Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Poland will soon be following in the footsteps of the Chezch's by popular demand.

A couple of months ago, Czech President Milos Zeman made an unusual request: He urged citizens to arm themselves against a possible "super-Holocaust" carried out by Muslim terrorists.

Never mind that there are fewer than 4,000 Muslims in this country of 10 million people.........gun purchases spiked.
One shop owner in East Bohemia, a region in the northern center of the Czech Republic, told a local paper that people were scared of a "wave of Islamists."

Now the country's interior ministry is pushing a constitutional change that would let citizens use guns against terrorists.
Proponents say this could save lives if an attack occurs and police are delayed or unable to make their way to the scene.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


Not necessarily as trucks could be used as a weapon too.
One more time now, People kill people, not guns or trucks. (sigh)


A low caliber carbine is very capable of killing a person or animal so that point is moot also.


Somehow I think that impresses you.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


A statement like that shows your liberal brainwashing.
Another thing guns are used for is sport competition like in the Olympics.


I already answered that question but by the way you are flaming it is obvious that you have your young bias mind made up.
One more time just for you my Polish friend.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


And if the truck driver was allowed the privilege to carry one he and the people that got run over may still be alive.
At least he would have had a fighting chance.


Really ? I can think of a least a half dozen.
Self defense, hobby collecting, target practice for sport, killing people that want to kill you, killing animals to eat (you have to kill them to eat them and shooting them for an instant death is most human), family heirlooms (grandfathers), predator control, exercise your Constitutional Right (in country's that you have those freedoms and rights) and lastly to pis s off Sissy Liberal Gun Grabbers that want to tell you that because they don't want to own a gun then you can't own one either. :-)


Gee, I wonder where the terrorists get their AK-47 assault rifles from in the EU if that was true.


Unless they get shot by a criminal or terrorist first.
Which brings us back to, "If you choose not to own a gun then don't but please don't tell me because you choose not to have one then I should be allowed to have one either." (Liberal Logic)

You have been brainwashed to be scared of guns well I don't like dogs because they bite people therefore you shouldn't have the freedom to own a dog because I choose not to own a dog.

I hope you can see how silly your Liberal political correctness is.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Poor Har with more laughable lies.
I wonder why he won't tell us how many Polish law abiding citizens have murdered by using a firearm.
Most likely because it would be about the same number as the United States maybe.



"WE" as in anti gun grabbers or we as in the total population of the EU which just is not true.
The last terrorist attack in the EU the terrorist used a large truck to kill.
Are "WE" going to outlaw large trucks too to feel safer ?
Trucks don't kill people, people kill people.


It's nice how anti liberal gun ppl keep ignoring the fact that gun ownership is increasing in Poland.
Despite some of the most draconian laws on gun possession in the European Union, over the past decade the number of firearm permits in Poland has gone up by some 30 percent. (Google that one Har)

This fact seems to contradicts someone repeatedly saying that the "majority of Poles" don't want easier gun access.
One might say that it looks like the pendulum is starting to swing the other way in Poland which is a good thing.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Now that I have time today with just the prime rib prepping to do for tonight's New Years Eve party..........



Only if you want to "split hairs".
But since I was "required" to answer to Har AGAIN, to defend myself, let me "split the hairs" to be technically anal just for Har.

I'll give this a shot...using Wikipedia data for the following statistics.

The homicide rate in the US in 2010 was 4.8:100,000
There are 4.3 million members of the NRA.
On average, this would mean that there were 206.4 murders for the total 4.3 million NRA members (4.8 * 43) : (43 * 100,000).
Which counts down to 0.0000048 murders per NRA member.

So when I claimed an average of ZERO ever occurred by a NRA member only Har would challenge that just for the sake of an argument "splitting hairs" to be able to call someone a liar.


Perhaps you should get a life.
Perhaps the laws of law abiding citizens of Poland to be afforded the 'freedom to choose' if they desired to carry a gun for personal protection is in the near future.

