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Des Essientes   
31 May 2011
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

You have a source stating that Nietzsche and Kirchhoff had Polish roots?

Nietzsche claims Polish roots for himself in his book Ecce Homo.
As for the amateur ethnologist PolskiMoc's claims, it does seem probable that given the linguistic and genetic affinity of the Aryans (Indo-Europeans who went into South Asia) and the Slavs that they do indeed share the same ancestors, but in claiming that the Aryans were exclusively blond and blue-eyed he has bought into Nazi lies. THe blondest people on earth are not even Indo-European at all but rather Finnish. The Proto-Indo-Europeans were not from the extreme North but rather Anatolia or the Pontic Steppes in Southern Russia. When they migrated into northern Europe they interbred with the indigenous population and it is that indigenous population that was very blonde and red-haired. The darker Poles are more "Aryan" than the fair ones.
Des Essientes   
31 May 2011
Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

You are more likely to get a sun burn on a hot summer day than a cloudy winter day for a reason.

This is because the axis of the earth is tilted relative to the sun and thus the sun's rays are less diffuse in the Summer.
Des Essientes   
31 May 2011
Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

I think it is because Britain is in the path of the Gulf stream they get so much cloud cover& rain that they never got enough sunlight to have a big demand for tanning.

The UV rays of the sun are not prevented from reaching one's skin by cloud cover.
Des Essientes   
31 May 2011
Genealogy / Why are some Polish people dark complected, and others very light [511]

Sunlight didn't "increase" at the end of the Glacial Period. In fact people moved further and further north as the glaciers retreated and thus went into areas with more and more diffuse sunlight. This is because the curvature of the earth which is unchanging.
Des Essientes   
29 May 2011
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Lesbos is the name of an island, near Turkey Aegan coast. It is said to be there were lesbians living there in that island, but, I don't know its present stiuation.)]

People from Lesbos are still Lesbians. Their title became synonomous with girl on girl eroticism because the ancient lyric poetess Sappho, who composed verses on this theme, was from Lesbos.
Des Essientes   
29 May 2011
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

The Vardar Slavs were Indoctrinated by Slavist philologists, seeded with the Idea that their so called "Macedonian" language, whilst recognizing that it is both Satem and Slavic, is Indigenous to the Haemus peninsula.

You are right Nick this is indeed ridiculous pseudo-philology. For it to be true, given the similarity of all the Slavic languages which indicates that they didn't diverge from proto-Slavic until around the start of the Common Era, then the Balkans would have to be the original Slavic homeland, which it clearly isn't because we know who was living there at the time and they weren't Slavs.
Des Essientes   
27 May 2011
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Are you sure he agrees with you? Wouldn't Slavs living in Macedonia for hundreds of years now be able to call themselves Macedonians according to your reasoning, but that is exactly what Nick objecs to seeing it as:

NoN Greeks taking from us, elements of our cultural heritage which did not belong to them in the first place!

Des Essientes   
25 May 2011
Genealogy / Polish DNA? Poles have the most genes in a group includes Balts, Macedonians and Greeks. [264]

Former Yugoslavs are not Macedonian, I mean they are not Macedonian in the Greek sense of that word, they can't be because they are SouthSlavs!

Why does their calling themselves Macedonians bother you so Greco? Here in the USA many of our states have Native American names but no one gets upset when a non-Native American from say Kansas calls himself a Kansan. Places often keep their old names despite having newer residents.
Des Essientes   
22 May 2011
History / 'Defamation': The Anti-Semism Industry & Poland [188]

But what can anyone do about it, Des?

We need campaign finance reform and we need to be able to call racism racism even if it is Jews that are perpetrating it. I guess the insistance on using the 1967 boarders as a starting point for negotiations in Obama's speech this week was a bit of a start, but it is a sad testament to the power of the Zionist lobby that even such a meager bit of even-handedness is seen as an affront to the "special relationship" between the USA and the Zionist Entity. The tail will probably still wag the dog.
Des Essientes   
22 May 2011
Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]

against that ?:

Read my posts Ironside, I didn't say the Plains Indians were the military match for the winged hussars, but rather that the Plains Indians and the Poles have a similiar chivalrous spirit that resulted from a similiar equestrian tradition. The Polish posters I saw at the Autrey Museum indicated that some Poles felt this way too. You, on the other hand, seem to be mired in an outdated form of European chauvinism. Both peoples admirably defended their steppe lands against foreigners and both peoples lost, but they both kept their noble spirits alive. Indeed, I have paid the Poles a compliment by comparing them to warriors like the Souix, but if you want to be offended by having your ancestors compared to non-white aboriginal Americans, then so much the worse for you.
Des Essientes   
22 May 2011
History / 'Defamation': The Anti-Semism Industry & Poland [188]

Why do you think it's a scam?

Because they have been negotiating the 2 state solution for 20 years and all that time the Zionists have been illegally settling the territory that the 2nd state is suppossed to occupy. Plastic, it is estimated that 2/3 of the money donated to Democrats for their election campaigns comes from Jews and 1/3 of the money donated to Republican candidates comes from Jews. Until there is campaign finance reform in America the Jewish minority will have our politicians in their pockets and this means that the Palestinians will remain dispossesed, because when it comes to their ethnic state in Palestine American Jews, who are otherwise mostly liberal and enlightened, become irrational racists.
Des Essientes   
21 May 2011
Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]

Their free spirit was primal

When on the other hand ,Poland's free spirit was a fruit of complex and rich civilisation with laws, custom and legislations

