Ironside
9 Feb 2018
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Plausible.
Good as any.
Thoughts?
Plausible.
Good as any.
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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What evidence?
I know there was some Soviet NKVD types telling this to Jews that wanted to enlist to Polish Army while they were trying to put barrier for them ( in Soviet Russia at the time)..
Even Anders had an ambivalent attitude and there is definite documentary evidence that he in fact put a ceiling on the recruitment of Jews for political reasons.
What evidence?
I know there was some Soviet NKVD types telling this to Jews that wanted to enlist to Polish Army while they were trying to put barrier for them ( in Soviet Russia at the time)..
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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For number of reasons:
- no Polish state.
- sectarian upbringing
Because there was so much fewer of them.
Right, the Problem is that a part of Poland had been 19the century Germany.
Anyway it has much to do with industrialization and a fact that Jews were less numerous. In 19th century Warsaw you could find Jews from all social strata, from criminals, bum, pimps, ******, to workers, doctors, lawyers, bankers and industrialists . Thing is there were like few cities with opportunities, most were living in small villages, townies and such.
So why do you think that was?
For number of reasons:
- no Polish state.
- sectarian upbringing
that Jews in Western Europe were so different to Polish Jews?
Because there was so much fewer of them.
were emancipated and enjoyed almost full equal rights
Right, the Problem is that a part of Poland had been 19the century Germany.
Anyway it has much to do with industrialization and a fact that Jews were less numerous. In 19th century Warsaw you could find Jews from all social strata, from criminals, bum, pimps, ******, to workers, doctors, lawyers, bankers and industrialists . Thing is there were like few cities with opportunities, most were living in small villages, townies and such.
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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That should give yo u a clue - yes.
the IIRP
Are you talking about pre-war??
That should give yo u a clue - yes.
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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You can feel what you like but that is not reason to beautify an perfume the past in order to straighten some real or perceived slights.
Generally speaking Jews (meaning as in the majority of the Polish Jews) never had been particularly patriotic or overtly supportive of he Polish state.
We can show some examples of this or that that would seems to contradict the truth of the matter but only on the surface. Those were just actions of small minority or people who I would call Poles of Jewish origin, that is quite not the same as 'Polish' Jews.
Also in the IIRP there were about million or so Jews from Russia that had not clue about Poland and were foreigners in Poland for some reason they were offered a refuge from the Russian revolution.
Begin was an underofficer of the Polish Army his honor and his duty was to see the war to the end. Then and only then he could seek his fortune in Palestine.
So there is nothing honourable in his discharge, while unspoken assumption was that if not discharged he would go AWOL.
If anything that shows magnanimity and generosity of the sprit of the Polish general than anything else.
As for people like DD who are questioning this or that. I think that he is just beating abound the bush looking for some clues to what in fact is a very simple issue. Jews in general weren't supportive towards Poland or the Polish state and their attitude was purely mercantile.
It is not a judgment it is a simple statement of a fact.
You can feel what you like but that is not reason to beautify an perfume the past in order to straighten some real or perceived slights.
Generally speaking Jews (meaning as in the majority of the Polish Jews) never had been particularly patriotic or overtly supportive of he Polish state.
We can show some examples of this or that that would seems to contradict the truth of the matter but only on the surface. Those were just actions of small minority or people who I would call Poles of Jewish origin, that is quite not the same as 'Polish' Jews.
Also in the IIRP there were about million or so Jews from Russia that had not clue about Poland and were foreigners in Poland for some reason they were offered a refuge from the Russian revolution.
Begin was an underofficer of the Polish Army his honor and his duty was to see the war to the end. Then and only then he could seek his fortune in Palestine.
So there is nothing honourable in his discharge, while unspoken assumption was that if not discharged he would go AWOL.
If anything that shows magnanimity and generosity of the sprit of the Polish general than anything else.
As for people like DD who are questioning this or that. I think that he is just beating abound the bush looking for some clues to what in fact is a very simple issue. Jews in general weren't supportive towards Poland or the Polish state and their attitude was purely mercantile.
It is not a judgment it is a simple statement of a fact.
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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I know my history thank you and I know how to understand it. Your understanding of this particular historical fact is flawed.
I know my history thank you and I know how to understand it. Your understanding of this particular historical fact is flawed.
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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Blah blah, a polish citizen, didn't want to fight for his country. Tell us more about Jews and how great they are. There wasn't anything honourable about it.
and was granted an honourable discharge.
