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Use your old PC or smart phone to land on the moon (or Mars)


Tlum  13 | 535
2 Mar 2024   #1
Asked AI / Google about the processing power of computers in 1970 (a year after "moon landing"). The response is below. The relevant quote:

"The total computing power of the ENTIRE WORLD in 1970 ... is a tiny fraction compared to the processing power in even PERSONAL COMPUTERS."

So your old personal computer is more powerful than all the computing power NASA had available to "put a man on the moon." When Musk has recently traveled 55 miles to, as they call it, "orbit," it was one of the "greatest achievements" in science. Compare 55 miles to 238,000 miles to the moon (55 miles is 0.00023109243 of 238K miles). Then double the miles because the astronauts "returned."

I'm not going to argue, it is just mind blowing how easy it is to fool people these days.


  • Moon landing hoax

Alien  31 | 8065
2 Mar 2024   #2
to fool people these days

It seems unlikely from today's point of view, but they landed.

jon357  77 | 26125
2 Mar 2024   #3
They were certainly there. They were tracked by telescopes and also took amazingly beautiful photographs of our globe.

Bobko  32 | 3470
17 Jun 2026   #4
are good-looking and charming

When so many bloods mix - it's only scientific that you should be healthier and better looking.

But as you grow taller, and more beautiful, and fatter - don't forget about the old nations that contributed.

-//-

When Elon Musk launches his colony on Mars - I will go there, and leave you and all your problems behind, and become a proud Martian.

Alien  31 | 8065
17 Jun 2026   #5
When Elon Musk launches his colony on Mars

You will be 110 years old and you will not fly anywhere. 😁

Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
17 Jun 2026   #6
When Elon Musk launches his colony on Mars

....we should start with a Moon colony....for testing and learning! :)

OP Tlum  13 | 535
17 Jun 2026   #7
You guys are so gullible... talking about the Moon, Mars? Still watching cartoons or Spielberg movies at your age? Figure out simple things first, eg. why your "satellite" GPS maps or mobile phones don't work in remote areas. Maybe then you'll take physics and logics more seriously.

Bratwurst Boy  10 | 13166
17 Jun 2026   #8
Figure out simple things first,

Why "figuring out simple things" if not for big dreams???

One needs the other...

Bobko  32 | 3470
17 Jun 2026   #9
You will be 110 years old and you will not fly anywhere. 😁

Such a hater.

Musk promises to start sending people in ten years. I will be in my 40s.

I will go first.

we should start with a Moon colony

I can't deal with that low gravity, and the Sun is too strong, and at night it's too cold.

You guys are so gullible

Tell us why we are never going to Mars.

OP Tlum  13 | 535
17 Jun 2026   #10
Tell us why we are never going to Mars.

For the same reason we've never been to the moon. Another reason - life on the Moon or Mars would have been 100 more challenging than life on the Sahara desert (on the desert we'd not have to worry about oxygen and -80F temperatures though).

Alien  31 | 8065
17 Jun 2026   #11
the same reason we've never been to the moon

At least you can come back from there, because with current technology it is impossible to come back from Mars to Earth.

Bobko  32 | 3470
17 Jun 2026   #12
impossible to come back from Mars to Earth.

lol.

I went to Mars.

I gotta come back... for what? To visit my mom's funeral? To see a child born?

People successfully ignore that on Earth and make up all sorts of excuses for why.

I'm on Mars - goodbye!

Przelotnyptak1  1 | 1263
18 Jun 2026   #13
I will go there, and leave you and all your problems behind, and become a..

Once a traitor, always a traitor. On the other hand, any place but USA, Siberian gulag sound about right.

Alien  31 | 8065
21 Jun 2026   #14
I'm on Mars - goodbye

Good choice, it is all red. You've probably dreamed about it.

jon357  77 | 26125
21 Jun 2026   #15
I'm on Mars - goodbye!

Wrap up well. The mean temperature there is -63c.

Alien  31 | 8065
26 Jun 2026   #16
The mean temperature there is -63c.

They don't have climate warming there yet.

Korvinus  9 | 895
7 Aug 2026   #17
The reaction inside a bomb scales exponentially,

It's communist war propaganda. All Nuke footage you've ever seen was either 1920s style composite scale effects, or just huge TNT explosions. Kids these days can tell the difference, even if you still cannot.
it's trivial to fake a nuclear blast with a dirty bomb and a reservoir of explosive materials, probably natural gas.
It obviously does produce energy, as shown above.

I'm convinced nuclear power doesn't exactly work the way they say it works, at this point. It's 2026 and it ought to be everywhere, as a mature technology. But oil is simple and stupid.

Bobko  32 | 3470
7 Aug 2026   #18
I'm convinced nuclear power doesn't exactly work the way they say it works

You live in a scary world bro...

