Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [237]

This Black Hawk was produced in a factory in Poland (in Mielec):

army-technology.com/projects/s-70i-black-hawk-helicopter/

It was modified for the police needs - unlike other S-70i Black Hawks this one (and two others that the Polish police have) has, for example, a rotor brake - one could see it in action today in Kielce when police officers from Polish SWAT were practising rappelling onto a roof of shopping mall "Galeria Echo" - here's a video:

facebook.com/echoswi/videos/371109804465177/

It looks pretty cool when the blades basically stop rotating :)

Law / Polish Police and Their Tactics [237]

I saw this birdy in the sky today :):

kielce.naszemiasto.pl/policyjny-smiglowiec-black-hawk-juz-w-kielcach-ruszyly/ar/c1-8421653

And something for pawian :)):

News / Why is no one on here talking about the man killed by the Police in Lubin? [29]

@Milo, the funny thing though is that this forum is about Poland... lol Just saying...

Life / Proper way to format a Polish mailing address when sending to Poland? [24]

@JoeyV, yes, it's correct, although in case of such a small village I guess you could add the name of the voivodeship (just in case) too:

NAME
Nieszkowice 16
56-100 NIESZKOWICE
woj. dolnośląskie
POLAND

News / Why is no one on here talking about the man killed by the Police in Lubin? [29]

People here aren't talking about many things that are happening in Poland...

washingtonpost.com/world/protesters-attack-polish-police-after-mans-death-in-custody/2021/08/08/f95ad900-f887-11eb-911c-524bc8b68f17_story.html

The police claim that the man died on his way to the hospital. The medical rescue workers say that he was already dead when they arrived. The medical personel at ER at the hospital where he was taken say that he had a crushed larynx and so he suffocated (he was already dead when he arrived). According to the official autopsy the cause of death is "unknown". According to the witnesses the police had problems with handling that guy and they were very brutal. The new video that the family got lately is showing that one of the cops kneeled on their sons throat. So they decided to have a private autopsy... abroad. Results in two weeks time.

It looks like the police is lying and there's some subterfuge going on...

"The police claim that the man died on his way to the hospital."

Ah sorry, my mistake, it's even better - the police claims that he died two hours after he arrived at the hospital.

Btw, it isn't a daily occurence for Polish people to attack a police station...

Here's a video showing the riots and a fragment where the man in question is screaming: "They're going to kill me!":

youtu.be/Iba4D5g_CPM

Language / Can you transcribe this name? [6]

Yes, I think it's Zygmunt - that's a male name. What follows after that is scribbled terribly, I think it could be (...)aresicz. It's hard to say...

UK, Ireland / Polish drink-driving murderer sentenced to 5.5 years in prison [99]

Me neither, Lenka... Me neither...

echodnia.eu/swietokrzyskie/tragedia-w-daleszycach-mieszkancy-sa-zrozpaczeni-to-byl-okropny-widok-trudno-sie-pozbierac-wideo-zdjecia/ar/c1-15759528

" Ten mężczyzna, mąż potrąconej kobiety i dziecka, bardzo płakał. Klęczał nad córką, bił głową o asfalt i wołał: "córeczko"."

My translation (the witness described what happened):

"That man, the husband of the woman and child who were hit by a car, was crying really hard. He was kneeling over her daughter, hitting his head against the surface of the road and yelling: 'my little daughter'."

UK, Ireland / Polish drink-driving murderer sentenced to 5.5 years in prison [99]

There's been a tragedy in my region - a drunk driver in Daleszyce drove into a family taking a walk on the sidewalk. Only the husband and 7-year-old son survived, his wife and 4-year-old daughter were killed:

o2.pl/informacje/tragedia-w-daleszycach-marzena-z-coreczka-zginely-na-oczach-meza-i-ojca-jego-desperacki-krzyk-rozpaczy-rozdarl-serca-6673116977113632a

The husband is in such a bad mental state that the police officers from Kielce were unable to question him as a witness.
There were three men in that car - all of them drunk. The police couldn't question them either - not because they were in such a shock, but because they were too drunk...

And, surprise, surprise - the driver had his driving licence taken away before already for drunk driving...

It looks like some people simply shouldn't be allowed to drive.

History / Site about the Silent Unseen needs help [5]

And so you'd know - that's not just any internet site - here's the info about the project:

elitadywersji.org/informacja-o-realizacji-projektu/?fbclid=IwAR2pSRJikFhybO58LG4xampNVV3zmRz8_6CvpazLhoTKRkLAPCXoknL18rM

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]


Well, I don't know about that - check this out:

youtu.be/3aVPTBcixhE

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@gumishu, I have a bigger problem with other things that PiS has done and is still doing than how indiscriminate the 500plus is - it's you guys who are so hell-bent on taking this thread off topic and discussing 500plus (even though there are other threads for that) instead of "Lex TVN" bill (this is what this thread is all about - the "Lex TVN" bill, remember?).

Real Estate / Buying property in Poland [41]

@mochadot18, prices of flats in Poland have been going up recently like crazy, but I'm guessing they're probably still cheaper than in the US... Because of those rises in prices the trend is apparently to look for something outside of the big cities, in the suburbs:

money.pl/gospodarka/ceny-mieszkan-warszawiacy-wydaja-nawet-mniej-niz-4-tys-zl-za-metr-to-wyrazny-trend-6672800328956416a.html

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]


Exactly, you don't know. Millionaires maybe aren't taking it, but I wouldn't be surprised if many people from the middle class were taking it. And, anyway, the government should be making good laws and not pass bad laws and then hope that people won't take advantage of those bad laws. It's not the only example of PiS passing a law first and thinking later.


