Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


From enemies foreign and domestic.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


I should be able to purchase and take a gun to my home. As its perfectly legal in case of a car.


That is not the point. The point is I cannot buy one or keep it in my house without license.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


You don't need a driving license to buy a car. You need license to drive it on public road, if you drive it abound in your backyard you're good.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Why? To defend their town, village or a neighborhood in case of war or whatnot. That makes a lot of sense.


Really? Who are you to deny me right to buy what I want? Tyrant, upstart?


that is bad and needs to be changed.


Shouldn't have to grand permission for something that should be within your right. What is Polish passport? confirmation of the citizenship or identity card for peasants.


Generally they don't. That is what ROMB is complaining about, you can have all legal requirements fulfilled to a T, and some unelected Dick can refuse you (and does, more oft than not) that 'permit' on a whim or expecting a little brown envelop.

In fact power of discretion vested by law on bureaucracy is one of reasons that bureaucracy in Poland is inefficient, corrupt and redundant.


What are you about?>
Why would they invest money into something that wouldn't guarantee them return of their investments i.e. permit?

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


A right - is a moral or a legal entitlement to have or do something. If you agree that people have a moral right to won a gun, why would you deny them that right to be realized on legal grounds?

Unless you think about a legal right in that case you're mistaken. They don't have that right. That is a privilege and on the top of it the law that exists at the moment is not legally binding. As it is completely within discretion of a commented of the local police to grand such a permit or not. Since commandant is not elected in a local election he doesn't give a rat's ass about what people (the local constituency) thinks about him.


Simple as that is that you have no clue. Enough said - why don't you go to ROMB webpage and see how that looks in reality.


To do what? Stop an offensive of few tanks division supported by air forces and boots on the ground? Of course not! Nobody claimed that.

As for a local defense forces, armed with a light weaponry, machine guns, MANPADS, .50 caliber, shoulder fired, semi-automatic sniper rifles, shoulder-launched anti-tank rockets and more, can make it impossible and too costly to keep and occupy conquered territory.

Lines of communion necessary to support and provisions those divisions would be extremely sensitive to such a local forces.

Law / The right to own guns: would you support such legislation in Poland? [2237]


Well, about the same number of Poles thinks that homosexuality is not normal. Which is pretty high if you think about all those grand's and money that are being send from abroad including America to promote and impose different views and standing on the issue. Still, you think that is nothing wrong with people that would like to force pro-gay legislation on Poland - that hypocrisy.


Even if your estimate is correct that doesn't negate anything Johnny said. There IS an increase and people have a right to rise and awareness and to whippy up support, prepare a ground, educate people for such a legislation to be introduced in Poland at the later date.

There is no reason why people should be able to arm themselves if they wish to do so.


Those right equal no right at all. Unless you are cozy with a local commandant of the police.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]

Lyzko, in your case symptoms are typical for paranoid delusion coupled with victim mentality. Sure hope you're not medicated up to your eyeballs.

News / "A merciful heart can share its bread with the hungry and welcome refugees and migrants" Pope Francis [89]

"refugees and migrants"
Migrants is rather ambiguous what that even means without context. As for refugees - fair enough there is nothing new in this. Thing is, to be refugee one need to fulfill a certain conditions, those illegal immigrants from the middle east or God knows where from, do not met.


No, roots of all evil are stupid little, selfish people.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]



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What's that?

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


I have already asked you twice that very question that you have no answer for. Either answer it or be quiet.


What do you care? You're not even Jewish yourself. You're pretender.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


You're clearly trolling Lyzko. I'm not going to ask you again to explain a certain contradiction that belie your opinion about CC. You have no answer that's clear.

News / Anti-Defamation League want Macierewicz (Poland defense minister) appointment withdrawn - GW [42]

Well, he is right. On two counts, Rossati doesn't represents Poles and in the case of Kielce provocation.

It make no sense to talk about anti-Semitism. However I'm used to your usual drivel and I'll not ask.

UK, Ireland / Ireland and Poland - ways of struggling for independence [43]


Geez man let it go. What do you need it for?


In what world? Was it in a different dimension?

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


Those who doesn't know what they're talking about, should keep their ignorant opinions to themselves.


Evidently they haven't learned on the mistakes from the past.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


I think you're the only one that see something that is not there. I'm anti-stupid and anti-BS. I keep asking you for facts not your opinion.

You're typical Bull-shter, I disagree with you therefore I must be some or other. In your mind that is.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


You clearly don't understand context and Christian sprit. I'm not a saint like JPII and I know that people like you given a chance would take all for nothing and demand more. From me you can get a finger! Come back when and if you learn something and when and if you'll cast off your ignorant prejudice, you xenophobic gnat. :)

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


You have no answer, that is the short and the long of it.
Perpetual victimhood and a sense of being wronged by the world might be interesting a case in study. However it doesn't strike me as an attitude that can form a solid foundation for any rational thought.