Torq  43 | 2859
7 Aug 2026   #19
I can't believe what this thread has deteriorated into. Whatever next? Flat Earth?

*facepalm*

You live in a scary world bro...

I used to get annoyed by such things on the internet. Even a couple of years ago, I would still try to reason and explain, even if only for the benefit of 7th graders who might be reading this board. Not anymore. It's pointless... a colossal waste of time. Let them live in their own world.

Bobko  32 | 3470
7 Aug 2026   #20
Not anymore. It's pointless... a colossal waste of time

But Korvinus and Ron are longtime posters...

In other circumstances, you can debate them without any hint of schizophrenia - just conspirological thinking.

I don't understand why otherwise intelligent people, decide to argue something so strange. Maybe they truly don't know? Maybe I can help them understand?

Not believing in nukes, is sort of worse than not believing in Moon landings or dinosaurs. If a large part of the population believes those things, it can actually result in catastrophic real world results - not the same with the moon or dinosaurs.

Feniks  1 | 1161
7 Aug 2026   #21
It's communist war propaganda.

It's nuclear physics.

jon357  77 | 26125
7 Aug 2026   #22
Whatever next? Flat Earth?

We've had worse than that here and at least one regular poster is a flat earthier. There used to be one who believed that fossil fuels weren't actually fossil fuels but in fact generated spontaneously by God.

Never heard of a nice Polish restaurant

Not the best forum to say this in however Polish food isn't anything special. The same few things and mostly bland. Much better stuff in Ukraine and I'd guess also in your country too.

If a large part of the population believes those things, it can actually result in..

The internet is to blame for a lot of that. Nothing is true, everything is whatever.

Bobko  32 | 3470
7 Aug 2026   #23
The internet is to blame for a lot of that. Nothing is true, everything is..

The psychology of it is extremely puzzling, at least to me personally.

It is more puzzling than moon landing denial... because nuclear weapons are not just a single historical event captured on film. Nukes are a vast technological system, with hundreds of thousands of people, institutions, physical artifacts, and actual ongoing consequences.

It's highly likely, wherever or whoever you are, that you actually know someone who knows someone who is involved in the nuclear industry. Maybe it's not the same with astronauts and paleontologists.

-//-

I think the principal epistemological error is - "I haven't personally witnessed it, therefore it's fake".

But unlike moon landings, this is an instance of "distributed evidence" on the same order as:

1) A Boeing 747 can fly

2) There are satellites in space

3) A semiconductor powers my phone

4) A submarine can remain underwater for months

Just strange why someone would decide to take up this "flag".

-//-

Who benefits from denying that nukes exist?

Korvinus  9 | 895
7 Aug 2026   #24
The psychology of it is extremely puzzling, at least to me personally.

And here I was, trying to broaden your horizons.

Bobko  32 | 3470
7 Aug 2026   #25
And here I was, trying to broaden your horizons.

How? By dragging me down your conspiracy rabbit hole?

It's me - that's widening your horizons.

jon357  77 | 26125
7 Aug 2026   #26
Who benefits from denying that nukes exist?

Nobody at all except people who earn a couple of hundred from making dreary youtube videos about it. Like antivaxxers and 'auditors' too.

Have you ever heard about Martha Stewart?

One of the good people.

Szafranowe oplatki

This I would make.

Rufus
7 Aug 2026   #27
I find it funny that some people mock antivaxxers for not getting vaccinated at the same time. If you mock someone, you should do the opposite. Staying neutral, then, is just stupid.

OP Tlum  13 | 535
7 Aug 2026   #28
Who benefits from denying that nukes exist?

Your masters - they make peasants scared. Sheeple are easily tricked. Like Trump says, "Iran cannot have nukes because look what they did to Hiroshima." Then the scared sheeple will let him steal $1T. Next month he'll claim he never said anything like that, but the money is gone. Rinse and repeat.

Same story with the moon landing and aliens. They rely on the intellectually incapable, God-less bottom feeders because these are the majority of their votes.

jon357  77 | 26125
7 Aug 2026   #29
the moon landing

Very real, as is nuclear power and nuclear weapons.

OP Tlum  13 | 535
8 Aug 2026   #30
that's widening your horizons.

You probably still believe that Columbus discovered America.. it's hard to get rid of the official narratives as that's the most convenient way to live.

You wrote: "since the 1950s we have bombs that are hundreds of times more powerful than Hiroshima or Nagasaki"

Then why aren't you smart enough to post a related statement: "since the 1970s we have spaceships that are a hundred of times better than Appollo 11 that "landed" on the moon."

If so, why hasn't anybody been even 235,000 miles away from the moon since 1960-70s?

"SpaceX rackets routinely travel from 300 to over 1000 miles high into Earth orbit" - compare it to this again: "Distance from Earth to the Moon: 238,855 miles."




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