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Ironside   
21 Mar 2017
News / Poles call for EU reforms. [67]

@cms
What you present as a direct result of EU accession could be as well unrelated. You would have to back it up with it with a solid research data.

Some of those points you listed are of a dubious worth even at the first glace.
Even if wages doubled isn't that truth that prices has risen accordingly? Are you talking about wages that has doubled across the social strata or you're talking about median income?

Funny that you're talking about export to EU. You would have to produce data or clarify what export you have in mind. If you're talking about overall exchange with EU countries - golden star not for you.

'discretionary income' Really? What are you basing this on? What this even mean tripled? That is some kind of manipulation or just right away HS. Are you telling me that an average person has three times that much of an income that can be spend or invested in comparison to the same person in 2004? No credits, no deals? Do you even understand what you're saying? That is plainly not true.

Saving tripled? ahem.. clarify.

' unemployment halved' Indeed but is that really an achievement to have like three to four million people emigrate or migrate to foreign countries? Short term solution. Who is gonna pay on peoples retirement fund, health services and all that? Ukrainians?

What I mean as achievements are those:
How many cutting edge technological research centres are in Poland?
How many modern manufacturing facilities producing complex high tech goods?
What percentage of private companies are in Polish hands?
What percentage of small, middle companies in Poland are competitive on the world market in terms of product, income and potential? What percentage of their profits stay in Poland?

What percentage of big companies profits stays in Poland?
What percentage of Poles can afford holiday on foreign shores at least once a year?
What prectegane of Poles own their own household?
what percentage of Poles own a brand new car?
What percentage of Poles have saving that would allowed them not to work for at lest two years?
Ironside   
20 Mar 2017
News / Poles call for EU reforms. [67]

Really???!

stop trolling.
english and Scots are out of the picture.
Germans and French most likely have a different reforms in mind.
Ironside   
20 Mar 2017
News / Poles call for EU reforms. [67]

Then Poland has to join the Euro.

Sure Poland either need to join the Euro and abide by their rules that have been set up by others for their benefit or can opt out from the EU allthoghter.

So either Poland will walk the line as a second tier vassal or will take her chances outside EU.

There is another option - all EU countries could renegotiate all agreements to form a new 'better' EU - less centralized. Knowing German mind-set there is a slim change for that happening.

For Poland there two options:
a, Polexit
b, Poland become vassal of Germans for the foreseeable future.
Ironside   
20 Mar 2017
News / Poles call for EU reforms. [67]

That's a pretty worthless statement, because that also includes people

That could have been said about 99% of all kind of polls. Yet for some reasons you seem to be taking them on their face value when and if you find them agreeable. In this case you don't like those polls because they don't suit you, so you try to undermine them. Sad.

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Poland cannot accept two speed Europe. If other European countries will go ahead with that process regardless the only answer is Poexit.
Seems to be pretty logical conclusion.
Ironside   
20 Mar 2017
News / Poles call for EU reforms. [67]

However about 54% of Poles are against a two-speed Europe.

The other 22 percent are entitled to their view but really need their heads testing.

You need your head testing. For you Poland's membership in the EU is a dogma. That is not an opinion but belief akin to those of a fanatic. I not against EU, I'm for Poland and for Polish national interest. Sadly EU in the present form is not good for Poland - simple.
Ironside   
20 Mar 2017
News / Poles call for EU reforms. [67]

About 75% of Poles believes that the EU needs to reformed. Only 15% of people in Poland think otherwise. There is also 10% who are clueless.
Well seems to me that people in Poland aren't that supportive for the EU as some people on PF would like us to believe.
Ironside   
17 Mar 2017
News / Poland's PiS party members and crime [346]

but the reason that particular SB snitch has

Why you worry about some small fry just because they are in PiS. PO has been created by big time operatives and there are lots of SB snitches on top appointments left, right and centre, in the pats and at the present.

Never heard you uttering a word about those facts.
How about German gov. founding PO - that is an interning issue in progress. Also nothing from you.
in conclusion it is clear that you don't care if someone has been SB snitch, Hitler or Pol-Pot himself as long as such a person support PO or generality speaking commies, progressives. Why don't you jump off that high horse of moral indignation. You're faking it!
Ironside   
14 Mar 2017
News / Kaczyński debunks opposition lies alleging PiS plans for Polexit [37]

What influence?
I don't understand why that is a hollow threat? After all Poland has her interests and those interests and ambitions not necessary can be realized within the existing framework of the EU.
What is that deeper integration? So far those are just empty slogans to let German dictate the terms to rest of EU.
Ironside   
13 Mar 2017
News / Kaczyński debunks opposition lies alleging PiS plans for Polexit [37]

Well, who listen to those traitors and scum? I'm sure that PiS is not playing Polexit. PiS is too much pro-EU for that to materialise.

They just want Poland not to be treated as a second class member in the EU and rightly so. On the knees are only slaves.

