Ironside
6 Feb 2012
Life / Why Milosz not Herbert ? [38]
should be could - bummer!
Also Miłosz spent most of his live in America. Could get his prize as an American.
should be could - bummer!
Ironside
6 Feb 2012
Life / Why Milosz not Herbert ? [38]
I met only Miłosz. I don't have to know them personal to compare. Also Miłosz spent most of his live in America. Should get his prize as an American. He even wrote some of his poems in English, that telling.
I think that you can say who is a better poet.
How well did you know them both personally? To compare,,that is.
I met only Miłosz. I don't have to know them personal to compare. Also Miłosz spent most of his live in America. Should get his prize as an American. He even wrote some of his poems in English, that telling.
Their poetry is distinctive. I don't really think, that you can compare poets or any other writer, painter etc. and measure which is better. You can only say which you like better.
I think that you can say who is a better poet.
Ironside
4 Feb 2012
Life / Why Milosz not Herbert ? [38]
Did you ever meet him?
Do you agree that Herbert was a better poet ?
Milosc (who was a good person) had the edge and came to the attention of the Nobel Committee.
Did you ever meet him?
then I guess we will never know
Do you agree that Herbert was a better poet ?
Ironside
4 Feb 2012
Life / Why Milosz not Herbert ? [38]
Why Miłosz not Herbert got the Noble Prize ?
Evidently Herbert was much better poet and a human being as well.
Miłosz :
I don't remember exactly when Budberg died, it was either two years
ago or three.
The same with Chen. Whether last year or the one before.
Soon after our arrival, Budberg, gently pensive,
Said that in the beginning it is hard to get accustomed,
For here there is no spring or summer, no winter or fall.
Herbert:
We halted in a town the host
ordered the table to be moved to the garden the first star
shone out and faded we were breaking bread
crickets were heard in the twilight loosestrife
a cry but a cry of a child otherwise the bustle
of insects of men a thick scent of earth
those who were sitting with their backs to the wall
saw violet now - the gallows hill
on the wall the dense ivy of executions
Why Miłosz not Herbert got the Noble Prize ?
Evidently Herbert was much better poet and a human being as well.
Miłosz :
I don't remember exactly when Budberg died, it was either two years
ago or three.
The same with Chen. Whether last year or the one before.
Soon after our arrival, Budberg, gently pensive,
Said that in the beginning it is hard to get accustomed,
For here there is no spring or summer, no winter or fall.
Herbert:
We halted in a town the host
ordered the table to be moved to the garden the first star
shone out and faded we were breaking bread
crickets were heard in the twilight loosestrife
a cry but a cry of a child otherwise the bustle
of insects of men a thick scent of earth
those who were sitting with their backs to the wall
saw violet now - the gallows hill
on the wall the dense ivy of executions
Ironside
30 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
Because of people like you.
Would you kindly read above discussion before jumping to simplified conclusions.
I said that there is no eastern European mentality .
What it has to do with your buzzing?
Poles are nothing like the west - could somebody translate that into intelligible English please.
'-' Detest western tendencies and ideologies on this forum - since when this forum is representative of Poles?
Nevertheless I wish that above were the truth. Because nowadays western tendencies and ideologies are aiming at turning people into slaves.
.why are we even discussing this
Because of people like you.
Would you kindly read above discussion before jumping to simplified conclusions.
I said that there is no eastern European mentality .
What it has to do with your buzzing?
Poles are nothing like the west and routinely detest western tendancies and ideologies on this forum.
Poles are nothing like the west - could somebody translate that into intelligible English please.
'-' Detest western tendencies and ideologies on this forum - since when this forum is representative of Poles?
Nevertheless I wish that above were the truth. Because nowadays western tendencies and ideologies are aiming at turning people into slaves.
Ironside
30 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
What else?
I'm saying that Czech attitude to life is more similar to Dutch attitude to live than Ukrainian.
Simply there is no "eastern Europe mentality" !
Ah the same goes for" western Europe mentality" - A Spaniard doesn't has the same attitude to life as English !
Not only.
What else?
So you're saying that a Spaniard has the same attitude to life as a Russian?
I'm saying that Czech attitude to life is more similar to Dutch attitude to live than Ukrainian.
Simply there is no "eastern Europe mentality" !
Ah the same goes for" western Europe mentality" - A Spaniard doesn't has the same attitude to life as English !
Ironside
30 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
eastern European is a term based on former political reality.
