance from the very beginning. Ah, well...

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Chill out, Grunni. All we have to do is adopt a more Hungarian-Slovakian approach towards the Ukrainian-Russian conflict, and it will happen after 2027 elections. Until then, we have to grin and bear it.


Of course they are. Just like Germany still worshipping Hitler, Himmler and Heydrich would be a threat to us, so Ukraine openly worshipping Bandera, Shukhevych, Klyachkivsky etc. is a threat to us. That's why we have to elect to power politicians who can clearly see it, and currently only Konfederacja displays a certain dose of healthy realism towards the Ukrainian issue.