Most of what you presume or what you say in here is simply incorrect. Beside sojourns in your world that give us a glimpse of an unhinged mind. There no much else we can do for you.

While you're busy casting Catholic Church as a villain. I think that its appropriate to use certain caveats here.
People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. (In regard to some teaching on gentiles in Jewish religion)
You should first explain why is that that the Jewish people survived, until modern times,( and thrived) in Catholic countries? Mind you, nowhere else.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]

Are you trolling Lyzko?
I doubt that you have ever been in Poland. Came to think about it you might not even be Jewish.


They have been wondering why're you making such strange noises. Given your obvious inability to write a simple sentence correctly in that language.


Look at that. Isn't that strange that Jews haven't surveyed anywhere beside Catholic countries> until the modern times#? You're not very bright are you and you're communist as well, that clear.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


So you say but I'm waiting and waiting.
Unjustified generalization is all that you say and then some sly remarks. If you put Poland into the same category as Germany - that is not rational. If you talk about guilt in the context of Poland - that is not rational.


Don't be a dick.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


No, you failed to make your point. It is not my fault that you have nothing to say apart from a sly underhanded remarks that make no sense. Perhaps make perfect sense but only to you and your friends - prejudices.


If we're at this low point, from now on I'm going to call you my little Jewish schmuck who would do anything for money including extortion. Still you have no argument and no facts.


You're talking crap and you still have no facts or arguments to support your particular racist view on Poland and Poles. I think that lies and sander about Poles gives them bad name not actually anything they have done.


You're really dumb aren't you? I'm not blaming victims. It is who is doing just that by putting Poles who were as much victims as Jews in this war in the same category as those responsible for all that vile afoul stuff that had happened.


Are you one of these commies that throws ham inside Synagogues out of spite? You seems the type - opinionated, ignorant.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]

Sound to me like you are rationalizing as well as justifying a latent anti-Polish prejudices, hate amongst your brethren.


No, I don't understand. Poland is and was nothing like Germany or Lithuanian and that is the crux of the matter, your know nothing but your grandma tales. What more you refuse to learn.

Majority of so called Jews in Poland nowadays are soviets, commies and such or their progeny. I'm pretty certain that those few Jews left in Poland who have no ties to Soviet oppressive regime doesn't hate Poland or Poles.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


Sound to me that you have no facts and no case. Instead of learning about reality you prefer your own comfortable prejudices. I have asked you in the past to stop implying things and talk about facts. If pressed you're mumbling something about Jedwabne or anti-Semitism.

Do you think that anybody give a crap anymore? You have been overusing this word swigging your accusations left, right and center and it is not working anymore.

After all you're all white middle class racists that oppress a poor exploited black people. That is getting all, either you have some thing to support your opinion or that is your opinion. Opinions are like a-holes everybody has one.

What there is such a hate towards Poles from a large chunk of Jewish community in the USA? eh? Why all those lies and BS? Anti-Polish much?


Sure, as soon as they heard accusation, demands and BS.

Life / Being a Jew in modern-day Poland; Israeli Jew who is of Polish descent [279]


You have a very specific vision of the Jewish in Poland. Look I understand that war and all colored it that way but if you look at the Jewish community in Poland in the 30'. They're not worse off that Jewish in the USA at the time and much better than in few other countries west of Poland. They have full citizenship and rights. they have been protected by the law. They have had their own organizations, parties and all and sundry, could cultivate their culture and religion without any state imposed barriers, could have study on Polish universities, a privilege granted to them in the early 60' in the USA.

Whatever happened during the war has nothing to do with general attitude of the Polish people. Cut the crap!


what they were looking for? Heartily welcome? People ought to be suspicious by then and after 40 years of soviet occupation nobody would have time for some spoiled westerners coming from the differed world.

Most people would have seen a Jew only on TV.

I would say that people in the early 90' were interested in the past and in the past shared with Jews to. However Defamation league and all those various attack mainly from the American Jews on Poles and their history changed that warm, welcoming and open attitude into - WTF? What are they going say about Poles again? If you hate us so much - F!OFF!

Study / Studying in Poznan for an Arab student. [25]

The real issue is that some people might take you for a Muslim but even that just common sense should suffice to avoid problems.

UK, Ireland / Why are Polish people, especially women, so disrespectful toward the English? [442]


where cretins like that are coming from? geez, before the internet people were more optimistic as to the state of humanity. Too much chemical's in the water ....

