Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]


Why would she? There’s a plethora of trolls like yourself on this very forum; nothing new really. Besides you’re not much of a threat, your ability to express yourself is less than adequate, your material a bit out of touch with reality I’m afraid and antediluvian don’t you think? My dear chap! If you only had time to do your research properly (read a thread or two on this very forum) before making your first posting instead of getting down to business, so to speak; you would have found that the only thing Poles are accused of stealing these days is the unwanted jobs off of hard working English people. If you only took your sweet a** time, your pay off could have been so much more. Perhaps one day you’ll realize that keeping up with current events generates much larger audience, yields greater support, in effect it creates a beehive of activity of like minded individuals working in unison to achieve their goal. Perhaps you might even gain your very own cheering section if your witty enough consisting of more than one individual.

That’s quite enough for now, I don’t want to give away all of my trade secrets for free. I do run an online workshop on “How To Be a Troll”; if you want to sign up give me a call, on second thought; taking an English language course could be a much wiser investment of your money in your case, perhaps one day it might even pay off. I must admit, I do enjoy reading your posts – really, very amusing and entertaining in their own way, mind you not in the way you think - popcorn anyone?

Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]


Having problem keeping track of all those accounts? Don’t worry, you’ll find it easier with time, practice makes perfect you know.

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Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]


You have Dyslexia or something of that nature? Perhaps rereading my comment would help. Somehow S&M had no problem, get my drift? You on the other hand are just a cheering section who pretended to be Colombian, now everyone knows you’re a German Jew unless you have a second account on this forum now that the truth is out? Could it be?

Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]


At least you’re honest and don’t deny your Jewish roots proving my point in the process that it’s just another Jew with a huge chip on his shoulder. What’s rusted here is your ability to spread your massage of hate. Reinforcement of some old German stereotype about Poles and projecting it on all Poles as if that was true simply won’t do, you have to be more original than that. Speaking of: I have one for you “quick everyone - hide your kids! Jews are on this forum”.

Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]

What’s sad is that some Jewish Troll pretends to be a Hindu in order to spread rumors about Poland and its people.

News / US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland [405]


Who cares what you mean! You have a very simplistic view. Judging from what you have said in your posts reading one or two articles which were clearly a propaganda piece at the time does not make you an expert on the subject. BTW your views are not shared by your average potato farmer so there’s no need to call on them to back you up. Oh yes I forgot all those desperate pleas were moved to random.

News / US to deploy Patriot missiles to Poland [405]


How pathetic. First and foremost it’s not 1960’s as you have stated but 1950 to be exact when first communist propaganda reports appeared making this claim by 1951 they have abounded this claim and you won’t find this kind of reports in official press. To give credibility to the report they often quoted the supposed confession of American pilot Robert Hilard who was shut down over Korea and allegedly confessed to taking part in air drop of colorado beetle over East Germany, which brings us to a second point even the communist propaganda machine at the time was not stupid enough to make a direct claim as to American involvement over Polish territory at the time. The media campaign at the time aimed to force the use of pesticide like Polish made azotox or Soviet produced HCH not to mention gamex or DDT to which your average uneducated “potato farmer” as you have put it was reluctant to use and once sarcastic jokes started to be wildly circulated among the population they abandoned this claim. Here’s an example of one such joke:

“Did you know that the Soviets have used their airforce to plant over 2 million hectares of crops? Ha you call this “News”. As a matter of fact Americans were the first to use their airforce for agricultural purpose. Howe’s that? Who do you suppose made a beetle drop over East Germany?

