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The Two Saddest Nations on Earth... Poles and Jews [243]
what nations is the OP referring to when he says the 2 saddest nations are poles and jews?
I know about Poland. But Israel is only 63 years young.
Perhaps therein lies the problem? After all, there is absolutely no denying that the jews themselves separated themselves as a separate entity from the general polish population, it was not the Germans or Polish who did this.
It kind of bothers me also when black people expect special treatment or entitlements from me, personally, because whites were slave owners at some point in the past in some place... of course in those instances there can be no doubt about who is black or who is white... nonetheless I have zero ancestors in the USA prior to 1900 so therefore, I am actually excluded from any attached guilt... nonetheless I can recognize, like most people, that segregation was generally forced upon blacks, not vice versa.. you'll notice how here and there when a person with black linage looks very white they also tend to mix very well with the white population. We cannot say this is true of east european jews.
so, who separated the jews and why should be the first questions here. (hint: it was not the germans or the polish).
'Jew' refers to a person's religious beliefs, perhaps their lineage. Pole does not refer to a person's religious beliefs, only their lineage. If a polish person from Warsaw PL were to move to Muncie Indiana, and if then the rest of Muncie, Indiana, recognized that person as the polish nation then perhaps it would be possible also to say that miscellaneous jewish people living around the world are also the jewish nation.
But this does not happen. To Poles, to Germans, to Dutch, to Japanese, to anyone, anywhere.
perhaps that is the only sad thing we need to discuss. the fact that 'jews' of all colors and creeds and lineage keep insisting that they are a nation. and dumb people everywhere look for the borders of the jewish nation until they get wise to the joke and it's utter impossibility.
I was reading somewhere that a bunch of orthodox ashkenazi jews were arrested in Israel for refusing to send their children to school with dark skinned sephardi jews. Interestingly enough, no one questions the origins of the sephardic jews. Yet, jews of east european origin often feel offended by the mere presence of Sephardic jews, as their own actions in Israel, today, make clear. Mostly the problem, in reality, is that the sephardic jews do not teach the Talmud like the orthodox ashkenazis do teach their children.
Most likely then, it was merely the oft unspoken desire of the 'jews' which demands separation and at least in their own minds, a better place above the rest of the despicable natural population of any given country.. because they truly believe they are better, they should be first, all of that we've all heard for so many years.. ideas which many 'jews' are prone to follow. We see this everywhere.. certain segments of populations screaming for rights and justice. They are clamouring mostly to be recognized as full-fledged citizens of their respective nations in which they now live. In the case of east european jewry however, history clearly shows a group of people claiming to nationals of a country which never existed (except in their own minds). We could say jewish nationalism is a myth to begin with. In fact we should say it. But at any rate, this jewish clamouring for equal rights and civil liberties extended far beyond the desire to simply be recognized. It also generally included demands for a 'jewish' nation with it's own set of laws for jews first and others second (quite discriminatory, just visit israeli law today for a quick rundown) within whatever nation the 'jews' in question found themselves at the moment.
The polish people have never demanded such a thing from other nations. So the comparison dead ends right there.
