News / Political life of Poland [135]


Such a partisanship is not unique to Poland. Nevertheless some issues are objectively good or bad for the interest of Poland. It doesn't matter who support what. Go by the issues not by the loud people.


It is a very judgmental dogmatic statement and not helpful at all. There is not a one wholesome solution to all the problems. An answer to problems doesn't lie in a one dimensions but more oft than not it is a much more complex issue. In short, looking for an answer or as it might be for a panacea for all the ills to be solved by applying the right formulae is a grave error. As any ideologically constructed recipe its not a science but its opposite a magical thinking. In such order of thing such ideology is no different that communism or other -isms. Not workable and not without major flaws.

There some positive or outright good things being done. PiS is such a party with a program that gets its support of the large sway of the populace of Poland. That is a fact that no amount of mopping gonna change.


Exactly. That is called a reality check. You can refuse all you want, politically you're a joke. Hence no one cares what you think. Maybe it a time to stand outside of your shell and face reality. To properly react to it rather than reject it allthoghter in the name of some idealistic dogma?

By the way don't talk for me about what I think and what I stand for. You don't know me or my views.

@Lzyko
"The NYT is only attacked for her "left-wing" bias"

The NYR times is not attacked. It aces backlash after publish lie after lie, manipulation after manipulation and prejudiced nonsense about Poland times 100s.

'A point of view' can only take you so far.

News / Political life of Poland [135]


But your personal experiences is hardly a test case. You can generalize your personal experience of course but there is always a danger of making a major error in assessment. It could be a regional thing. In my experience roads in Poland improved and keep improving and that is backed up by the stats.

News / Political life of Poland [135]


Well, except for few autobahns in east Germany that improved most of the infrastructure there is not that much better IF you consider amount of money Germany keep pumping there.

News / Political life of Poland [135]


Why don't you google it?

News / Political life of Poland [135]


Hmm ... nah, actually is not correct - again.


That is not entirely true. Germany benefited more than Poland. I suppose you could put it down to Germany handling better their affairs than Poland IF NOT for one very important detail - the EU law about temporary foreign workers that curtails freedom of the common market and actually is against the EU law (or was).

Those law France and Germany want to extant in a way they will include lorry drivers. In a layman terms means that want to use legation to undercut their competition.

I wonder if that law include German or French workers in Poland - they wages should be lowered to Poland's standard or they should hire locally. Sadly PiS gov didn't go there, a fail, again!


NM - National Movement wants Poland to quite the EU. Other parties are pretty much into staying and offer no real solution and their negotiation skills left much to be desired.

@lesseronimus:
"Mentally fanatical supporters of both mayor parties are on the same level. If you disagree with them you are either traitor or a freak."

That is what you claim. Do you have any evidence to support your claim? I understand is easer to write off someone as a 'fanatical supporter" rather then seriously consider what those people are saying and where lie the truth.

I'm not even a supporter (let alone fanatical) of PiS or PO. I'm only stating the obvious - there is problem that affect citizens and democracy in Poland. PiS at the very least try to fix it. Those who are against it, are insidious and have no valid argument or a counter- proposition, all they do are using their external contacts to use foreign powers to pressure Polish gov out of the office and to stop all changes regardless of the fact if they are they beneficial to the populace of Poland or not.

That is a standard definition of a traitor and a soviet i.e. person who feels no attachment to his country of origin.

"This is you the one who mention Korwin".

However you're the one who hold his musings dear. You're not the first one of the long line people who were under the influence of the dude or one or other of this cheerleader groups called a party. I recognize symptoms of illogical bias.

"They have no authority to make such distinctions."

It is not about authority. It is about a fact. This forum is but a little and imperfect widow for those who do not speak Polish into Poland. So, oft I write for their benefit. I see no point in debating a Polish person on the English language forum.


The NYT lost his credibility long ago. As for its publications about Poland they're the next level of nonsense. They are the very embodied of the term - prejudiced hatful pricks.

So it hilarious and came as a no surprise that you quote them as your source. Think for yourself if you can lol. Unfortunately there is no google address that can fix it.

News / Israel opposing potential new Polish law to criminalise term 'Polish death camps' [1539]

Why do we even talk about it? No business should be conducted with them. Good they stay out of Poland. Shouldn't have anything to do with them.