I see you don't comprehend what it's all about.


The "Lex TVN" bill doesn't prohibit foreign capital in general owning mass media in Poland. It will prohibit only companies from outside of the EU from owning them. German companies, for example, can still own Polish media, as maf pointed out. So this law isn't about that - it's about shutting up TVN.


Someone too smart, decent and patriotic for you to understand?


Ironside doesn't know that, because he doesn't live here and so he doesn't care.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]


I never wrote that and I don't think that way.


Sorry, but you clearly have no idea what's in my interest. Unlike you, I don't live in rich Australia or in another rich Western country like Ironside does (yeah, I actually know where he lives). I live in Poland and in my interest is to have here, for example, a well functioning health service. Australia isn't in the EU so maybe you don't know how this works - EU money usually go for building infrastructure. So, the EU can help building a hospital (the building) but the Polish state has to fill it with medical equipment, doctors and nurses. You need... guess what... yes... MONEY for that... So you can have a modern, shiny hospital that can't treat patients, because it's empty... (this is an example from my region, which is, as I already wrote, one of the poorest regions in Poland).

No, sorry, I can't agree that child support for everyone is a great idea in a country where there are people so poor that they have no toilets and bathrooms in the house and no running water... In a country that allegedely can't afford pay rises for doctors and nurses in order to keep them here, but apparently can afford giving money to rich people for having kids...

I could go on and on like this...


Which countries? Enumerate them for me and tell me how much people are getting there. And don't forget to add how much doctors and nurses are being paid in those countries, for example...

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@amiga500, oh for God's sake... I don't have a problem with giving benefits to people who actually need them (poor people). The problem with 500+ from the very beginning was that everyone could get it, no matter the income, including people for whom 500 PLN is pocket money. That's simply a waste of money that could go somewhere else where they're more needed and, yes, that's why it's buying voters.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Ironside, I live in Poland, unlike you, so there's a big chance that I know more than you do, you fanatical idiot...

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Bravo for Holland from Poland! :* 👏 🇵🇱 ❤️ 🇳🇱 🌷
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Language / English translation of cuteczka? [8]

@Chrzescijanin, I've never seen "cuteczka" being used. I guess it could be a misspelling of "córeczka", but I would have to simply see it in the context in which it was used.

You can send me the context in a private message or to my e-mail.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@cms neuf, yes, I've read about those jobs for Konfederacja offered by PiS too.

Here's an opinion about why Kaczyński and PiS hate TVN so much and why they're ready to strain relations with the US over the "Lex TVN" bill:

teleshow.wp.pl/dlaczego-jaroslaw-kaczynski-nienawidzi-tvn-opinia-6671098527418880a

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Iron, then you're just like Konfederacja - an ostrich hiding it's head in the sand :D 🙈🙉🙊

You should become a MP/politician ;D

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@Ironside, Poles commenting on that tweet are writing, among others, that Konfederacja has no balls, that they're going against their core values by not opposing that bill ("wolnościowcy" - supporters of freedom), some of the people write that they won't vote for them again because of this, that if it wasn't for the free media nobody would know about their party, etc.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

LOL Classic Iron :))

@Ironside, have you read those comments?

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

Konfederacja announced that they're going to withhold from voting, which may mean that the bill will be passed. They're being heavily criticised for this in the comments:

mobile.twitter.com/KONFEDERACJA_/status/1425442255687487494

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@amiga500, I've never lived in the West, unlike you I've lived my whole life in Poland (in one of Poland's poorest regions, btw) and still do. Maybe Western countries can afford generous and indiscriminate social benefits, but Poland can't, imho.

But that's not what this thread is about. There are other threads where we can discuss 500+. This thread is about "lex TVN" bill.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]


Something occurred to me... Maybe this is one of the reasons why PiS wants Americans to sell their shares... Because if TVN is owned by an American company it's more difficult for the Polish government to mess with that TV station - the US would have to defend the interests of an American company... If TVN won't be American-owned, PiS won't receive such a backlash from the US for messing with TVN and won't estrange an important ally of Poland... Do you think this is possible?

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]

@gumishu, on the contrary, PiS buying voters with 500+ is just another example of how low they can go to get or retain power and how short-sighted they are. Those money could be spent on health care, for example. But that's not this thread is all about, so don't divert attention from the topic :) Now pluralism and freedom of media in Poland is at stake.

News / The ruling party in Poland tries to take American owned TV news station off the air [528]


PiS cares more about power=their asses, than they care about Poland.

Yesterday there were protests in many cities against the proposed law:

apnews.com/article/europe-business-bills-e342a12276dbb2404e92db4a5f583ee9

News / What should Poland do with the problem of Belarus? [1800]

There's been a massive leak of data from Belarusian police, secret services, KGB (including names and photos of the employees, their home adresses, etc.), administration, etc. (sorry for the link in Polish, but I haven't found any article in English yet):

o2.pl/informacje/olbrzymi-wyciek-z-bialoruskich-sluzb-ujawniono-m-in-nagrania-tortur-6670747266816512a

Source for the article (in English):

mobile.twitter.com/tadeuszgiczan/status/1424734523519025152

The hacking took weeks - hackers from a group called Belarusian Cyberpartisans were patiently collecting data throughout this time, including videos of tortures carried out by the police and other services.

Language / Terms of endearment in Polish [222]

@Casper1377, mafketis is correct. I think that also "pandziak" (pronounced "panjyak") is possible:

m.facebook.com/Pandziak-759189127558897/


Poles would usually just say "pandzioch" (unlike in case of "pandzioszku"), I think.