Blah blah, a polish citizen, didn't want to fight for his country. Tell us more about Jews and how great they are. There wasn't anything honourable about it.
Ironside
8 Feb 2018
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Well, it is evidence Doug. Tell that to the police investigators digging up dead bodies or its remains. A proper investigation can or exmaple give a serious clue not only to the identity and number of killed but also can give a serious pointer as to who was a culprit.
You came across as having serous deficiency in brains department Dougie, I mean - really?
Wasn't sectioned. Those were real desertions. They simply wasn't persecuted as the high command of the Polish Army decided they are not gonna chase them as they are Army of volunteers.
So, yes I can call him deserter.
keen on digging up the dead to prove some self-serving theory.
Well, it is evidence Doug. Tell that to the police investigators digging up dead bodies or its remains. A proper investigation can or exmaple give a serious clue not only to the identity and number of killed but also can give a serious pointer as to who was a culprit.
You came across as having serous deficiency in brains department Dougie, I mean - really?
Many of those 'desertions' were sanctioned and assisted by Polish officers.
Wasn't sectioned. Those were real desertions. They simply wasn't persecuted as the high command of the Polish Army decided they are not gonna chase them as they are Army of volunteers.
So, yes I can call him deserter.
Ironside
7 Feb 2018
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Not really as far as I know. Also she was until recently sucking out recourse FROM Poland, in the form of governmental grants i.e. Polish taxpayer financed her anti-Polish movies.
PiS cut out that flow of money. No wonder she doesn't like Polish gov now.
Yet she lives in Poland and makes her business there, putting all of her resources into Poland.
Not really as far as I know. Also she was until recently sucking out recourse FROM Poland, in the form of governmental grants i.e. Polish taxpayer financed her anti-Polish movies.
PiS cut out that flow of money. No wonder she doesn't like Polish gov now.
Ironside
7 Feb 2018
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so what? - it doesn't reflect the Jewish population as a whole - unless we take Jewish/Israeli point of view and use it this case, then yes, Jews are responsible for exterminating/murdering Polish heroes and elites after 1944, hand in hand with the Red Army. We should ask for apology and compensation from Israel.
Half of UB leadership was jewish in the years after ww2.
so what? - it doesn't reflect the Jewish population as a whole - unless we take Jewish/Israeli point of view and use it this case, then yes, Jews are responsible for exterminating/murdering Polish heroes and elites after 1944, hand in hand with the Red Army. We should ask for apology and compensation from Israel.
Ironside
7 Feb 2018
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Well, some other time I would object to your unfair generalization but after Israel and some Jews all over the place started this unprecedented attack on Poland using exactly the same unfair generalization. I just can't be bother to object.
I might add on the same note:
I'm sure there some decent, great, friendly Jews today and in the past but there is so very few of them.
No wonder that anywhere they go there is anti-Semitism. Coincidence?
Hmm.... leading Polish nationalists with Dmowski on the top of the list disagree with your idea. What you have written is what the German Nazis and now Israeli think about their nations.
I told you what make her not Polish. Even America can afford to tolerate people like her (born and bread American citizens that despise American values and history) only to the point. Poland cannot.
Once they were able to get into leadership positions like in the UB they immediately set out to killing AK members and other Poles.
Well, some other time I would object to your unfair generalization but after Israel and some Jews all over the place started this unprecedented attack on Poland using exactly the same unfair generalization. I just can't be bother to object.
I might add on the same note:
I'm sure there some decent, great, friendly Jews today and in the past but there is so very few of them.
No wonder that anywhere they go there is anti-Semitism. Coincidence?
You can be a Polish citizen and be brown, black, yellow or whatever, but like a Jew, that black/brown/red person can never be a Pole in terms of nationality, blood, etc.
Hmm.... leading Polish nationalists with Dmowski on the top of the list disagree with your idea. What you have written is what the German Nazis and now Israeli think about their nations.
he's a Polish citizen born and bred, just because she's not just like you doesn't make her any less Polish.
I told you what make her not Polish. Even America can afford to tolerate people like her (born and bread American citizens that despise American values and history) only to the point. Poland cannot.
Ironside
6 Feb 2018
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She was born in Poland occupied by Soviets. Her Father was a commie Jews and a traitor to Poland. Her standing has been consequently anti-Polish or at the very least ambivalent.
Well she was born in Poland
She was born in Poland occupied by Soviets. Her Father was a commie Jews and a traitor to Poland. Her standing has been consequently anti-Polish or at the very least ambivalent.