News / Political life of Poland [135]


Ah, another cluster of supporters mesmerized by a one pony trick Korvin - an eccentric extraordinaire.


F them! That stupid soviet rabble has no call to be called Poles.


What bubble? You are being silly with your dogma and your guru Korwin, that what it is.


I don't move them anywhere that where they are - in the non leftie world. Conservative and right wing PiS is called by the foreign press.

News / Political life of Poland [135]

@Mr Grunwald
PSL - ex-commie establishment base. Based mostly in regional bureaucracy.

PO - all kind of opportunists, generally they like to be in charge and live off corruption, scratch it and you will find mafia connections, no political standing, sucking up to neo- Marxist EU, because they don't care about corruption, bad governance as long as they can exploit Poland, and impose neo-Marxist, progressive ideology.

Kukiz15 - people who didn't want to vote PO or PiS voted on them. Generally every person hold different views.

PiS a centrist party, called conservative and patriotic because a large chunk of Poland's society who vote them hold those views and some progressive LGTB crap do not wash with them. In other words it took 40 years to brainwash 'western' societies into meekly accepting lot of its nonsense.

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Partia Wolnosc - some BS I never heard about.

Antifa - great grandpa was installed in Poland by the Soviets, grandpa was a big shot in soviet Poland collaborating with occupiers, daddy make into banking (due to his connection with ex-commies) his son became an Antifa member and play at being 'something' - few and between of those.

ONR - people in they early 20' anti-establishment movement that took on an identity of the movement that belong in the late 30' of the 20 century. they are not fascist and they are not commies.

News / Political life of Poland [135]


Why so touchy? I don't know you, I don't care about your 'personam' YOUR LIST is skewed because everything to you is socialist. As compared to what - an ideal that doesn't exist in the real world?

Hence it is a legitimate question - are you some kind of cultist? Better still - are you an ideologue?


Why Trump is bombing Syria? For the same reason - a strong internal pressure of influential groups of interest.


It is not a purge, if only is a very small change, an attempt at reform that is badly needed. You as per usual have no idea what you're talking about.

News / Political life of Poland [135]


Not correct. Seems that Ukrainians are not that far behind them in some diseases.
Plus, PiS gov. opened doors for immigrants from Asia, and that include Muslims.

What up Grudni? IS that a research? YOU tell us what is your opinions about those political entities you mentioned.


You're some of a cultists? Strangely skewed your list.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]


1.I do. Someone who is ingenuine and that describe you to the T.
2. I don't care about your opinions or your posts. Unless you post something that is just incredibly stupid and idiotic and as far from the truth as your claim that you have a six-pack.

3. I think you don't care about your opinions either. You just make them up as you go along. Longer you post here you are getting sloppier and its shows.


Give the rate of births in Russia one day Russia will be overrun by the Muslims.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]


Hmm... do they now? Sad..... I don't think they like Germany as such.


He is a troll, if Russian or other is in fact immaterial. Let him prattle away.

History / Whom do the people in Poland hate more: Germans or Russians? [871]


They shouldn't be afraid of Russia or anyone else. Political and economical interests and a geopolitical space dictate certain limitations on what possible and feasible.


Germany in general acknowledged past wrongs. Russia is in a full denial mode, even more they are on offensive. Also I doubt it about negative or positive emotions, it more about media bias. In the USA and generally in the west media changed a tune about two .. maybe years ago and Russia became a boogeyman again for the first time since the cold war.

They worked har4d for it. Putin's games and policies backfired.

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]


dude, I have answered your question. What the hell is wrong with you? You got your answer.
Now, you are telling me you don't care about the answer. Go F Y MF!

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]

@Rich Mazur - What was the point in fighting tanks on horses?- Hmm horses were towering over the tanks at the time. Plus it was easier to catch such a tank, chasing German talks on foots was a bit more tricky.

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]


Hmm what kind of liberal are you? You're much for a marriage for gays, a free abortion for all, a something that would account for the oddities of individuals with a total disregard what it does to the wider community as whole.

Where it is clear that the best place to rise children is a working properly family unit that consist of a man and a woman; abortion not only are detrimental to women's physical and mental health . Also if we are talking about survival of the winder community - not having enough children is a danger as well.