I think that should seriously plan for Polexit if not for the other reason to show to Germany and Brussels that this possibility is on the table and what it pertains. Secondly, it is always good to have as many plans ready as possible.
Ironside   
13 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

So what do you want from me exactly?

To show some sense. You are talking stories. Unless you want to illustrate with something more than some Wiki that such practises are not only common in Cambodia but do have blessing of the authorities, both religious and lay and are embodied in law. Otherwise I'm afraid what you are doing is talking porkies and you what me to take it seriously. Think again.

I have an impression

Your feminine intuition is not good. I don't care who I'm talking to. I'm focusing on consistency and quality of your arguments. I say it now and again but seems to me that no one is taking it seriously, you should. I don't care if you're a man or a woman, black or white, gay or normal.

If your logic and quality of your argument is high I'll respect it and if it not I will tell you that you suck, no need to look for nefarious or ulterior motives. It is that simple.

Chinese society has traditionally valued boys over girls.

So what? The law says (at least until recently) that a couple not in rural are is allowed to have only a one child. What people are doing and all that abuse doesn't make women into second class citizens. BC the state doesn't force people to do what they do.

Furthermore what it has to do with anything - another random example. Why don't you get to the point? Mods are getting antsy.

Right about what, Iron?

Right about you not being very intelligent. Maybe it is a question of experience and with your limited experience you just don't get it.

That if real men

I'm not going to translate for gregy who has his problems and meltdowns. I'm surprised that you're not familiar with that phrase - real men - means acting decisively, boldly, get to the chase, solving problems without too much hassle and redundant chatter and chaos.

Do you think that if men with such Taliban-like mentality would rule in the West

Implementing laws without prejudice - that is what he had in mind most likely. That there is no sacred cows, or protected minorities or other crap that leftie progressives introduced to destroy fundaments of the western civilisation.

He just don't get it that all this is an effect of the evil leftie ideology that is brainwashing people and transforming them in a watery brainless goo. Easy to manipulate.

This animosity (or victimhood) between men and women - fault of the neo-Marxist BS including feminism.
There is no reason for men and women go against each other - quite the contrary there is every reason for both sexes to cooperate and support each other.

Lefties persuade women that they are exploited, are worse off than men and that this all is the fault of some imaginary shadowy patriarchy.
Those women who fall for that are pushing back in the most stupid and counterproductive way - trying to become men in a sense. Introducing laws and regulations that actually are not fair and oppressive to-men

That create resentment and volá the class war between sexes is an expected result of the progressive meddling. Who is the winner - some evil lefties who are after power and who in the normal healthy society would never rise above a gutter where crooked and perverted individuals dwell, together with their unsavoury evil ideas.

Please avoid excessive quoting
Ironside   
11 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

Why not?

I told you why not! Have you failed to understand it?

I'm afraid that trying to have an adult, normal, constructive discussion

I'm too old to listen to such immature nonsense. . Either you say what you aim to illustrate by those examples
or you just prove gregy right. BC you are not doing whatever it is you think you are doing. Those are pointless stories and that Cambodia story out of the blue is just random!

I could also write about other patriarchal, conservative, traditional, religious countries.

Give yourself a break. You premise is idiotic to say the least. Focus on what you know - that is a western civilization and Christianity.

The real hell on Earth and the most Evil gov. on this planet were and are those that embraced leftie ideologies. With all those lofty claims and equality for women and so on.

If you're tying to prove that women have it hard. Of course they have it hard and men have it hard too. Life is tough and then you die. Are you one of those snowflakes or a female chauvinist that somehow believe that women have a worse end of the deal? well think again.
Ironside   
11 Mar 2017
News / Poland's post-election political scene [4080]

Poland the laughing stock of Europe

Progressive Europe - and as we know nobody should listen to those kind of people.
Ironside   
11 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

According to Wikipedia

Sure, rely on wikipeadia. Never the less why are you picking some cultures, different civilizations and talk some stuff that is totally unrelated to the arguments gergy made.

Why you bring some random examples of cruelty, crime or whatnot? what for? What you aim to prove? Nothing at all!

Why, do you have other information

That is country after totalitarian genocidal regime that almost wiped them out, those who are in charge are oppressors and those who where victims are oppressed, Buddhist my ass, those are brutalised people with posttraumatic stress disorder and after the civil war - hardly a good example of anything. Last of all a religious , conservative society.
Ironside   
10 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

Ironside also doesn't live in Poland and I think he has spent a lot of time abroad.

Why would you bring me into your spat with gregy? I have nothing to do with it. I said my part and there is no reason for you to trying to undermine my opinions by talking about personal issues.

By the way I reside in the Warsaw Royal Palace, go there and ask for Mr Ironside if you don't believe me.
Ironside   
9 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

Your argument is that women are a bit thick

His argument is murky at best. I would say that women are not great innovators but they are creative with what they have at hand. I think that is a fair summary.

but you will never have a uterus.