And for those who choose not to carry one, well they should have that freedom too.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


Said the Brit Boy where half the discussions are about Britain on a U.S.A. based Polish Forum.


Change that to, "armed with any kind of deadly weapon."
You know how many women carry a small gun for personal protection in the U.S.A.
It makes a rapist think twice when he sees a woman walking after dark with one hand in her pocket or shoulder bag.
I am no rapist and I avoid even making eye contact with such women at all costs.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Did you notice that the States with the highest murder rate on your map were all Liberal Democratic States ?
All Liberal democratic cities. Hmmmm

Take the mass shootings and subtract the mentally ill, Muslim terrorists, minority gang banger related who were responsible and compare those stats to law abiding gun owners.

It is not the law abiding gun owners that are responsible for the mass murders.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people.
The biggest mass murder in the U.S.A. was done with a bomb.
Didn't Germany just have a mass murder by a Muslim using a truck ?
And the difference is ?

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


I guess I do get a bit wreckless sometimes by not "splitting hairs" Har.
I stated that zero NRA members have committed murder with a gun and you googled "two" that did out of the 4.5 million members of the NRA.

Shame on me.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Har I have to hand it to you.
Job well done on your googling.
You finally got one on me with the score now:
Johnny Reb 10
Har 1
Two guys out of 4.5 million members are guilty

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


Perhaps you would like to tell us WHO "confirmed" that claim ?


Perhaps you could give a link that states this claim ?
I couldn't find that statement in the link that you posted.
You're not trying to sneak one past us are you Har ?


At least a gun gave him a chance to respond.
He was a hero by getting everyone out of the store to safety.
He then was shot in the back.
When you leave the critical details out of your claims Har it's just like lying. :-/
Now for the love of Mary can we PLEASE get back on thread you hard headed Auzzie.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


Oh but it is Har, very much so.
Just google the percentages and you will see that it is a fact.


That is your job Har since YOU are the one that insinuated that he was a NRA member, not me.


Or "perhaps" you would like to tell us.
Again, another post of your trolling has taken this thread Off Topic.
That calls for a sixth warning in any civilized forum and permanent ban.
If I don't get a chance to say goodbye Har, I will say it now, "Good Bye Har".

Terrorism spreads like a cancer and likes soft targets and innocent victims to terrorize.
Poland's turn is coming just like the rest of the EU is experiencing.
Eventually it's citizens will demand to be able to protect themselves and their families by carrying a gun to have a fighting chance.
It takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with a gun.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


OH NO ! I have to defend myself to "spitting hairs" again. lol
Take your race card and shove it Har.
I don't play the "political correctness" guilt trip game.
Facts are not racism.
Perhaps you would like to google the prison population by race in America.
Then compare that to Poland's prison population by race.


LOL, I don't want to "split hairs" however YOU are the one that claimed that he was a NRA member, not me, you liar.

Perhaps you would like to tell us how you came by that information ?
NOW, quit your trolling to take this thread Off Topic AGAIN !
The P.F. is not your personal therapy class any longer Har.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]

Har is just trolling again to take the thread off topic.


LOL - Except for the minor details (but who wants to "split hairs") you left out Har ..........
Perhaps you could show us that he was a "NRA member" and not just a NRA councilor.
You left out that the conviction was reversed and Dowlut eventually walked free.
That information kinda makes you out to be a liar again dunnit it Har.
But who is "splitting hairs". lol
But as usual you troll for an argument that is Totally Off Topic begging to get your sixth warning.


A no brainer.
That is because Europe doesn't have the Black population nor the Latino population that America has.


If you are not paranoid you're not paying attention. (sarcasm)
Oh Pam where do you come up with such ridiculous statements like that. (does palm plant on forehead)


When I have my "Huckleberry" with me I fear nothing.
If you had half the freedoms I have you wouldn't be so jealous.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


That is not true. (sigh, does palm plant on forehead)
There are ten times as many people in the U.S.A. as there is in Poland so many more variables to make up stats.