Maybe you should rethink your position.

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I live like all those self-proclaimed liberal are so authoritarian if not tyrannical at hearth.

Well, I'm a liberal by temperament but I'm not a fool either. Seems to me it cannot be said about 'liberals' on this forum at the least.

I think they more like goodie two shoes that go by what a mainstream bourgeoisie culture is in fashion. (disclaimer - it not aimed at you jon, well not at you personally)

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]


What are you even talking about? You don't even know what is what? Who has been feeding you HS?


Was it in the 90'? So you were Ok. In the 80' they could lock you up and threaten with consequences to you and your Polish family unless you do something for them. In 70' just call dudes who would kick the living sh.. out of you and put you in the slammer as a spy. In 60' they would just hang you as a spy unless HMG would pay for your sorry ass.

so stop mocking your own family members for being scared - you ignorant fool.
Making pictures in a commie country that is spying. geez

Walesa wasn't scared because he was an informer. There were people with balls - Walentynowicz, Gwiazda, Maciarewicz....Walesa is an a.hole.

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

You can do that. I would have just got a private insurance.

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

Sure but then they shouldn't be forced to pay taxes on the national heath service and ZUS. That would be a fair deal.

News / Poles march against Mandatory poisoning by vaccines [202]

Dudes and Dudesess, you are not addressing the issue here. The main point people are making here is government omnipotence.

It doesn't say those people are against vaccinations in principle (if they are kudos to them) but they are against MANDATORY vaccinations.

I don't see any compelling reasons why government should be given the power to do that?
People can decide whether or not and they want they children vaccinated more power to them.

Life / Why is circumcision not practiced in Poland? [701]

So you could wear hoodie on a rainy day.

Genealogy / Mongolian the Golden Horde - do Poles have Mongolian ancestry? [256]

Dude what are you talking about? Care to re-word it? A certain parts of a territory that later became a part of Poland were at certain times part of what is know generally for people with no clear idea about those times - the Mongol empire.

Life / Why Do You Love Poland? [907]


If you're a peasant that what it must seem to you. Anyway define 'love for one's country'.

Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]

No, I'm not young, neither I'm old, in between. six feet two/ 209Ibs - clearly overweight.

Life / What is Poland's view on obesity? How healthy, fit are Poles? [166]

Well, I'm overweight, not big deal.

Law / Weapons laws in Poland. Carrying a concealed handgun? [918]


No, because you're not rational in your thinking or consistent.


Exactly, the point is you don't understand those stats - that is clear. (or don't want to understand them, that possible).

You consider yourself to be a liberal. AM I right? After all you're for abortion, gay marriage and so forth. So if someone want to own a gun - whay there is a big no no? It is not rational nor consistent. Women should have a right to do what they want even if that include to kill defenseless children if that suit them, and some law abiding citizen is not allowed do do he want with his money and purchase a gun. I don't understand it.

Not because I hold a different opinion but because it doesn't make sense.

News / Do we finally see that Russia doing something positive for Poland, by successfully resisting to EU ? [57]


You're assuming much. I wouldn't be so certain.


Probably. lol Depends on a political expediency.

News / Do we finally see that Russia doing something positive for Poland, by successfully resisting to EU ? [57]


Oh they know about them all right but are under the impression that immigration from those countries is CONTROLLED. Whatever it might be - who cares? Whilst not all would agree Britain will have a lucky escape IF they will go through with the Brexit.

Yet again Poles saved Britain. lol

News / Do we finally see that Russia doing something positive for Poland, by successfully resisting to EU ? [57]


The EU is BS. If it would like to have a future - all the rules should be scarped and rewritten anew. Germany needs to stop to try it take all over as they are not suited for a rule being a control freak with the obsessive compulsive disorder.

Then and only then it would work.
Right now the EU is a mess with issues trying to address the issue by pushing smaller states around. I say F them and leave.


Hmm ...I think Brits would rather swim a sea of chlorine infused chickens than take their quota of rape-gees or put up with an uncontrolled immigration from Europe.

By the way what is your obsession with chickens?

Off-Topic / PF members MEETUPS.....everyone welcome! [122]


You would make a career in diplomacy BB.


If you're talking about Harry, that doesn't nullify his dark side.