Ironside
6 Feb 2018
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Listen smartass, I know what I'm talking about, you don't!
So says the ultimate arbiter of PolskoĊci?
Listen smartass, I know what I'm talking about, you don't!
Ironside
6 Feb 2018
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Agnieska Holland is Soviet and Jewish not Polish. Others Poles are most likely some soviet scum. I won't even deign to check that link.
Agnieska Holland is Soviet and Jewish not Polish. Others Poles are most likely some soviet scum. I won't even deign to check that link.
Ironside
5 Feb 2018
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It is too funny, it gave me laugh.
Could you all stick to the topic, please. Which is to remind you outrageous claims made by Israeli officials blaming Poland and Polish nation for the Holocaust.. I think we are witnessing the end of a golden wave Jews were surfing for the last 30- 40 years.
No-one is gonna give a rat ass about their rants, anymore.
the non-binary Jewish kindergarten commissar from Scotland
It is too funny, it gave me laugh.
are to comment on the Kielce massacre
Could you all stick to the topic, please. Which is to remind you outrageous claims made by Israeli officials blaming Poland and Polish nation for the Holocaust.. I think we are witnessing the end of a golden wave Jews were surfing for the last 30- 40 years.
No-one is gonna give a rat ass about their rants, anymore.
Ironside
4 Feb 2018
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Read my typing - no it is not.
Well, the difference is that Israel (for example) is not trying to make it illegal for people to discuss the question. Poland is.
Read my typing - no it is not.
Ironside
4 Feb 2018
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Hmm, technically it was a German soil at the time.
He was since rebuffed many times as merely a fantasy writer not a researcher with any sencietific credence.
So the sole fact that the camp was in Poland,
Hmm, technically it was a German soil at the time.
Jan Gross did!
He was since rebuffed many times as merely a fantasy writer not a researcher with any sencietific credence.
Ironside
4 Feb 2018
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Yeah, estimate, a guess by someone who suppose to study a specific field of a subject. I see few problems here, integrity and a good will of those people and general difficulty of estimating who exactly is responsible for selling out Jews. That is task impossible to preform with any degree of accuracy.
Any numbers are kind of suspect.
Given that people are kind is simple, I would hate to give any number here a sentiment that any researcher worthy his salt should share. After all those responsible for their deaths are known, or should be known.
That strange focus/obsession on negatives is not healthy for anyone. How many people are dead due to Jews? Is that anti-Semitic? How come the same question about Poles is not considered anti-Polish?
No, it is not. It is illegal to say that the Polish nation is responsible for the Holocaust or is/were any way complicit.
Define plenty. In my opinions, estimate there're very few people that are aware of it. That lack of knowledge is not helped by the fact that Jews or Israelis seldom talk about them. They rather focus on others.
No, it means an estimate, not a guess.
Yeah, estimate, a guess by someone who suppose to study a specific field of a subject. I see few problems here, integrity and a good will of those people and general difficulty of estimating who exactly is responsible for selling out Jews. That is task impossible to preform with any degree of accuracy.
Any numbers are kind of suspect.
Given that people are kind is simple, I would hate to give any number here a sentiment that any researcher worthy his salt should share. After all those responsible for their deaths are known, or should be known.
That strange focus/obsession on negatives is not healthy for anyone. How many people are dead due to Jews? Is that anti-Semitic? How come the same question about Poles is not considered anti-Polish?
That's now illegal to say in Poland.
No, it is not. It is illegal to say that the Polish nation is responsible for the Holocaust or is/were any way complicit.
Well plenty
Define plenty. In my opinions, estimate there're very few people that are aware of it. That lack of knowledge is not helped by the fact that Jews or Israelis seldom talk about them. They rather focus on others.
Ironside
4 Feb 2018
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All of them? If someone would say that about the Jews you would jump out of your skin shouting anti-Semitism. Take a look in the mirror buddy are not you not turning into something you allegedly hate?
Bibi can suck on it.
I hope Poland will stop supporting Israel, your good friend Putin surly will help you. lol! Russia already send there plenty of 'ambassadors'. They are supposedly Jewish lol!
The Poles destroyed
All of them? If someone would say that about the Jews you would jump out of your skin shouting anti-Semitism. Take a look in the mirror buddy are not you not turning into something you allegedly hate?
Bibi
Bibi can suck on it.
I hope Poland will stop supporting Israel, your good friend Putin surly will help you. lol! Russia already send there plenty of 'ambassadors'. They are supposedly Jewish lol!