Since most of the independent farmers were against the use of pesticide over their fields even though they were find 500 zloty for the refusal many did and the government organized youth brigades of beetle pickers a much more eco friendly approach to deal with the problem. Today we all know what the effects of DDT are. By 1954 even the official press published sarcastic remarks aimed at the official campaign of the time. For instance in popular magazine “Szpilki” of that time one can read "Jak nam donoszą nasi korespondenci, w gminie Głuchów (pow. skierniewicki) pojawił się wyjątkowo złośliwy gatunek stonki. Kiedy dzielna drużyna przeciwstonkowa z gromady Byczki wyruszyła w pole – stonka nie stawiała oporu. Połów był duży, ale cóż się okazało po powrocie do bazy? Oto złośliwa stonka zamieniła się w same koniki polne..."

Fact is that while there were claims of 10 thousand places in Poland where an unusually large groups of beetle population was reported all of which were located in Western Poland btw, by 1956 there were 72 thousand such places reported all over the country. The moral of the story is that due to the reluctance of uneducated potato farmers to believe their government official position and campaign to use the new wonder cure DDT, even the mighty communist propaganda had to change their tactics and approach in dealing with this crisis.


Surely you jest.

Edit: Normally I would ignore this but once too many times I have seen comments such as “potato farmer” or “wieśniak” on your part. So what’s wrong with being a potato farmer in your view? or Wieśniak?

Life / SOME OBSERVATIONS ABOUT POLAND AND POLISH SOCIETY [297]


Why keep it a secret then? Post the damn recipe and I’ll cook it myself if I have to, I’m game perhaps even in need of trying something new, I’ll even post a review.

Edit: not a big fan of pea soup but everything else I’m willing to try as long it’s authentic Scottish cuisine. I hope you keep it in mind that it’s not a competition, seriously my taste buds are looking forward to try something new.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


I guess Israel is still in a womb then, refusing to own up to Commie past responsible for millions of deaths as well as the apartheid system they created in Israel on par with the one they complain the most about (Nazi Germany), Palestinian issue; systematic discrimination, oppression, displacement of an entire ethnic group, lasting nearly a century now, their impact on the relations with their neighbors, Arab states etc. The list is long indeed, so far Jews are at the toddler stage, “He made me do it”, “They want to push us to the sea”. Coming of age, indeed.

I always thought that ESP was a pseudo-science but in Israel it’s a well establish fact and remarkably every Jew has that ability no matter where they are. As we say it here in Poland “Strach ma wielkie oczy”. Indeed when you commit such horrid crimes against others just a thought of what might happen to you once the tables are turned is enough to scare the living crap out of you and paranoia sets in.


I see that this entire debate has been lost on you, just a waste of time when one refuses to listen. One day you will find yourself in a similar circumstances and b**ch about your predicament once more, but that seems to be the pattern with you, repeated over and over, time and time again like a vicious circle throughout time. You resist the lessons of history at all cost, always the victim never the villain. This eye for an eye mentality of yours and then some even if it’s not the right eye you are poking at, but who cares you’re entitled so what difference does it make who suffers as a result or who you take your frustration out on. This need of yours to satisfy that most primitive of instincts the need for revenge, which never in your case seem to be enough, is it now?

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Still haven’t fully grasp the time period idea, have you? Let's see 1946-8 and 1968 a separation of 20 years, get it? One emigration to swell the numbers in a newly forming state another internal power struggle, is it really that hard to comprehend?

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


And vice versa.


If it was who was it spread by? For what purpose? To hasten the departure of the reluctant ones to promise land perhaps?
Way too many questions and speculation which will never be resolved on their own if there’s no open dialog or at least a willingness to talk about such things.


Never said you were but the tactics you employ are, don’t talk about it, ridicule if you can or simply ignore it, it just might go away (out of sight out of mind).

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Exactly, who were those people and what was the motivation to insight the violence. Your own brethren were in power and did nothing to prevent those unfortunate incidents. It really should give you something to think about. Decent folks were encouraged to emigrate only to be replaced by Implants who had no ties to Poland therefore would not care. They were the ones that ruined your reputation so deal with it. I never heard of anyone really badmouthing anyone who was a Jew prior to the war. Worst ever said they kept to themselves, however after the war it's a whole new ball game especially when one of your relatives died for being a member of AK fighting Nazis and the prosecutor or presiding Judge was a Jew. That’s the reason for the relationship to go sour but who’s willing to admit that?

