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Tacitus   
9 Dec 2020
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

The idea that 4m people were murdered in Auschwitz had been put into question by Western historians in the early 1960s and debunked by the 1970s. It was the communist government who insisted on the number because they wanted to keep Auschwitz as the symbol of the Holocaust. The scale of the Holocaust was however never affected by this, since the number of victims of at leaat more than 5m is well supported by evidence. They were just not all murdered in KZs, but also decentrally by SS, Wehrmacht, Einsatzgruppen and so on.

On how the Nazis identified Jews:

aboutholocaust.org/en/facts/how-did-the-germans-know-who-was-jewish
Tacitus   
9 Dec 2020
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

Where is their reparations ?

You mean aside from Königsberg and the billions taken from the GDR as reparation?

number is what is in question

But nowhere the extent you seem to believe

How would they know that a guy is Jewish?

They usually checked birth certificates but if there was no documentation, particulary in Eastern Europe, they were likely to just kill anyone remotely suspected.
Tacitus   
9 Dec 2020
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

who is a Jew?

Whoever was deemed as Jewish by the Nazis.

Like with global warming.

This is actually a good example on how that does not work. Oil companies tried their best to bury the evidence, financing studies that tried to seed doubts but now global warming is accepted as a fact by the scientific community.

Holocaust denial is an exercise in futility. Because there is simply no denying the many written sources that describe it. Which is why no Holocaust denier has ever attempted this, since they know there is no good explanation as to how this could have been faked. We are talking about millions of documents, spread in various archives across all of Europe.

Letters from German soldiers to their families in which they allude to having seen mass killings in the woods. Private diaries in which they go into more details. Official division diaries in which the commander notes how they rounded up families which were suspected of being Jewish and executed them in the woods. Official letters to local authorities, telling them that the "evacuated" Jews to the Eastern Territories had perished. And so on.
Tacitus   
9 Dec 2020
History / Should David Irving, Holocaust denier, be allowed to run tours to Poland? [246]

It was much closer to half that but still..

Their is no respectable historian who would put the number below 5m victims, there is too many written evidence backing it up. Whether or not 5.5m or 6.5m were killed is up to debate, but the scale of the Holocaust does not really change either way.

Such numbers are usually from one source

Nonsense. There are few historical topics that have attracted so much attention from scholars like the Holocaust.
Tacitus   
18 Nov 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

You mean someone who turns his country into a autocracy and who abused public funds to enrich himself and his family?

patriot that invests in infrastructure more

It is the EU that invests.
Tacitus   
18 Nov 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

1. Its a constitution nevertheless and a pretty good one which is why we kept it after 1990. Besides Grundgesetz and Constitution have the same meaning. Yeah it was originally hoped that it would only be temporary, but its' authors knew that it could last a long time and thus made sure it was designed as a lon-term solution. Hell, the American founding fathers expected their constitution to last a generation but it is still holding up (though it is showing its' age).

2. There is no need for a popular vote since it was drafted by democratic legitimated politicians. In fact most democratic constitutions have never been submitted to a popular vote.
Tacitus   
18 Nov 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

Spike, you are really embarrasing yourself here to anyone who has even a modicum of knowledge on the subject.

1. Germany has of course a constitution (in fact Polish lawywrs and other Eastern European countries looked into it before they wrote their own).

2. The criticism against lay judges is just an outlier and one that is not widely shared by experts. The high hurdles to become one are of course intentionsl since you don't want anybody to decide the fate of someone.

It worst it awards undue influence to local authorities with no influence on the bigger picture . Whereas the Polish justice reform is de facto a power grab by the Polish government with serious implications for the rule of law. But don't worry, the EU will help protect Poland's democracy!
Tacitus   
17 Nov 2020
News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]

I have ever heard of only one such instance where a gay parade was physically attacked

The internet is full of articles describing such events.

I'm glad to know real Poles to set some things straight, really I am!

Sadly, they are not telling the truth here, or at least not the whole picture. Yeah, those LBGTQ-free zones are not expelling those minorities, but they are doing their best to create and maintain an hostile atmosphere against them with the hope that they leave on their own. The framing itself calling it "LBGT-ideology" instead of the simple wish for equality speaks volumes.
Tacitus   
17 Nov 2020
News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]

You never hear of a gay,jew,muslim,black being beaten up in the streets of Poland

Whenever you have a gay pride parade in Poland, you have violent protesters trying to attack them with only the police holding them back.

if by discrimination you mean not allowing gay marriages or adopting children

That is textbook discrimination, particulary the latter one. There is no good reason why two gay people should not be able to raise a child as good as a hetero couple, or a even a single parten.

Germany for a start.