Ironside
4 Feb 2018
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Key word here an estimation. Meaning that is a guess. It could be well 200. Anyway WTF are you saying there is no recognition of it in Poland? I guess you are fluent in Polish and know all there is about historical education in Poland. If not - why the hell you are talking out of your anus ?
Israeli want somthing else, they want to blame actions of some individuals that were shunned and punished by the majority of Poles on the whole nation.
In that case Israeli should take on respisblity for those individual Jews (or bands) that made a lot of harm to Poles and other nations, what good for a goose ....
What they really want it?
lol! Assuming that it is a fact. By the same logic Jews anti-Semitics is perfectly justifiable due to their tendency to hate and bigotry. Adolf are you sure you're trolling the right forum?
No shyte Sherlock. Most Jews in pre-war Poland were poor and illiterate, at least before a younger generation of Jews got their education after 1918.
As to why many Poles were helping Jews - because they were Christians. I mean you may like your friend or a neighbor but of for helping him you would put yourself and your whole family in the front of the f 'like' doesn't cut it, it takes it all to quite another dimension.
It is easy to talk BS and moralize in the safety of your house today.
I think Israelis F themselves over with this attack on Poland. They gonna lose big time in the long run. Just take a seat.
Here is an interesting account estimating 200.000 jews
Key word here an estimation. Meaning that is a guess. It could be well 200. Anyway WTF are you saying there is no recognition of it in Poland? I guess you are fluent in Polish and know all there is about historical education in Poland. If not - why the hell you are talking out of your anus ?
Israeli want somthing else, they want to blame actions of some individuals that were shunned and punished by the majority of Poles on the whole nation.
In that case Israeli should take on respisblity for those individual Jews (or bands) that made a lot of harm to Poles and other nations, what good for a goose ....
What they really want it?
Poles have become one of the most despised immigrant groups in the UK
lol! Assuming that it is a fact. By the same logic Jews anti-Semitics is perfectly justifiable due to their tendency to hate and bigotry. Adolf are you sure you're trolling the right forum?
Not all Jews fit the stereotype of being rich, stingy, usurous
No shyte Sherlock. Most Jews in pre-war Poland were poor and illiterate, at least before a younger generation of Jews got their education after 1918.
As to why many Poles were helping Jews - because they were Christians. I mean you may like your friend or a neighbor but of for helping him you would put yourself and your whole family in the front of the f 'like' doesn't cut it, it takes it all to quite another dimension.
It is easy to talk BS and moralize in the safety of your house today.
I think Israelis F themselves over with this attack on Poland. They gonna lose big time in the long run. Just take a seat.
Ironside
4 Feb 2018
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Yeah that short spell between late 60' and early 90'. Before they were quite proud of they heroes and some of the most notorious butchers were a respectable members of the society, mayors, head of this or that, you name it.
In meantime they threw a lot of money on the problem - Jews and Israel. So now they are kind of best buddies.
In meantime no compensation were paid to Poland for material loses, not to mention slave work, contributions and loot were 1000's of art, gold and stuff went missing.
Germans and Jews agree in one issue, there two kind of victims in WWII, so innocent and saintly Jews and you know ..the Holocaust ohhhh....and Poles who to be honest (according to THEM people) had I coming and who cares about some filthy anti-Semitic peasants.
That is a traitor that would side with Germans during WWII like his grandpa. Lest not talk about this scum.
Can they name them? Those who give up Jews? At least most of them I hope can be named. Otherwise it sound like a another Jewish myth - all are against us. (there were few scum like in any populace - so what? nation has nothing to do with it)
Anyways, Jews have their scum, murderess and collaborators too. I understand they are to be excused as they were JEWs and there is no place in this cartoonish narrative for Jews that weren't either saintly or that weren't a saintly victims.
In 1939 - 1941 in Soviet occupied Poland situation of those two societies had been reversed. I tell you that Jews weren't behaving one bit better towards their Polish neighbours, somehow no one is asking Jewish nation to take responsibility for their scum and to pay compensations.
I think it should change.
The times when the Germans could be shamed into some self-flagellation are almost over.
Yeah that short spell between late 60' and early 90'. Before they were quite proud of they heroes and some of the most notorious butchers were a respectable members of the society, mayors, head of this or that, you name it.
In meantime they threw a lot of money on the problem - Jews and Israel. So now they are kind of best buddies.
In meantime no compensation were paid to Poland for material loses, not to mention slave work, contributions and loot were 1000's of art, gold and stuff went missing.