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Unlike Poles Jews were encouraged and allowed to leave by their brethren in power.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

On contraire, Poland was hell for all of the decent Jews, wounds still fresh and plenty of bad memories of Nazi horror recently experienced, devastation all around, nothing really to go back to. There was a new promise land for them forming in the ME believe it or not news of which reached Poland too and if you have to start all over again why not in a place where you have not experience such horrors. As for the Implants Poland must have looked like paradise compared to the hell hole they crawled out of, where they could do what they please, knowing nothing of how civil society functions which btw they proved through their actions.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Internal bickering over desired positions which proves that they were held by the Jews and Polish communists envied.


If there ever was such a great mistrust back in 40’s there wouldn’t be any purges in the late 60’s at which time 14,000 top positions finally open to the Poles previously held by Jews with no party affiliation whatsoever, what a joke.


So tell me how many brown shirts did it take for Hitler to terrorize every decent German into submission or at least to keep them all quiet and not to interfere on behalf of their neighbors. Repressions against Jews already started,were they all blind or just supporting Nazi ideology? I mean 70 million people is a lot to handle, they were all were Nazis I suppose. Not so many I’ll bet, draw a parallel from your own society before making a ridicules argument claiming not to understand Polish mentality is it really that different? Being German yourself you would have to admit that burning desire is a hell of a motivating factor for few well placed nuts in the government to make a hell of a mess of things. I mean to sell the idea of exterminating entire people to the rest of German society and for them to remain silent, hell even their own mentally retarded or political opponents. Even today most people are a-political and don’t even participate in elections. Minority Seem to rule majority of the so called sophisticated democratic states of today.


So are the Jews, it doesn’t take much for Jewish zealot to take his frustration out on next best thing (Pole) if he doesn't know any better, it's not out of the question either. Hell they still whine about the fact that it all took place on Polish soil and not fully come to grips on what had truly transpired at that time, funny as it may seem many of them are convinced of the fact it was the Poles, I guess they skipped school for the most important lesson in their own recent history otherwise they would have known it was the Nazis. We’re not talking about some uneducated morons either but respected journalist with crafty titles like “Polish concentration camp.”


I thought we established that they were implants, perhaps not as good as the Hollywood plastic sergeant can make them these days but just the same.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


3.5 million you are talking about was at the height of communism in Poland 1970’s at which point people already had to come to terms with the reality of life. Hell you had to be a member of the party if you wanted to be a principal of some provincial elementary school otherwise you could not have that job, same for any job in a leadership role from director of some factory to God knows what, not to mention the fact of having an access to better schools for your children, perhaps study abroad or even travel. Yes lot have took the advantage of the perks’ that system offered, well after the retribution and purges of what was deemed to be a dangerous element capable of toppling the New Communist regime, but we are talking about the period right after the war when all those retributions of the AK members took place, so yes the upper echelon were Jewish and Polish communist membership minuscule.

BTW the great numbers you sited somehow still manege to stand against the system and participated in genera strikes, showing real commitment on their part to the system.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

At its height the Nazi membership numbered over 2 million members. Were all of them committed to the Ideology or simply signed on to enhance their career opportunities or perhaps even keep an existing job. Being a member and firmly believing in the Ideology are two different things. Being a member opened an opportunity for you which otherwise you could never have which reflects on the reality of the system you live in, not the beliefs you have. Were they all Nazi nuts, of course not only few at the very top and those were the ones that did most damage to the society as a whole, same in Poland during the communist rule.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


It’s Irrelevant to this topic “Wikipedia's Holocaust article to include genocide of Poles” worthy of its own thread but mucking those statements won’t change that facts. It's still a point of resentment between the two, Poles and Jews; as long as it is ignored it will remain just that. In my opinion this should be examined more closely and seriously discussed but fat chance of that ever happening, this would mean admitting wrong doing on the part of Jews so this subject remains a taboo, ridiculed and swapped aside, some day perhaps.


