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jon357   
5 Mar 2024
News / Poland and Russia in military alliance - Is that even possible? At least temporary? [71]

polish linguistics into English

Polesses just sounds daft. As he well knows, the English language isn't gendered and that is one of its strengths.

Australianesses

We have the Lionesses however that is a worthy exception. The whole point when genderising English is to create an exception like that either to praise, or like 'Manageress' to diminish or like 'hostess' to distinguish a role.
jon357   
5 Mar 2024
Genealogy / What are common Polish character traits? [425]

what Americans especially
consider "typically English"

Something that has rarely been rooted in reality.

It's not a theme park.
jon357   
4 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Let's talk about shoes [334]

tuxedo

Dinner jackets? Still worn for quite a few things in the U.K.. As I remember, you're a Londoner which is probably different however in the 'gin and jaguar' belts of northern cities (even more in smaller affluent towns) they're still part of an affluent man's wardrobe.

Just buy a copy of Yorkshire Life, Cheshire Life, L*nca*shire Life, Lincolnshire Life, whatever, and the society' pages will be full of photos of local worthies wearing them.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Off-Topic / Let's talk about shoes [334]

you can wear sneakers with a suit

Only if you're French, Italian or at a pinch, Spanish.

That's why I wear leather shoes, preferably black.

Same here. Always matt leather for me rather than shiny; it's a sort of style trademark.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

fast talker I'm wondering what they're trying to get past me...

That can certainly be the case. Also people with a high IQ but poor social skills can talk too fast.

With politicians

Quite. I remember that with Thatcher they had to get her to slow down a bit. With a local politician near me though, his fast speech sounds like he's trying to drown you with facts to make replies more difficult.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Life / Grisly crimes in Poland [124]

He wouldn't look out of place taking orders behind the counter of a kebab shop.

Given the number of Poles who work in those shops in PL, no.he wouldn't. Did you look at his Facebook page?

The rest of your post suggests you need psychiatric help.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

a slip

It's a slip. He wouldn't lose marks in an assessment.

for example, in the fields

Or anywhere else.

You're still wrong, no matter how much you argue.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

I was surprised hearing sth strange, namely a grammar mistake. A

It's not a surprise. And a simple slip at the most rather than a mistake as such. Perfectly normal when speaking a foreign language even if someone has a high skill level and not an unknown in someone's first language. And as slips go, it's an "intelligent error" that doesn't impede understanding. It's also grammatically a grey area; an educated native speaker of English might say this and it wouldn't be considered an error.

It's worth mentioning that someone who takes the American prescriptive approach to grammar may view this differently to someone who takes the more universal descriptive approach.

such lists of Polish people`s vices

There aren't enough hours in the day.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Life / Grisly crimes in Poland [124]

It's actually a bit faster than normal; must be the time of day.

Wykop has a reference to him being called Dorian Slawczyk and a Facebook page for someone of that name is full of invective.
jon357   
3 Mar 2024
Life / Grisly crimes in Poland [124]

Polish media can't report it legally

Indeed, though we can mention it here.

If I wasn't on such a painfully slow connection I'd Google it myself.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Grisly crimes in Poland [124]

Isn't that Doric?

I suspect he's not Greek.

And if he is, beware of him bearing gifts...
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Genealogy / Polish looks? [1410]

they also had mustaches and willingly took bribes

That one has a face and bearing that looks a bit like an actor in a horror film set in South Dakota who's got a female hitchhiker manacled to the wall in his cellar with both legs broken.

They only join the police anyway if they're lacking in the trouser department.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

And obvious that he'd be speaking in a different register than that used while giving a speech at the UN Assembly, wouldn't he, Chucky Egg.

fluency

And Sikorski's is at a better level than his.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

but at least more fluently than Sikorski

No.

He's giving an interview rather than a speech at the UN Assembly which is why you're confused.

And B2 pronunciation with distinct American influences which suggests he's spent time there.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

at the oral exam

Which oral exam?

His fluency is fine however both his pronunciation and his catenation distract.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

is . You have no idea what the requirements at the oral exam

Which oral exam?

I conduct them all the time and am qualified to do so(and have to renew that regularly by being tested).

The definition of fluency in discourse was given to you several posts above and it's telling that your criteria doesn't actually agree with what you originally said.

Telling too that three people who work in education, at least one of whom is a currently accredited examiner, disagree with your inaccurate assessment of Mr Sikorski's fluency in spoken English.

while debunking the Russian ambassador`s lies in the UN

He was giving a speech to the UN assembly not taking an oral exam for school kids, and as you were told, the CEFR takes into account different functions of speech. I suspect your language exam from whatever source does not involve assessing a UN speech.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

which politician is more toxic and more harmful to Poland's interests

Neither of those.

The toxic ones have been voted out.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

Why is this debate happening?

A poster had said that his English was less fluent than another politician's.

It isn't.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

rapid speech with no fillers is valued

Yes. Sensibly, the CEFR scales don't stress rapidity, not least because that can vary naturally between individuals and between cultures. Appropriate/inappropriate hesitancy is a metric but not speed unless it distorts communication which of course it can also do if too rapid.

very much in line with native norms

This is the key. His English is both fluent and natural.

The CEFR metrics also of course distinguish between speaking to an audience, giving an announcement, taking part in a discussion, explaining a point of view and a few other functions of speech.
jon357   
2 Mar 2024
Life / Poles speaking English - examples [263]

the level of the native language

More a continuum than a specific level. It also involves cultural factors and individual speech habits.

Fluency

As the word suggests.