Germans and Jews agree in one issue, there two kind of victims in WWII, so innocent and saintly Jews and you know ..the Holocaust ohhhh....and Poles who to be honest (according to THEM people) had I coming and who cares about some filthy anti-Semitic peasants.
look even Donald Tusk
That is a traitor that would side with Germans during WWII like his grandpa. Lest not talk about this scum.
although thousands of Poles saved Jews, 1000s also gave them up for rewards.
Can they name them? Those who give up Jews? At least most of them I hope can be named. Otherwise it sound like a another Jewish myth - all are against us. (there were few scum like in any populace - so what? nation has nothing to do with it)
Anyways, Jews have their scum, murderess and collaborators too. I understand they are to be excused as they were JEWs and there is no place in this cartoonish narrative for Jews that weren't either saintly or that weren't a saintly victims.
In 1939 - 1941 in Soviet occupied Poland situation of those two societies had been reversed. I tell you that Jews weren't behaving one bit better towards their Polish neighbours, somehow no one is asking Jewish nation to take responsibility for their scum and to pay compensations.
I think it should change.
Ironside
3 Feb 2018
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That is the risk Poland must take. IF USA will just go over some obscure internal legislation some crazy ass country like Israel objected to. I say Good Bye.
USA business and support is need for Poland to become and an independent strong and self-reliant entity. Caving in to some crazy ass demands of some xenophobic fascist people who hate all others for not reason at all from a far away land just to appease some greedy circles in the USA that love shekels goes contrary to all the purpose of having a close ties to America.
Poland could has stayed a nice little lap dog to Germany if that a case without having to go all that rigmarole just to become a pawn and a lap dog to a different power.
The way out of t his stalemate would be give in to the Jewish criminal racket (obviously supported by some Israeli authorities if not all) and pay 60 billion American dollars. I'm against that for a number of reason, mainly due to a golden rule - you don't give in to extortionists because they'll come back for more.
I would rather use it to strengthen Poland's position by building a worldwide Polish TV in English and by acquiring nuclear weapons in a short order.
To show them there are consequences and it will cost them as well. As for you, you can have all the deal you want, you can even s. their d, for free if that is your want.
I'm talking about the state policy. No more open doors for their business of firms, no arm deals and not joint military actions. No political of financial support for anything Israeli or Jewish.
Well, fine. The USA will just go
That is the risk Poland must take. IF USA will just go over some obscure internal legislation some crazy ass country like Israel objected to. I say Good Bye.
USA business and support is need for Poland to become and an independent strong and self-reliant entity. Caving in to some crazy ass demands of some xenophobic fascist people who hate all others for not reason at all from a far away land just to appease some greedy circles in the USA that love shekels goes contrary to all the purpose of having a close ties to America.
Poland could has stayed a nice little lap dog to Germany if that a case without having to go all that rigmarole just to become a pawn and a lap dog to a different power.
The way out of t his stalemate would be give in to the Jewish criminal racket (obviously supported by some Israeli authorities if not all) and pay 60 billion American dollars. I'm against that for a number of reason, mainly due to a golden rule - you don't give in to extortionists because they'll come back for more.
I would rather use it to strengthen Poland's position by building a worldwide Polish TV in English and by acquiring nuclear weapons in a short order.
Why ?
To show them there are consequences and it will cost them as well. As for you, you can have all the deal you want, you can even s. their d, for free if that is your want.
I'm talking about the state policy. No more open doors for their business of firms, no arm deals and not joint military actions. No political of financial support for anything Israeli or Jewish.
Ironside
3 Feb 2018
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No, it doesn't. Israel showed its true colors and can go F itself.
USA regardless of their ties with Israel would have to make choices of their own. If they decide to abandon Europe and voluntarily give up their advantage and business opportunities in this part of the European continent just because of some internal legislation of Poland. Well, Goodbye!
Poland has no choice and must remain firmly on course and give in one ounce.
The way Israeli orchestrated that unprecedented attack pretty much closed out any other options that might have existed before.
The next stop should be withdraw of any financial support on Jewish stuff in Poland. In support of Israeli interest worldwide and to withdraw from any business, cultural or political deals with Israel, Israeli citizen and business.
The very good move would be to close up Polish embassy in Israel.
AH and IF they want to send their kids to Poland for tours of WWII camps, there should be obligatory three day course on REAL historical facts prepared by Polish specialists.
No, it doesn't. Israel showed its true colors and can go F itself.