How many mass murders were committed by Muslims ?
How many by Black and Latino gang bangers ?
How many by the mentally ill ?
ALL OF THEM with illegal guns is the correct answer son.


Bet me that if I came to Poland that I couldn't buy an illegal gun within a week if I really wanted one.
Come on son, get real.
Did you know that not one (ZERO) murder by shooting ever occurred by a NRA (National Rifle Association) member.
These are the people that own guns legally.
You have been brainwashed well by the Liberal gun grabbers in the U.E.
Responsible gun owners enjoy their God given freedom to self defend themselves and their families.
Poland should be allowed those same freedoms is all I am saying.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


As we don't need yours. Pi pi pi


Exactly leaving only the bad guys having illegal guns.
The part you fail to understand that to stop a bad guy with a gun it takes a good guy with a gun.
When you get a little older and get drafted into the military they will teach you these things.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


I certainly would never do that as I admire Poland's low murder rates.
You also live in a very beautiful and peaceful part of Poland that I will eventually be visiting soon.


It is against the law in the U.S.A. to posses a handgun that is not registered to you.
Terrorists like soft targets as well as criminals (who use 'unregistered' guns) who like gun free zones.
By the time the police get there now all that is left is victims while if there was a well armed community the criminal would still be there too. (Face down)

How long do you think it will be before Poland experiences a mass murder that could have been stopped if there would have been armed citizens ?

Think the innocent Polish truck driver in Berlin might be alive today if he had one ?

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


I most likely wouldn't need a parachute either but if I ever did need one and didn't have one I would never need one again.

At least I would have the "freedom" to have that personal choice.
If you feel you don't need a gun then fine, don't apply for a permit to have one but please don't tell me that I can't have that "freedom" to carry one just because you don't want to have one.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


I don't hear about responsible gun permit holders shooting each other.
Amazing when bullets are flying at you and you let a few go flying back the violence stops.
Remember back in 1997 when England outlawed handguns and the murder rate shot up 45% for the next eight years.
Kind of proves the point that unarmed citizens are more likely to die from gunshots then someone who is armed.
Now with Polish citizens starting to die from terrorists it might be high time that the Polish citizens are allowed to carry a concealed handgun with a permit to be able to defend themselves if necessary.

Feedback / Member warning system to prevent abuse / spam / off-topic posts [145]


Purely hear say for humor purposes...........and it WORKED !


Baby ! You one of those funny boys aren't you living up there on the Left Coast.
What "truth are you referring to ?
You must have some proof besides hearsay to make such a statement.
When I ask for proof you produce crickets.
See how rumors get started.


The point was to make a point which was.....Like YOU for example.


If the member warning system actually worked You would have been banned a long time ago for Trolling, Stalking, Bullying and Abuse.
You are what we call here in Texas, A HOOT !


There needs to be proof and you have spent HOURS trying to find some but what brings the tears are........you can't find any.

Feedback / Member warning system to prevent abuse / spam / off-topic posts [145]


Unfortunately that was not the question but you did make my other point which was:


I rest my case. ;-)

Feedback / Member warning system to prevent abuse / spam / off-topic posts [145]


The mods are doing a great job.


Do you have anyone in mind in particular ? lol


You mean like this purposely one ?


One would think that someone who "repeatedly" (stalks) other posters for the mere PURPOSELY to get "under their skin" would fall under the "Bully" category which is Abuse.

Only a unbalanced individual with a superiority complex caused from low self esteem would appoint themselves for such an abusive job to knowingly be aware of and PURPOSELY get under someone's skin.

Laughable at best when then such an individual cries to the mod. when they get abused purposely.


Or just consider the source and not take it seriously.
I mean all it amounts to is black lettered words on a white screen. Pffffft !


Did you notice this last week when two of the regular posters both got suspensions (AGAIN) that when they were allowed back that their very first posts were right back to where they left off for what they got suspended for !