Whereas mentality is something more specific - there is no eastern European mentality !
eastern European is a term based on former political reality.
Whereas mentality is something more specific - there is no eastern European mentality !
Ironside
30 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]
Really ? News to me!
Don't bet on it.
you mean yourself and few flukes calling themselves gov ?the EU can keep those mythical funds!
Lithuania and the Nazis!
articles.cnn/2010-06-03/world/lithuania.nazi.prosecutions_1_holocaust-history-efraim-zuroff-nazis?_s=PM:WORLD
h yes. One year later, Poland was humiliated. A
Really ? News to me!
Poland would have nothing to gain, only to lose.
Don't bet on it.
I imagine Poland would be begging for mercy within minutes of being told that EU funds will not be paid
you mean yourself and few flukes calling themselves gov ?the EU can keep those mythical funds!
Lithuania and the Nazis!
articles.cnn/2010-06-03/world/lithuania.nazi.prosecutions_1_holocaust-history-efraim-zuroff-nazis?_s=PM:WORLD
Ironside
30 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
What ? Are you connecting mentality with geography ?
, it's not hard to see how the mentality is firmly rooted in the East.
What ? Are you connecting mentality with geography ?
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]
You see he is Lithuanian, is not that they are lying trough their teeth, they are just living in a different dimension.
I'm done here.
You see he is Lithuanian, is not that they are lying trough their teeth, they are just living in a different dimension.
I'm done here.
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]
After all that hassle with Lithuanians ! All that are fruits of your policy.
Already happening - see above!
You seem to be not able to grasp a simple fact that people in Poland regarded Lithuania and Lithuanians as friends. That has changed due to your actions.
Yes I have.
Lithuanian signs, monuments vandalized, people afraid to speak lithuanian due to constant harassment. Enough?
After all that hassle with Lithuanians ! All that are fruits of your policy.
You keep saying that, but will this happen? xD
Already happening - see above!
You seem to be not able to grasp a simple fact that people in Poland regarded Lithuania and Lithuanians as friends. That has changed due to your actions.
Have you been to Lithuania, talked with people living there?
Yes I have.
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]
Right, However I don't know any European country where government is actively encouraging racist and nationalizing feeling, also introducing some backwood chauvinist legislation to harass minorities.
I suppose policy pursued by Zimbabwe is your ideal. The Government fallacy on all fields is compensated by focusing on minorities and alleged "problem" they constitute.
Any examples ?
Don't be saying then that you haven't been warned !
Know a country where racial or nationalistic attacks are absent?
Right, However I don't know any European country where government is actively encouraging racist and nationalizing feeling, also introducing some backwood chauvinist legislation to harass minorities.
I suppose policy pursued by Zimbabwe is your ideal. The Government fallacy on all fields is compensated by focusing on minorities and alleged "problem" they constitute.
Poland is definitely not an exception.
Any examples ?
So stop crying, nothing will come of that.
Don't be saying then that you haven't been warned !
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]
Yeah, keep dreaming.There some standards in the EU to be upheld.
It will not go away, sooner or later it will blow in your faces.
Some time ago two Lithuanians stabbed to death a Polish guy in England because he didn't give them fags.
There is a world of difference between fight and drunken brawl especially for teenagers and grown men being aggressive towards teenagers just because they are Polish.
Anyone who is not in AWPL
Yeah, keep dreaming.There some standards in the EU to be upheld.
It will not go away, sooner or later it will blow in your faces.
And yes, they tried to beat me because i spoke in lithuanian and didn't share cigaretes.
Some time ago two Lithuanians stabbed to death a Polish guy in England because he didn't give them fags.
There is a world of difference between fight and drunken brawl especially for teenagers and grown men being aggressive towards teenagers just because they are Polish.
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
Special or not that is a question of perception. I'm talking facts here -Poles do not have eastern European mentality because thingy like that do not exits !
yes, we consider ourselves special. now, if only the rest of the world were so easy to convince :)
Special or not that is a question of perception. I'm talking facts here -Poles do not have eastern European mentality because thingy like that do not exits !
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
History / Mother tongue in Poland - acccording to 1931 census. [174]
Says who?
Have you been beaten up senseless for speaking Lithuanian ? I don't think so.
Simply put, they want too much.
Says who?
I live near the lake, where in summer are a lot of people. I was attacked twice by drunk teenagers, who were speaking polish.
Have you been beaten up senseless for speaking Lithuanian ? I don't think so.