USA regardless of their ties with Israel would have to make choices of their own. If they decide to abandon Europe and voluntarily give up their advantage and business opportunities in this part of the European continent just because of some internal legislation of Poland. Well, Goodbye!
Poland has no choice and must remain firmly on course and give in one ounce.
The way Israeli orchestrated that unprecedented attack pretty much closed out any other options that might have existed before.
The next stop should be withdraw of any financial support on Jewish stuff in Poland. In support of Israeli interest worldwide and to withdraw from any business, cultural or political deals with Israel, Israeli citizen and business.
The very good move would be to close up Polish embassy in Israel.
AH and IF they want to send their kids to Poland for tours of WWII camps, there should be obligatory three day course on REAL historical facts prepared by Polish specialists.
Ironside
3 Feb 2018
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Poland has allies. NATO - Does it rings any bells. Unless NATO will kick Poland out due to some sh...storm by some not NATO country. Until that time al that talk about isolation and blah blah is just scream ringing and putting pressure on Poland and Poles.
Here is a milled finger as a response!
Poland needs allies
Poland has allies. NATO - Does it rings any bells. Unless NATO will kick Poland out due to some sh...storm by some not NATO country. Until that time al that talk about isolation and blah blah is just scream ringing and putting pressure on Poland and Poles.
Here is a milled finger as a response!
Ironside
3 Feb 2018
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Geez, you are as deep as a shallow puddle and so is your 'knowledge'.
Another golden slogan that doesn't convey any info. Keep going and you will soon become my favorite poster.
Hmm posturing. Since when telling the truth about your own historical past is posturing?
It was incidental that a person in a camp was Polish,
Geez, you are as deep as a shallow puddle and so is your 'knowledge'.
Well, like I said, Israel was founded by Holocaust survivors.
Another golden slogan that doesn't convey any info. Keep going and you will soon become my favorite poster.
domestic posturing
Hmm posturing. Since when telling the truth about your own historical past is posturing?
Ironside
2 Feb 2018
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Well, lets call it bluff and see if USA mean it. If they do, Poland should already put it hand on some nuke or a few.
its' allies like this.
Well, lets call it bluff and see if USA mean it. If they do, Poland should already put it hand on some nuke or a few.
Ironside
2 Feb 2018
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Very well, if you publish some lies about Poland during WWII. You can forget to take your holiday in Poland. Even to change your place in Poland could be a problem.
@all
By the way. Poland doesn't need an embassy in Israel. Neither Israeli ambassador is needed in Poland. Kick her out for a good measure. Ah all those business deal with Israel, kiss is good bye.
See if Israeli lobby in USA is strong enough to pull a quickie on Poland. maybe some 'red-necks' and Trump should show them that America won't do any dirty job for Israel for some shekels. Those who are so keen to take them Jewish money are surely not acting in American best interest.
-@delph
Johnny Daniels it surely sound like a bad Joke from those James Bond novels.
Very well, if you publish some lies about Poland during WWII. You can forget to take your holiday in Poland. Even to change your place in Poland could be a problem.
@all
By the way. Poland doesn't need an embassy in Israel. Neither Israeli ambassador is needed in Poland. Kick her out for a good measure. Ah all those business deal with Israel, kiss is good bye.
See if Israeli lobby in USA is strong enough to pull a quickie on Poland. maybe some 'red-necks' and Trump should show them that America won't do any dirty job for Israel for some shekels. Those who are so keen to take them Jewish money are surely not acting in American best interest.
-@delph
Johnny Daniels it surely sound like a bad Joke from those James Bond novels.
Ironside
1 Feb 2018
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No, that is very accurate. Those two countries are movers and shakers of the EU. Small insignificant countries and those indebted to their eyeballs just follow them to curry a favor with them.
Just give it up. Putin and Russian is not an option for Poland.
Well that's not accurate
No, that is very accurate. Those two countries are movers and shakers of the EU. Small insignificant countries and those indebted to their eyeballs just follow them to curry a favor with them.
Kremlin
Just give it up. Putin and Russian is not an option for Poland.
Ironside
1 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]
Nah only German and France they can take a long walk on a short pier.
Nah only German and France they can take a long walk on a short pier.
Ironside
1 Feb 2018
News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]
Where is the line between nation and criminals?
Anyway Poland should stop supporting Israel and make any business with them.
here's the line between individuals and the narod?
Where is the line between nation and criminals?
Anyway Poland should stop supporting Israel and make any business with them.