You're making up for this being yourself a one walking, talking and typing uterus.
Since we are at the kindergarten level, tossing classless and immature insults at greg.

as intelligentas men.no.sorry

Maybe you should define your understanding of what ' intelligence' actually is.
Ironside   
9 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

if that the case,still.one could argue that the men "kind of inteligence" is more "profitable" in certain social conditions such as free market

Sure but one could easily counter that by pointing out that in a primitive free market of the tribal stone age Einstein's 'kind of intelligence' and ability would be absolutely useless. That is unless he would develop a new hunting technics his 'intelligence' would be more of hindrance to hand not at all 'profitable'.

I think you yourself have a difficulty in discerning between general and specific, between median, average or typical and extreme, unusual or atypical.
Beside that talking about pay and intelligence transferable into profit you're taking on a very specific issue of IT business with broad assumptions. Either broad your examples or shorten your assumptions.

Otherwise it makes no sense.

nobody will pay you fortune for being "emotionally inteligent" or whatever thay call it

There is supply and demand. If we are talking free market. There is only few men that can match your description in the IT business and hence their 'better pay'. The divide is not between male and female but between nerds who are into IT studies and all the rest of the mankind. they are not getting paid for their specific intelligence but for fulfilling markets demands. In the same way a female model is getting paid even more than an average IT dude without all that 'intelligence'. Who is to say what is better? For each its own. Both predispositions, abilities and assents are to some extend just wining tickets in the DNA lottery.

Politicians have been talking about it and setting aside money for female participation in STEM.

You're right. Why people are being bothered by the differences between sexes is beyond me. That is just a silly divisive language of the neo-Marxist ideologist. Thing is nobody can stop a girl from becoming an engineer if she wants to, is able to, and is determined to do it, there is no law or custom that would stop her from fulfilling that dream.

Talking about all those invisible barriers and such is just basically BS and some HS too.
Ironside   
9 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

how would you enforce equal pay and equal presents of female ,in software programming where female dont exist?huh.any ideas?

In the same way you would enforce equal pay for men in the modelling business - not at all. Top female models earn ten time as much as top male models. Figure this one out.

By the way what are you arguing about?
Ironside   
9 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

not saying IQ its a definitive factor

I think you should first think over what are you arguing about. Korvin talks about abstraction his mental construct, build to illustrate his theory and at the same time to gain him a free publicity and acolytes.

You on the other hand seemingly picked up a wrong end of the stick. Let be precise here.
On average in the western societies there is no pay gap between sexes.
Whereas IQ is an important factor in getting a good income is yet quite another issue.

That theory about women being less intelligent than men on average is not really supported by scientist. There is rather a natural inclination for a different kind of intelligence. Some of which is more pronounced in womenfolk and some more pronounced in menfolk. .
Ironside   
8 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

and why this is BS?if higher iq gives you ability to create and invent,why not better paid?

Ability is not the same as sureness, its all depends on individual circumstances. Are you telling me that all people you dealt with in your business arrangements whose income was higher had been also blessed with a higher IQ than yours?

What about Indie, commie China? Your income would depend more on your position on a social rung or on the position of a family you were born to.

You're building sand castles here.

and thats justify pay gap

There is no pay gap. Not on a general/average basis not in Europe or America.
Ironside   
8 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

there is a massive gap

What are about? It depends how you define intelligence. There is no gap on average, simply women are more in the middle no many idiots but also few geniuses. Whereas men are generally more extreme plenty of idiots and lots of very intelligent, that is the reason for men's creativity. Some say that abstractive logical thinking comes easer to men.

Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people. lol!

Korwin gives even an example

Korvin is talking about Darwinism and it is his way to propagate a 'pure' capitalism. He said that women are being paid less because that is the way of the world. People are being paid more or less depends on their physical characteristic and their IQ. That clearly is BS.

That kind of talking to gain free publicity and dazzle less minds with his cleverness.
Thing is women are not being paid less than men that is leftist HS.
In the same way as lefties peddle that nonsense that women are discourage from studying STEM subjects.
Ironside   
8 Mar 2017
News / Polish MEP Korwin-Mikke's latest outrage, insulting women [216]

more than a few people who watch it to think that his views are normal here and that he has widespread support, which of course he doesn't

He is into that double talk to gain free publicity. What I mean he shouldn't speak in English, he sounds terrible, he know French or somesuch better me thinks.
Ironside   
6 Mar 2017
History / Why Poland achieved nothing at all? [69]

actually agree with OP

You don't agree with the OP. He claimed that Poland achieved nothing at all. He never said anything about 50 years or whatnot.
By the way if you have been in hibernation - has a soviet occupation right a bell?

And most of them are artists.

Correction - you heard only about artists.
Ironside   
4 Mar 2017
History / Why Poland achieved nothing at all? [69]

ompared

Geez you contributed absolutely nothing to the world and never will, you're naturally born looser. Is that why you asking?