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Communist era 'newspeak' appeals the most to Poland PiS supporters (what a surprise) [89]
there is entire soviet union that proves I am right (by its very own collapse)
Err..that's strange logic.
Christ, people here are SO IGNORANT!! Its beyond words
Yes, because you know best, don't you? I mean, screw the research - the Dear Leader guides you!
the reason for collapse was Russian - Afghan War that was lost - in 1979 - a year before events we are talking about.
The war wasn't lost at all in 1979 - in fact, during the 79-80 period, they were winning. And well.
Thanks to delivery of modern weapon to Afghan soldiers/warriors by CIA, Russian army took MASSIVE losses in both people and military hardware
The losses weren't massive in 79-80. In fact, the Soviets were destroying them - much of the CIA equipping came much later on, too.
and was direct reason why Russians were so afraid of helping jaruzelski
If they were afraid in 80, how can you explain Soyuz 80 moves? What you're claiming has absolutely no historical basis whatsoever.
they were weakened and thinking that the same may happen in Poland
They weren't weakened. The Soviet Union could still easily have dealt with the problem - but - as always, they were worried about economic sanctions. It was made clear to them that intervening in Poland would have consequences - and furthermore, the archives in Moscow are closed.
especially that CIA was already looking at Poland and started quietly helping Solidarnosc financially
The money that the CIA contributed was peanuts. It might have helped with the purchase of printing presses and so on, but on the whole - nothing major.
Its not like they didn't have more tanks and airplanes - they obviously had, but war dried them financially
They still had more than enough cash to deal with Poland if the political will was there.
they simply had no interest in helping jaruzelski and turning polish society against themselves by direct military actions - it never worked in the past. it was way more reasonable to sacrifice him and establish 'brand new' puppet government.
Err, they had plenty of interest. But in 1980, Kania managed to convince Moscow that he could deal with it - and when he couldn't deal with it, Jaruzelski got the nod. They wanted a Polish solution to a Polish problem - not least because it would appear to be legitimate. They knew that Czechoslovakia and Hungary were public relations disasters - and the Soviet Union emerged more or less blameless for the solution.
ONLY REASON for martial law was to save asses of jaruzelski and his fellow commies
That's the sentimental reason. The truth, as always, is more complicated.
If you actually looked at it from an analytical point of view, you'd soon realise that there were two choices - do nothing, and have the Soviets eventually intervene (in line with previous Warsaw Pact actions), or do something. Don't forget that doing nothing was causing the state to collapse - and was risking civil war.
and he did it only because he still believed in this communist bullshit
I'd love to know where the historical evidence is for this assertion. Is it what you read in Gazeta Polska?
There are recordings and documents showing that. Read it before writing anything more.
Really? Please, do link us to these recordings and documents.
There is certainly enough evidence to suggest that Honecker and Husak were ready to give a beating to Poland. But for what you claim - where is it?
