Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

Sure


You are compressing here a great distances on land, different people and different periods of times - that is mush -mash which doesn't makes sense.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Horde#Fall_.281480.E2.80.9315 02.29

Secondly Golden Horde or Tatars never ruled Poland or in Poland or over parts of Poland.
Thirdly maybe it is overlooked in books and historiography written in the English language.


Some do most do not!
Poles for a good three hundred years of their history has been a melting pot of ethnicity ranging from Scots to Armenian, so you could put there one Tatar or two.

Generally speaking however their impact on the genotype of the general population was not that great.

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]


I think that you don't know much about either and views you may have on the subject are just unattenuated stipulations of yours.

Food / The name of a Polish pastry? Chrust? [60]


The Curious Case of the Snoogle: Story of a Sweet Ohio Invention



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News / Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland [110]


I just wonder what are you taking about. My guess is you are talking about feelings. Am I right?
However you cannot legislate feelings.

News / Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland [110]


What rights?

News / Homosexual lobby steps up infiltration in Poland [110]

Sure, all that info is not a news. The qestion is who is promoting that kind of propaganda. As they say - who is behind that?

In fact they are not liberal or tolerant at all.
Excluding experts that are opposed to one correct view. It Has as much to do with tolerance and liberalism as gas chambers with showers.
Given the fact homosexuals are decisive minority in a society is beyond debate that forcing views on children of majority is brazen trickery and has noting to do with such key words like tolerance, democracy, liberalism, progress - often used in that context .

Correct words to describe process of implanting those radical views on unsuspected majority would be - discrimination, oligarchy,totalitarianism, revolution.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


it is next to impossible and then you must to keep your gun locked at home - most of the time. What good it is for anyone? Also it is not only about requirements but about discretionary powers of policy.

Let me ask you that - do you have a gun?


They have no time and money for what it takes to get a gun. It is not different mentality but different circumstances.


What are you talking about?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Are you for real? lol
I going to eat my hat if you can speak Polish properly.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Barney is Irish.


As a matter of fact that thread is about - The right to own guns: would you support such legislation inPoland?
Have a good day nevertheless!
By the way there is the thread about guns in the USA.


police do not pollute this thread with off-topic rubbish.
It is not about hunting.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


soldier or policeman is no better than an average Joe. Sometimes even worse when it comes to so called professional soldiers.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


It is sidetracking because I never said that I want or need one.
As the means of defense for a civilian such copter is useless.
As a matter of curiosity are you anti-military as well jason?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


I don't know about tram or cross bow but car few years back some maniac killed seven people and injured few more. There was poison in Japan that killed more then ten people, and can we count bombs or home made bombs - you don't need gun to make them.

Sickness few years back killed hundreds - like swine flue.
You are sidetracking,as tragic as it may be ban on guns would not made the world into a safe place for everyone.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


What a arrogant prick. Calling people name from behind his armed guards. That what is wrong with those liberal tootsies with no morals and double standards. They think they are better than everybody else.


You jason seems be one of those people who think they can control their surroundings and other people. I hate to be the one who is gonna burst your bubble - but the world ain't working that way. No gun is needed for something that could happen to people including you or anybody. Car, tram sicken, crossbow - As much as I do not wish you ill - I'm telling you that your safety is not quarantined and you can do only so much to ensure your own safety. I must stress that your fear of fellow men and guns is simply irrational.


contrary what you may believe i do not postulate for Poland to introduce American system regarding a gun ownership. They had centuries of tradition and practice behind them and they can do well with what they have.

For Poland I want to see recognition on the legal level that any citizen under certain condition can legally buy and carry gun. So far guns are for chosen few and rules are murky and discretionary.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

That law wouldn't affect you at all. Unless you would be unhappy that few people would be able to legally own a gun.lol

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Well but it doesn't - you don't know facts.


You assume it would affect you. In fact it wouldn't affect you at all as you don't want to own a gun.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Yes it is emotional reaction if you don't know facts.


It is for Sejm to make those changes - where you took that idea from that you would need referendum for that?


How would you know what I think?


yes because -


So why concern yourself with those who just want a reasonable chance to get a gun?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Sure it is. Gun is just an extension of bow and arrows or a spear. Those who wanted have a say in a tribe had to be ready to defend themselves and their tribe and in that way earned their rights.

From Two fundamental rights, the right to refuse or consent to taxes and the right to own a gun. Remains only one - so far.

Not in Europe though.


Sliding - Poland already there but for one inch.


You don't even know what the law is like and what changes some people postulate. You are reacting emotionally.


Maybe it is maybe it isn't the point is that is not the only argument pro.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

sure it is and freedom of choice should be equally acceptable for a gun ownership. Those who want to own a gun should have the right to do so and those like you who don't want them shouldn't quire them. That should be legally acceptable.

However people who don't want guns shouldn't impose their opinion on the others.


Don't call me boy unless you are over seventy sonny.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


As a matter of fact it has nothing to do with you.If i want a gun or if i own dozen of guns it dens;t affect you in anyway. You are not going to be held responsible for my actions. You can want whatever you want but you cannot tell me how to live and what to do- as long as I'm not-affecting you and your rights in anyway - why would you attempt to inference with mine?