That is not "teaching gayism". It is just educating children that LBGTQ is a perfectly normal orientation and no foundation for discrimination as it should be.
Tacitus   
8 Nov 2020
History / Do Polish people in general dislike Russia or Germany more? [369]

Not sure if I agree with the article. No doubt the series helped illustrating the horros of the Holocaust, but the engagement with the past had already started in the early 1960s with several high-profile trials. This statue of limitation for murder was also for the first time prolonged for 15 years in 1965 because of this (and then abolished in 1979). The protests in 1968 was also partly motivated by the shock over the crimes of the previous generation that had come into the open.
Tacitus   
26 Oct 2020
Genealogy / Are Sorbs Polish? Does anyone know about Sorbish enthnicity? [62]

. In hindsight, the rapid unification was a total economic disaster and much of Eastern Germany still hasn't recovered from it.

I would argue that every indicator points in the opposite direction. East Germany has a tremendous rising in living standards, income and life expectancy. Was everything handled perfectly? Of course not, but that is to be expected by a project of that scale and which is unprecedented in history. If we are looking for losers, they might be found in e.g. the Ruhr Valley, whose cities were already in debt and had to take on even more debt to finance the transfer payments, not to mention all the Western money that could have been invested in the crumbling infrastructure of Western Germany.
Tacitus   
24 Oct 2020
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

(I read about it in so many sources

Which is why I wanted a source because every article I found indicates a reliability over 90%.

I mean that argument doesn't carry any weight.

It actually does, because in a proper democracy, the majority can not impose every kind of law on the minority without restriction, otherwise we have a tyranny of the majority. Laws need to be justified and provided with proper arguments, not just with something one may call a superstition.

Are you for the right to own a gun, dismantle of a welfare state, low taxes and a small government?

None of those points are related to forcing someone to carry a child against their will.

Hell, I have made even a stronger case for a bank robber using YOUR 'logic'.

I really wanna see you try that.

The foundation of your argumemts appear to be really poor if you have to use such false equivalences and exaggerations.
Tacitus   
24 Oct 2020
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

still, we have to remember that about 50%

I would like a source for that.

How generous of them!

This is easy to say from a position of someone who never faced the consequences of doing so, or ever will.

but a moral one

Indeed. Religion should not have any place in setting laws since not everybody believes in it and expecting non-believers to carry a baby becausw of religious sentiments is wrong. In question of moral, it depends on whether someone believes that a lumb of celle can already be considered human and whether it is justified that the state gets so much power over the female body. In my opinion, forcing women to carry children against their will is only befitting a dictatorship.We allow contraception, we allow people to prevent sperm and egg from meeting each other, but immediately after they do it this is supposedly a different story?

Banning abortion is wrong, both ethically and practocally (nvm cases where it should be available without discussion e.g. rape or birth defects). It allows the state control over womens' bldy to an undue degree and it forces women into illegal abortions that may endanger their life.

whether one can have sound morality

Wait, this is debateable in your opinion? I mean even Aristotle pointed out before the birth of Christianity that this is indeed possible.
Tacitus   
23 Oct 2020
News / Abortion still under control in Poland [2986]

I can understand the reasoning behind banning abortions for healthy babys. I don't agree with it but I can see why people would see it as wrong.

However forcing mothers to carry baby's to term who might have severe birth defects seems wrong to me. Because in the end, this is not just a question of convenience. Having healthy children is a large commitment, but it is one that can be calculated and usually has a happy ending once they move out when they are old enoguh. Depending on the kind of birth defect, this is far from guaranteed for children who are born with them. They might remain in need of care for their entire (hopefully long life) which often falls to the responsibility of their parents. The problem is in my opinion, that often people who are against abortions might do so on sound principles, but don't have any experience what it is like to raise a child like this. They have no idea what it may mean for everyone involved. It can become a rewarding experience, but it can also utterly destroy a family.

I'd like to share a personal story regarding this.

Two friends of my parents - who were very religious - decided to have a baby that was predicted to have severe birth defects. The doctors told them that children like this one have an average life expectancy of 10 years, but they nevertheless wanted one. The conditions were seemingly good. Both were teachers, thus had a secure job, and one son already. The mother decided to stay mostly at home for a few years and care for the child. The first months were rough, the baby needed several surgeries, but it recovered and developed decently (under those conditions, it still needed around the clock care) for the first few years until it was old enough to go to school. The parents had hopes that it might have a relatively normal childhood, and thanks to medical advances, it might even become an adult. But than it started to regress. The parents had to watch as their child declined steadily, it stopped walking, speaking, became almost blind and so on. It spend the last two years in a hospital until it finally died before its' tenth birthday. It was a horrible time for them. I've met them only a few times, but as their boy grew worse, so did they. Especially the mother looked at the end as if she had aged twice as fast, and the father developed an alcohol problem. Their older child became troubled, partly because their parents were forced to divert their attention almost exclusively to their youngest child, and partly because it was also horrible for him watching his younger brother slowly die. He managed to turn it around and now goes to university, but he lost his faith in god and e.g. refused to have a confirmation ceremony. He supposedly told his parents when asked "There is no god, because why would a benevolent god make my poor brother suffer like this? And if there is one, he must be pure evil and does not deserve my worship." An understandably point of view from his perspective if you ask me.