Ironside, you underestimate the complexity of the Plains Indian society. While it is true that their military technology was well behind that of their European contemporaries, when compared with their rival Indian tribes the Plains Indians look alot like Poles when compared with their European neighbors. The Plains Indians by having domesticated and militarized the horse became the central continental overlords of North America just as the Poles did in central Europe with their own variety of artillery supported equestrian based military technology. The parallels are there for anyone with eyes to see, but you insist upon the distinguishing the Plains Indians as primitive and the Poles as civilized in a myopic manner.
Des Essientes   
21 May 2011
Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]

Only on the surface

The similarity between Plains Indians and Poles stems from an innate spirit of aristocratic cockiness that both peoples share which is essential rather than superficial.

shop.theautry.org/browse.cfm/western-amerykanski-(hardcover)/4,115.html
Des Essientes   
20 May 2011
Life / The Legacy of Polish Poster design [36]

Here in Southern California we have a museum named for the cowboy/actor Gene Autrey and several years ago they had an exhibition of Polish movie posters that had been created to advertise Amercan Westerns when they played in Poland. The quality of the graphic design on all of them was superb, as was the creativity they displayed. I.E. The poster for the Richard Harris film titled "A Man Called Horse" featured a bizzare looking horse/man that wasnt a classical centaur but rather had a man's body, a horse's head, and the look of agony. The most fascinating aspect of the exhibition was that the posters revealed the fact that Poles strongly identified, not with the cowboys of the movies, but with the indians. Now I see that this is totally understandable given Poland's history and style. The boastful, expertly equestrian, Plains Indians bedecked in feathers are actually very very similiar to Poles when one thinks about it.
Des Essientes   
17 May 2011
Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

the Jatt caste

If the Jatts are indeed descended from the Massagetae, as some ethnologists believe, then you, Cheesymac, maybe distantly related to the beloved Polish literary character Pan Zagloba.
Des Essientes   
17 May 2011
Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

Hip Hop music is clearly what the thread is about and mentioning it doesn't dumb down the discussion. Hip Hop is the aspect of American black culture that the Polish in question youth prefers. Baggy pants have been a part of white cultures from France to Kurdistan for centuries and are thus not specifically black, nor is smoking weed, nor is conspicous jewelry. What aspects of specifically black culture are Polish youth into besides Hip Hop music? Is there a youthful Polish craze for eating pork fat laden Soul Food? Are Polish youth attending Protestant churches and listening to the repetitive histrionics of a sweaty fopishly dressed peacher before joining the rest of the congregation in a boisterous gospel singalong whilst dancing? I think not.
Des Essientes   
16 May 2011
Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

It's true rock and roll has both black and white forebears but the term itself originated amongst black Americans as a coital euphamism before it was used to designate a genre of blues music. I think Polish youth like hip hop because it is a freer art-form than earlier styles of pop music and that appeals to the poetic unbound nature of their spirit.
Des Essientes   
16 May 2011
Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

That is a very demeaning thing to say about one's own nation.

What did Miłosz say that demeans a nation, and which nation was demeaned?
Des Essientes   
16 May 2011
Life / New Polish generation prefers black culture? [145]

Czesław Miłosz wrote that upon his arrival in the USA he found that African-Americans were like Poles. The creativity and emotional exuberance of both peoples are in stark contrast to uptight Anglo culture.
Des Essientes   
16 May 2011
History / Were Nobles during Commonwealth constituting the Nation of Poland? [37]

What made them better, was it that they accumulated wealth and then weaved a story about their origins being somehow more divine, or in this case, a separate race?

Accumulating wealth wasn't the only way to be admitted into the slachta as it is said that common soldiers were sometimes enobled for bravery upon the battlefield. As for the story regarding their Sarmatian origins the szlachta didn't weave the story entirely themselves, rather a book, written by Tacitus at around 100 AD, was discovered in Herschfeld abbey and sent to Italy in 1455, this book became known as The Germania. The tome placed the Sarmatians to the East of the Germans in the place Poland now occupied and so the Szlachta inferred that the Sarmatians must be their ancestors. There may actually be some truth to this genealogical claim because there are words in Polish that linguists claim are of Iranian, rather than Slavic origin, such as the name of the pagan diety Swarog as well as the monotheistic Bogu. People in other places in Europe almost certainly have Sarmatian ancestry. It is said that the names "Serb" and "Croat" both originally designated Sarmatian warbands, and it is a definite fact that many Alans (another name for Sarmatians) settled in France in the area of Orleans. The most direct descendants of the Sarmatians alive today in Europe are the Ossets who still speak a Persian tongue. As for this thread's titular question the answer is certainly yes. The Commonwealth was a noble republic not a popular one.
Des Essientes   
13 May 2011
News / Achievements of the Tusk's Polish government [532]

Torq, I said they were boring that doesn't mean they don't serve some redeeming purpose. As for the abusive language you've used against me I must say that coming from you, an apologist for both the Habsburg imperialist domination of Southern Poland as well as the racist abomination that is Zionism, I don't feel you are qualified to judge me nor any other sane person on this discussion forum.
Des Essientes   
9 May 2011
Love / How do Polish men feel about gender equality? [780]

Slut walks are dangerous.

The "slut walk" that Zimmy posted about above. Has nothing to do with putting law enforcement into dating, nor is it a new feminist tactic for degrading the status of men, but rather a response to the Toronto Police Force whose spokesman claimed women who get raped are culpable for "dressing like sluts".
Des Essientes   
7 May 2011
History / Where did the power of Poland vanish to, since... let`s say, some 300 years ago? [180]

Liberum Veto, combined with the limitless selfishness of the schlachta, led to Poland's downfall.

It was the traitors amongst the szlachta who used the Liberum Veto in the service of their foreign patrons that precipitated Poland's downfall. The Liberum Veto itself is not to blame.