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
I have mentioned Himmler in order to understand your definition of honor. Would he be a man of honor according to your definition ?
You claimed that Kiszczak is a man of honor. Well , he is not, foremost because of being a traitor.
Would you kindly elaborate ?
I have mentioned Himmler in order to understand your definition of honor. Would he be a man of honor according to your definition ?
You claimed that Kiszczak is a man of honor. Well , he is not, foremost because of being a traitor.
Would you kindly elaborate ?
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
I must that your definition of honor baffles me.
Would Himmler be a man of honor according to your definition ?
I must that your definition of honor baffles me.
Would Himmler be a man of honor according to your definition ?
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
Nevertheless there is no eastern European mentality !
Let's face it, the main reason for everyone denying that Poland is part of Eastern Europe
Nevertheless there is no eastern European mentality !
Ironside
29 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
As if all was used in Poland? Do you think that he could loan anything without Kremlin's permission?
traitors thats what they were/
Poland wasn't colony ?I suspect that you will claim that Canada or Raj weren't colonies either.
As if all was used in Poland? Do you think that he could loan anything without Kremlin's permission?
Yawn. Poland wasn't a colony, or have you forgotten the 2 million people who depended directly on the Party?
traitors thats what they were/
Poland wasn't colony ?I suspect that you will claim that Canada or Raj weren't colonies either.
Ironside
28 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
Is it? Is that made up "definition" is a prove of your "academical" mind? Gerek ? What he has to do with anything ?He was an official in the Soviet owned colony.
Socialism is very much about favourable short term policies and damming the long term. Gierek was an expert at that, if you care to recall.
Is it? Is that made up "definition" is a prove of your "academical" mind? Gerek ? What he has to do with anything ?He was an official in the Soviet owned colony.
Ironside
27 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
Traitors have no honour !
Personally I do. He did his job for what he believed were the right reasons and in the right way.
Traitors have no honour !
Ironside
27 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
Wether Communist did or didn't is not an issue here. Nor am i a PiS supporter, recognising lies as lies has no political connotation's. Well maybe for you it has.
Boasting of what ? spying ?
Are you calling the actions of anti-corruptions government organization - spying ? hilarious
Did he ? There was parliamentary comity to check all alleged "crimes" of his government. What are the conclusions ? No law has been broken/!
smoking pot much ?
Yeah you would know one wouldn't you.
Your posts are BS through and through
.
and new-speak too, and nonsense and boring !
Implementing anti-corruption measures !
Actually, you just prove the point. PiS supporters instantly denounce anything that doesn't agree with them as lies - which is exactly what the Communists did.
Wether Communist did or didn't is not an issue here. Nor am i a PiS supporter, recognising lies as lies has no political connotation's. Well maybe for you it has.
Err...you might start with his boasting about how they spied on his coalition partners
Boasting of what ? spying ?
Are you calling the actions of anti-corruptions government organization - spying ? hilarious
He already boasted about how he used the ABW.
Did he ? There was parliamentary comity to check all alleged "crimes" of his government. What are the conclusions ? No law has been broken/!
smoking pot much ?
Newspeak through and through.
Yeah you would know one wouldn't you.
Your posts are BS through and through
.
Basically, PiS are hard left economically - they are very much socialists. It's denied, of course (socialism is a dirty word here - but it's almost certain that they would hurt small/medium businesses in order to help the huge state-owned businesses. They're also very pro worker-rights - so depending on his business, he might very well be in a bad place if PiS won. Generally speaking, they stand for all sorts of benefits for workers and little rights for employers - which is why most business owners are against them.
and new-speak too, and nonsense and boring !
I never asked him how PiS would do that.
Implementing anti-corruption measures !
Ironside
26 Jan 2012
Life / Are Poles mentally more Eastern European or Western European? [170]
Neither - mentally they are Polish! !
Neither - mentally they are Polish! !
Ironside
25 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
Which it is actually hoax! Which you have taken at face value ! Whereas it is yet another BULL in a long series of propaganda articles.
Would you like to present any evidence to support your claim that he was hunting down his political opponents?
As for "spying" by Kaczynski on his coalition partners - would you like to point out the way he was doing that spying ? Was he hiding under their table or in their wardrobe? Maybe he was using a glass pressed against a wall to listen to their conversations ?
Everybody knows that rag and what it stands for. If anyone is dividing people and is totalitarian at heart that them - self-admiring poisonous circle of haters and professional liars !A Good company for you.