Perhaps that’s why so many of them still b**ch about the purges of 1968.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


You tell me, you have so many definitions as to what it means to be a Jew, pick one it’s just as good a guess as the next one.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Implants from Soviet Union that helped Commies.


Some were, most were implants that changed their name to reflect Polishness even if they had nothing to do with Poland.


As in every society, my guess not enough Russians spoke good enough German to be mistaken for one.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Sure, some were killed for helping AK member, the Jewish communist still managed to finish off those poor souls after the war, didn’t they? In fact they made it their priority instead of hunting Nazis, it threatened their fragile position in power and we know what the greatest deterrent is. Terrorize the population they are weary of the 6 years of war anyway.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


Why not? Jews be it French, Hungarian, German, Polish etc. are all thrown in the same basket, counted as one. So why not Slavs? Nazi Ideology did not make distinction along national lines, it talked about Slavs in general be it Russian Polish etc. I’m sure you would love to make that distinction.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


One has to admit the killing perpetrated by Nazis had an ideological element to it, racial purity presented by the Jews as the main cause of their suffering. The number of Slavs that died during the war is much, much greater than that of the Jews, so getting into this discussion with you is kind of moot.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]

If someone out there wants to kill you do you really give a damn what his reason might be, you’re dead just the same. Besides Nazis killed for many reasons racial purity being one of them, so yes one could argue that Orthodox Slavs were marked, targeted and killed in the name of some ideology and for the same reason as Jews.


Religion is not the same as nationality, but to be honest more Orthodox Russians died as a result then Jews, so yes they can truly say we have experienced Holocaust. Perhaps even argue that because they had grater number of casualties it was aimed at them.

History / Poles and (Polish) Jews... Victims of war... and beyond [380]


By now you should be used to the idea that it is all about Jews. Revealing the truth about the events of WWII or the role Jews played in the communist past, it’s simply not in line with the popular view thought in the west. Be careful you’re threading a dangerous path; soon you’ll be labeled racist and anti-Semite for daring to speak up like the rest of us. In the end anyone who dares to speak the truth is labeled just that.


See it starts already.


What choice would that be? To prolong their suffering only to meet the same fate in the end from both of our enemies Nazis and Communists, some choice. As I recall many Jews also had a choice aligning themselves with the Soviets, most did.


Hence the Jewish media focus on Polish concentration camps in recent years to imply the opposite of what really happened, distorting the history in the process or at least creating the confusion in the mind of the reader who already had been thought one sided vague history of those events; therefore the notion of collaboration easily implanted in a feeble mind which suits you just the same and any voice of discontent is just a proof of wide spread ant-Semitism.

The simple truth is that no matter how you count the number of deaths even if it’s along religious lines instead of national, the number of casualties among other religious groups such as Orthodox is still about eight times greater than those of the Jewish faith.

Food / Do you call it kiszka or kaszanka? [55]


Perhaps you meant Western Poland because all the people from Eastern Poland were resettled there after the WWII or are we forgetting where we came from already? What are you trying to say? only people from western Poland are modern. Mosiek z kresów hence the nick, I suppose.

BTW you forgot to mention “żymlok”.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

So are the Germans. Even the Germans in US considered me to be German, I wonder what give them that Idea.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]

Well, on my travels through US I met a lot of people. One of them claimed to be Irish, when I asked how you can be so sure. The answer was because we cook Irish food in my household. Now if you base your ethnicity on the food you eat then sometimes I must be Chinese. That’s Americans for you.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]


Mind you we are talking about Americans, they claim a lot of things. The mixture is high among them.

History / What Was Happening in Poland around 1905? [73]


Perhaps but it still makes you wonder how many of them really know their roots. They look at the records it said German therefore I’m German.