Bottom line, the decision to have this baby not only caused the child a lof of suffering, it also destroyed their family and marriage. Again, this was not even a matter of finances, but the stress and emotional pain to have a child and watch it suffer and die. If a family has the courage to take on such a burden, they are deserving of any praise and assistance one can offer. But nobody should be forced to do so.
Tacitus   
19 Oct 2020
Off-Topic / DALMATIA - How much Poles love Dalmatia ? [123]

grawe

What is that supposed to mean?

Croats? Its project old about 200 years

Croats are first mentioned in ancient Byzantine sources from the 7th century as part of the Byzantine Empire. An independent duchy of Croatia is confirmed for the 9th century, more than half a century before the same is known about Serbia. Croats precede Serbs by all accounts.
Tacitus   
19 Oct 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

weighted Party for the last 150 years in the Supreme Court.

What are you talking about? There has been a conservative majority of 5:4 judges for as long as I can remember. Which just goes to show how broken the US system is, in which a minority can dominate the system.
Tacitus   
19 Oct 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

@Michel88

Correct me if I'm wrong but there are almost no Czechs and Hungarians in Western Europe.

I can't really speak for Western Europe, but migration to Germany is particulary high from Hungary. In 2019 we had 35k migrants from Hungary and e.g. 130k from Poland. Thus in relation to population size, we had more migrants from Hungary than Poland.

de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/157446/umfrage/hauptherkunftslaender-der-zuwanderer-nach-deutschland-2009/

nothing about judiciary in Poland

The issue is the rule of law. When Poland joined the EU, it pledged to remain a state in which the rule of law is respected and in which the government would not take undue influence on the judiciary. The justice reform has put this in jeopardy. Even if you believe that the current government won't abuse the power it has given itself, it still opens the door to future transgressions. It is just not a good idea to give a simple majority the power to appoint judges without any compromise, as evidenced right now in the USA.
Tacitus   
16 Oct 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

I hope it's clear so far?

Not really, this just sounds like a lot of paranoia to me, unless you can actually back it up with some tangible examples when Germany formulated policies to this effect. As if Berlin was constantly plotting to keep the Eastern Europeans down.

from a German point of view?

The main problem from a German point of view is that Poland under PiS has stopped playing a constructive role and indeed stopped playing an active role at all in Europe. That is regrettable because Poland could be an invaluable partner but I fear that won't be possible for as long as PiS under the great chairman rules Poland.

ways which you can use against Poland

Don't mix up different issues. 1. That Poland is seen as in violation with the rule of law on several issues has nothing to do with Germany, but with the Polish governments' willingness to breach those rules. 2. If Poland is decisvely declared to be in violation by the EuGH which may happen soon than it will be necessary to talk about the EU funds going to Poland. 3. This comment was directed at Hungary, which - while not the best choice of word - is rather justified. Orban and his cronies have grown rich by using the EU funds for their own means, building train and big stadium in Orban's home town, and of Orban's relatives becoming one of the richest men in Hungary by receiving government projects funded by the EU.
Tacitus   
16 Oct 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

What identify as Germany's supposed interest is based on your own sentiment and not reality. Germany wishes to see Eastern Europe prosper, and has in fact invested more into this project than any other country. This is not some zero sum game but one where everybody wins. There is no need for any clash and I doubt there will be one in the first place.

new political change

What "new political change" are you talking about?
Tacitus   
16 Oct 2020
News / Years of Poland in the EU - assessment of pros and cons [1199]

The EU treaties allow each country to have a minimum wage and grant them the ability to enforce it.

pay the same wages

That is not what is happening. Polish companies are not forced to pay the same as German companies, they are just bound to the same rules as German companies are. It prevents them from exploiting their workers. I mean let us be clear here. The minimum wage in Germany is very low. It barely allows for a living. Forcing your qorkers to go below that while they live in Germany is exploitation.

is usually bad for German interests

You keep saying that, but so far you haven't really pointed out those fundamentally different interests.

And as side note, even if Poland had different interests, it could not do a worse job to realize them if they tried. Self-isolation is never a smart move in European politics.

that you could have sorted this

Any ideas how? I mean the basic idea behind the minimum wage is to assure that workers can actually live from the work they are doing without government aid. The only alternative would have been to allow German companies to undercut it and for the state to pay the difference. However this not only would have defeated the purpose of minimum wage, it would also have been illegal state aid. If you look at it ovjectively, this was the only legal and fair solution. Honestly, I dont want to think that the guys working at a local construction site are doing their backbreaking work for like 2€ an hour.