The topic is -
Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to PiS supporters
Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to PiS supporters
Which it is actually hoax! Which you have taken at face value ! Whereas it is yet another BULL in a long series of propaganda articles.
Would you like to present any evidence to support your claim that he was hunting down his political opponents?
As for "spying" by Kaczynski on his coalition partners - would you like to point out the way he was doing that spying ? Was he hiding under their table or in their wardrobe? Maybe he was using a glass pressed against a wall to listen to their conversations ?
all it takes is the mention of "Gazeta Wyborcza" and you're drooling at the mouth.
Everybody knows that rag and what it stands for. If anyone is dividing people and is totalitarian at heart that them - self-admiring poisonous circle of haters and professional liars !A Good company for you.
Ironside
25 Jan 2012
News / Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
Right ! :D
What a travesty? Commies are accusing others of being commies well, totalitarian minded !
What next? these experts in a need of dough ! low
PiS is often accused of a rather divisive style of political discourse, evoking a certain kind of 'Poland' and a certain version of the nation's history, one that tends to be dominated by dichotomies between 'us' and 'them,' in various aspects of public life.
Right ! :D
What a travesty? Commies are accusing others of being commies well, totalitarian minded !
What next? these experts in a need of dough ! low
Ironside
24 Jan 2012
Genealogy / Are all Poles blue eyed and blonde? [450]
light brown for Poles is dark blonde and other way around for Brits,different perception
For Poles the colour is still blonde and for you it is not.
simple !
No, stems from different perception - for you it is one shade too far to call it blonde for Poles it is not!
Have you ever heard about platinum blonde ?the term your have provided is used by boisterous youth and not applied to females, especially attractive females.
For blonde the term is blonde you blonde, or light blonde or platinum blonde.
i don't agree. light brown (mousy) is not blonde.
light brown for Poles is dark blonde and other way around for Brits,different perception
For Poles the colour is still blonde and for you it is not.
Wroclaw may not consider "dirty blonde" to be "blonde" but the people using the term "dirty blonde" which includes the word "blonde" in it obviously do, otherwise they'd say "light brown" or use another term that doesn't contain the word "blonde".
simple !
it stems from lack of vocabulary. mousy is a new word for many.
No, stems from different perception - for you it is one shade too far to call it blonde for Poles it is not!
in Poland the term swinski blondyn/blondynka (swine/pig blond) is applied.
Have you ever heard about platinum blonde ?the term your have provided is used by boisterous youth and not applied to females, especially attractive females.
For true, or 'Scandinavian' or whatever u'd like to call people with light blond hair, in Poland the term swinski blondyn/blondynka (swine/pig blond) is applied.
For blonde the term is blonde you blonde, or light blonde or platinum blonde.
Ironside
24 Jan 2012
Genealogy / Are all Poles blue eyed and blonde? [450]
Why 'Scandinavian blond' should be a measure here or 'dirty blond' for that matter ?
Blond is blond regardless of its shade, Maybe delph is a racist at heart!
scandinavian blonde is not the same.
Why 'Scandinavian blond' should be a measure here or 'dirty blond' for that matter ?
Blond is blond regardless of its shade, Maybe delph is a racist at heart!
Ironside
23 Jan 2012
Genealogy / Are all Poles blue eyed and blonde? [450]
Where did you get that idea from ? Nazi posters or Hollywood war movies?
Was Hitler blond haired ?
some neo-Nazi with an agenda to paint the image that most Poles are blond haired/blue eyed which is certainly not the case.
Where did you get that idea from ? Nazi posters or Hollywood war movies?
Was Hitler blond haired ?
Ironside
23 Jan 2012
News / Polish People STILL denied US Entry [96]
funnily enough about 3000 a day.
there no friends only business deals
don't know. Why?
funnily enough about 3000 a day.
And what lesson would that be?
there no friends only business deals
Ironside
21 Jan 2012
News / Polish People STILL denied US Entry [96]
per annum:)
Horrible :D
How many Mexicans crosses the USA border every day? 10 000 ? 30 000?more?
I think that the USA should keep Poland as the only country from the EU excluded from the VWP ! That is a very good lesson for Poles.
2 percent in 2010, or roughly 3,040.
per annum:)
Horrible :D
How many Mexicans crosses the USA border every day? 10 000 ? 30 000?more?
I think that the USA should keep Poland as the only country from the EU excluded from the VWP ! That is a very good lesson for Poles.