My gosh man, if that is not thumbing your nose at the authority what is.
If I were the Mod. I would have said, "o.k. guys, I guess three days suspension was not enough time to think about it, let's try three weeks and the next time will be three months."

How many suspensions is one allowed before one is permanently banned or should Pigsy be allowed back ?

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


There has to be an international statute of limitations on something like that it seems.
Like maybe two years.


The plane is Poland's property, not Russia's.
Why this wasn't taken to a world court (or some place with authority) makes one wonder.


That is exactly what Russia is doing which is inhumane in the lowest form.
Poland needs to seek another avenue to get what belongs to them on Poland's terms which is immediately.
It is highly doubtful that if that plane belonged to the U.S.A. or say China that it would have been returned after one year.

Unless Russia has something to hide again.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]

Could someone update me to know the method of the madness for Moscow's refusal so far to return the plane's wreckage and the flight recorders to the Poles.

If Poland had the plane's wreckage from the get go these exhumations would not now be necessary.
Russia has to be breaking some kind of international law to remain so wicked in their defiance to return Polish property.

News / Polish President Lech Kaczynski and gov officials die in a plane crash in Russia [686]


The investigation continues.

WARSAW, Poland - The bodies of former Polish President Lech Kaczynski and his wife have been removed from their tomb in Krakow, the first of more than 80 exhumations planned on prominent Poles killed in a plane crash in Russia in 2010.

News / CO2 emissions in Poland. Should Poland go nuclear or stick with clean coal technologies? [93]


Poland should not let the global warming hoax influence their decision.
@Wincig
Earth to Wincig: The coldest year on record was:
Newly analysed Nasa satellite data from east Antarctica shows Earth has set a new record for coldest temperature ever recorded: -94.7C (-135.8F).
It happened in August 2010 when it hit -94.7C (-135.8F). Then on 31 July of this year, it came close again: -92.9C (-135.3F).

Poland should not let the global warming hoax influence their decision.

bing.com/search?q=Warmest+Year+on+Record+Debunked&FORM=R5FD3

Poland should focus on which would be the best for the economy by lower rates and putting people to work building and maintaining the facilities.

CO2 is needed for plant life and vegetation to grow and should not be used as a scare tactic.
Better we talk how many jet planes are in the sky (both commercial and military) at any given minute 24/7 polluting and we sure know NOTHING will be done about that to clean the air up because of the $$$$$$$$$$ being made from it.

News / CO2 emissions in Poland. Should Poland go nuclear or stick with clean coal technologies? [93]


How rude to call the Polish people such names Bushy.


Your lies you mean.
Did you know that Australia is the most coal dependent Country in the world ?


And it is immediately obvious you have zero education in what powers your own Country Mr. Genius.


Sources please as here are mine:
Energy in Australia
22 January 2015
Most of Australia's energy is generated centrally and relies heavily on traditional energy sources, known sometimes as fossil fuels.
In fact, around 86 percent of our electricity is generated from these fuels types,with 73 percent from coaland 13 percent from natural gas.
With credible sources, please educate us backward offensive idiots on what fuel types Australia is presently using that is less despicable medieval witchcraft that you claim Poland uses.

Tick tock, tic tock, tic tock.................

Life / Polish people are the most ignorant people in the world! [335]


I know a family (Polish Jews) that do this also.
They drive around in an old truck on trash pick up day, pick up anything of any value.
We call them "The Pickers".
Then every Saturday they have a huge yard sale (that looks like a flee market) and try to sell the crap for five or ten bucks.

(No income tax to report as it is all cash transactions and 100% profit)
At the end of the summer they put what is left out for trash pick up. :-/
Who said that Polish people are the most ignorant in the world ?


You could not have made that up as that describes perfectly several Polish people I know here in America.
That's funny.


The Brit's ARE a laugh.

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


They walk and talk like a woman, have limp wrists with their fingers pointing down and squat to pee.
We'd call them a "prissy".

Life / Professional feminists' of Poland meet-up [631]


Yes, you did very well being English is your second language.


There is the male fems like you.