Genealogy / The typical Polish look, or all Eastern Europeans [676]


Son, what ethnicity is USA>? Is there one? Poland was like USA for more than half of her history. Meaning that on elements of Tatars, Armenians, Germans, Dutch, French, Italian, Gypsy, Jewish, including all nearby Slavic components have the right to be in your DNA and your ancestors could rightly and proudly call themselves Poles.

There is no 'typical: Polish look alas some would point out that bird-like (eagle like) noses, prominent cheekbones blue eyes and brown hair plus few others details are just that mythical 'Polish look' - personally I don't think such a thing exist.

Not to mention that the language you speak shape your features as different set of muscles are used for different languages.
If your ancestors are Polish then look Polish - what is the problem?

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


Don't be jealous #Douglass, nobody is going to take away your title of the biggest clown on PF.


Douglass learn Polish and learn something about Polish history and culture then and only then you can make comment that would have a chance to reflect Poland's realities somewhat.

Right now you are only making a fool out of yourself by this kind of wildly off mark slogans. Either you are a radical rabid leftie rabble or you known nothing.

To unsuspected reader, I'm not saying all that because I'm somehow connected to PiS and/or Kaczynski but because being that 'nationalistic' label is being repeated by the press, clowns in EC and former president of the USA do not reflect reality in the sightless.

News / New European Council's report: "Poland oasis of racism, xenophobia and homophobia" ... [343]


No it doesn't. I think that is the crux of the matter. You are so used to the fact that having a different color skin should grant a special treatment that you automatically think - racism- when that is not granted.

I dare say that it would be specifically stresses in the article if he was the only person with a different skin coloring. To my mind he was singled out by the bouncers due to his turban.

According to the law he was perfectly within his rights to stop that person from entering premises. However he wasn't nice about it - which is a pretty standard as far as I know amongst bouncers and security people in Poland.

He hasn't been particularly nasty to him just because he was a Shih but he was nasty as matter of course, as he would to any other person he would deem to stop from entering those premises.

The fact that he singled turbaned person out - it doesn't necessary is a nice thing - but it is a very human thing to do, especially with all those issues on the news.

I don't perceive it as a big deal, not nice to that Shih personal that without the doubt but hell he is the one talking, expecting all people to know what Shih is and how his turban differs from Muslims. That is an arrogant assumption. If he persist on wearing that turban everywhere he goes he should understand that there are sometimes consequences to be recon with. Not all the people are mild, tree hugging open minded goodies.


Fair enough, if that the way you want to see it. After all it is likely as some people don't like Muslims.

Still, no law was broken.


Geez, that dude was wearing a turban in a country that haven't seen anything like that for centuries. He was stopped from entering premises due to the whim of some bouncer with inflated ego, not as a matter of the club policy.

That is a snub, but hardly a crime. Even if we agree that was a racism as interpreted today, that is hardly a call for the law to be somehow changed. What would that accomplish?


Yes, increase from 0.001 to 0,01. If there are real problems that would warranty a new law I'm sure many people will support it. The time isn't now.


You can of course have and express your opinion but I would think that you would take a view of somebody that is a native of the country over what you think should that be done.


Appeasing their political friends in a way that would suite their ideological bias.


Nah, that would lead to the policy treating each non white with kids gloves while at the same time keep mistreating Poles. They need a fundamental change.

UK, Ireland / Any Polish Muslims in London? [30]


Really? I doubt that ...but these that do should be deported to Saudi Arabia or those regions.

News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]


More respected than him? You mean to say that are loved by the biased media and used to have better press than him. In fact he was a politician against whom organized hate camping were lunched with downright lies, assassination of character on a daily basis and for years.

They responded with this latter to his summary of the state he found Polish Armed Forces and for which they share joint responsibility. No wonder they try to proceed they backside by writing this pathetic letter but facts are always specking louder than even the most eloquent letter or intricate lies.

As for distinguished, he is one of the veterans of the anti-commie regime struggle, there are indeed few people with a record as distinguished as him. That fact about him is constantly overlooked whereas other figure Michink is constantly prized like some kind of lone hero.

I question that respected part, nowadays respected doesn't cut it. Really a public figure is respected by most. He has more supporters that all those six prissy pansies that signed that letter combined.


You seems to be brushing elbows with the most unrepresentative crowd in Poland. To be able to claim something like that you must be absolutely detached from what is a main stream of Polish culture and traction.


Well, if immigrants to Poland are such a D-heads like you that I think he has raised a legitimate doubt who should be allowed to came to Poland. You have nothing but disrespect and contempt for the country's culture and tradition...