Because out there are nutter who can harm people? You are not able to control all people or to control what nutters would do or not- that impossible. Are you some kind of control freak?

nutter with dedication can do much harm without a gun.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


so what?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Who are you to telling me I cannot have a gun if I want one - legally.


yes but he would like to stroll naked about a town and in the park.As he said Germans are strange.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


A General consensus?


Well weapons can only help with self-defense or hunting they are not meant to solve other problems. More deaths in the short run in the long run it maybe mean less deaths and suffering.


Maybe, maybe not it is up to citizens to decide. After all making decisions for others IS tyrannical.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Not if weaponry is owned by the majority of citizen and they just resist enforcement of tyrannical law.


If you have no weapon then your options are limited. I'm afraid it is very much the same qestion.


what is fantasy? That if most of citizens own guns they can easier defend themselves than without guns.


You are talking about invasion onto territory of foreign country - it is not quite the same thing.
Alas we are not talking about wining battles, maneuvers and offensives but about resistance against usurping body. If they cannot effectively enforce their laws they are done for it. They cannot enforce them if citizens have practical means to defend against force.

They cannot be everywhere at the same time.
Say they want arrest some dude (no guns) they send three to 12 troopers and even if some people protest they are in and out no problem. Law enforced.

Now there are guns in the neighborhood - they would have to send at last four times the number with armored cars and possible air support to arrest the guy.

Now, they have million or two such people to arrest they cannot do that, not at the sometime, they have no enough personnel to do that. And not all military or police people would support government in such scenario.

I afraid you have fallen for the Borg propaganda - all resistance is futile- no it is not.

Anyway it is not only about resisting tyranny. It is about being citizen with the right to self-defense.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Soviet mentality, but yes I'm afraid that you are right.Sad.


I just wonder, you are intelligent man Barney and you seems to fail to grasp the idea of gun ownership for citizens. I just don't get it.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Who is talking about hunting weapon? I'm saying that getting a gun license for average Joe is next to impossible.


Probably quite a few/ However if they are entrusted with the right to vote and choose representation they should be trusted with weapons even more so. If they behave as you say then there are is a law to deal with them.

The only way for people to behave responsible is to be burdened with responsibility.


well at least you can have black-powder shotgun without license, which tell you something isn't it? Tell you that gov do not worry about half-wits shooting each other but they worry about intelligent people together shooting them out of the saddle. Cannot do it with muzzle loaders so let them have it, but modern weaponry - no way Jose.


Never?lol

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]

Yes but if one doesn't want to hunt or belongs to their stupid association and paying fees and still want to own a gun is pretty much screwed.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


They are unfit to have access to duns by their own deeds or their health. Label? I'm not obsessed with a quota or and false presumptions of equality.

You wouldn't be happy if your bus diver would have been blind just not to discriminate against visually impaired people.
Common sense.
On the other hand you have no calms on the though that gun ban would mean punishing all people for the deeds of few.

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clams=qualms


:DDDDDD


That is your point. My point is that Poland should change her laws in regard to gun ownership.


for an average hard working honest Joe with connection in the right places - very, very difficult.
The point is that even if you meet all laws requirements still commandant of the police in your county have decisive say in whether or not you will get license to buy and own a gun.

He can just say - I don't see in your circumstances anything that would confirm that you need a gun.
If you want to hunt you have to join the hunter club and pay extra for the privilege.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Well, first of all people armed have better chance to defend themselves than unarmed. Also they can defend themselves aghast criminals who would have been armed regardless of what regulations you have in mind cause they do abide by the law.

Second of all attack at schools are due to unregulated health services and rules about mentally ill individuals. Why nobody campaign for better control and regulation of drugs, psychiatrist and their patients? Because nobody-care? Why pick on gun?


Well evidently most if not all of those who attached children had been diagnosed with one or the other of mental illnesses.


Only people that need to be controlled are criminals, mentally ill and politicians the rest is just fine. I wonder why would you put your trust into hands of politicians who proved to be untrustworthy many time over than in your fellow men.

Total control of weapon including criminals would mean a total control of people because you cannot have one without the other. i would rather than some people where controlled than all cause it would means totalitarianism in which you are safe or not. It is up to you masters to decide that.


Well regulated in the language of 18th century - mean - well trained.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


What has kids safety to do with gun-related deaths? Surly gun-related death overshadows greatly those instances when kids have been victims of some mentally-sick individuals.

The main fallacy of authorities is to let mentally ill individuals ream streets unchecked and nobody seem to be responsible. Are those medications do not procure side effects? Why psychiatrist are not scrutinized or punished for falling in their duties.

Those aims can be realized by others means than disarmed of society or total gun control by a central government. Are politicians agree that is not possible? Why don't they step down then and let those who can do their job properly?

The right to own guns is aiming further than to keep gun-related deaths to minimum. Its aim to keep society free from any force that would change society into slaves a master could kill at will.

History / Terrible past for the Jews in Poland? [930]


I don't know anything abut Brainsk but an idea that town or city could be autonomous and can have enjoy said right is nothing new. That it was Jewish majority who controlled said town is not impossible.

so what do you disagree with jon.