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What do Poles think about Turks?


George8600  10 | 630
8 Oct 2010   #631
You killed the thread southern...good work... @_@
Sarp  - | 2
10 Oct 2010   #632
Turkish people mostly has positive and good feeling about Poles.
Seanus  15 | 19666
10 Oct 2010   #633
Poles and Turks have a different mentality in ways but there never appears to be any animosity. The quieter Poles tend to get on with the Turks here very well.
rock  - | 428
10 Oct 2010   #634
Poles and Turks have a different mentality in ways

What are these differences according to you Seanus ?
southern  73 | 7059
10 Oct 2010   #635
The quieter Poles tend to get on with the Turks here very well.

It is because the Poles tend to put their heads down like the Turks.But it is superficial.
Seanus  15 | 19666
10 Oct 2010   #636
Well, the Catholic faith is a major one, rock. Turkey is far more secular.

What else? In all my dealings with Turkish people (online chess a lot), they are always polite. There is not this guarantee here at all with Poles.

There appears to be a greater embracing of diversity amongst Turks. They are very different as people in their appearance too.
southern  73 | 7059
10 Oct 2010   #637
Turkish people (online chess a lot), they are always polite.

Turks are sneaky.The Turk tries always to deceive you.I as Balkan understand that instantly.I know what he does.
Poles and Turks have nothing in common.Turks are way too conservative.Poles are liberal,free.In Turkey you seldom see women dressed in hot mini skirts,shorts etc.You don't see companions of males drinking vodka on big tables.Generally very different culture.Polish culture is slavic extreme.
Seanus  15 | 19666
10 Oct 2010   #638
Well, I can only interpret from comments online but I am cautious of those that are too polite to me. Poles are liberal??? What??
southern  73 | 7059
10 Oct 2010   #639
Yes,Poles drink and fuckk freely.In Turkey you don't feel this freedom.
I was with a Russian girl in Istanbul all Turks tried to pick up her and said exactly the same things.It is boring.Not that Greeks are better but we are not so sneaky how to put that?
Seanus  15 | 19666
10 Oct 2010   #640
Sneaky? People from any country can be sneaky and Poles are no exception. I've been on the receiving end of sneakiness here.
rock  - | 428
11 Oct 2010   #641
In all my dealings with Turkish people (online chess a lot), they are always polite. There is not this guarantee here at all with Poles.

I am surprised you emphasize all positive features for Turks and negative for Poles. When I visited Prague last year, it is said that Czechs are mostly atheists. How can Poland be such conservative. Is it a tale or a truth ?

About politeness, it is true I think. One example : In a thread last week a Turkish girl wrote that she wants to teach English or Turkish in Poland and wanted to have some info. A lot of posters began to criticize her English. A Turk usually pays attention not to hurt someone in that situation even if he/she notices that her English is not good.

Turks usually supports the weak side and not attacks.

Turks are sneaky.The Turk tries always to deceive you.

What is funny Greeks are defined as sneaky in Turkey.

In Turkey you seldom see women dressed in hot mini skirts,shorts etc.You don't see companions of males drinking vodka on big tables.

Yes mostly women do not dress in mini skirts nowadays. But in 1970's there was mini skirt fashion and in big cities a lot of women were dressing in mini skirts.

I have to confess that sex is not as free as Europe but drinking is not like that. Turks like to drink, you can find a lot of pubs, bars.
Seanus  15 | 19666
11 Oct 2010   #642
Poles are very traditional from custom and also conservative through church beliefs/indoctrination. They tend to stick with known paths and are more homogeneous than most I have come into contact with.
bosman  - | 6
11 Oct 2010   #643
You don't see companions of males drinking vodka on big tables.

Yeah, Turks drink RAKI!
Seanus  15 | 19666
11 Oct 2010   #644
Raki? That's the stuff I bought in Albania. Or was it rakia?
rock  - | 428
11 Oct 2010   #645
Poles are very traditional from custom and also conservative through church beliefs/indoctrination. They tend to stick with known paths and are more homogeneous than most I have come into contact with.

I think Poland have the potantial to be a power in Europe. But if this mentality goes on it is almost impossible.

Yes, our national drink is Rakı :)
Seanus  15 | 19666
11 Oct 2010   #646
What do you understand by "to be a power", rock? In what way?
bosman  - | 6
11 Oct 2010   #647
Raki? That's the stuff I bought in Albania. Or was it rakia?

Rakı in Turkey, Rakia in Albania or Ouzo in Greece. There are slight differences between them, but Rakı is the original and the best one!

What rakı means to a Turk, is the same as what wódka means to a Pole.
Seanus  15 | 19666
11 Oct 2010   #648
It was quite nice, a bit of an acquired taste. Is raki that diverse? There are many types of vodka.
David_18  65 | 966
11 Oct 2010   #649
and are more homogeneous than most I have come into contact with.

Thank god for that!!!
George8600  10 | 630
11 Oct 2010   #650
What are these differences according to you Seanus ?

The differences that go by INDIVIDUALITY...do you seriously think people think because of their ethnicity? One would have to be a delusioned uneducated nationalist to be influenced so strongly...

Sneaky? People from any country can be sneaky and Poles are no exception. I've been on the receiving end of sneakiness here.

Indeed...

What is funny Greeks are defined as sneaky in Turkey.

Funny...here in America you guys are defined as the bird we eat. Just because words are spelled the same doesn't adhere the same meaning.

I think Poland have the potantial to be a power in Europe. But if this mentality goes on it is almost impossible.

What power? Poland is a modern democracy. All you Balkan fools still cry about you precious empires from the dark ages because you're too nationalistic too advance. It's always the Turks with the Ottoman Empire, the Greeks with Ancient Greece, the Macedonians with Ancient Macedonia, Bulgarians with Byzantium....SIGH...get real. The more you accept that your existence has nothing to do with those things the more you will accomplish as an individual and respect others. Nationalism is nice, but ultranationalism is a poison.

What do you understand by "to be a power", rock? In what way?

Like I said, these Balkaners have no sense of modern democracy...

It was quite nice, a bit of an acquired taste. Is raki that diverse? There are many types of vodka.

It's all Vodka. Just like many foods and drinks, the Turks and Balkaners ripped it off the Persians or Europeans, tweaked a few things and named it their own... (please don't take this seriously, I'm only mocking...)
rock  - | 428
11 Oct 2010   #651
George8600

I agree most of your opinions in your previous posts but not the post above.

If you are not from another planet or time ( Hımmmm can 8600 be year 8600 ? ) you have to be aware of global and regional powers in todays world. You don't have to go middle ages. Nothing changed George.

So-called modern democracy USA which you live in is an Empire of modern times. She thinks that she has right to control all countries and take their sources whenever she wants. But of course, they make some naive people like you believe that she is spreading democracy in the world. We see USA democracy in Iraq for 7 years.

George, if you say I do not want any power other than USA, I do not accept your opinion but respect. But if you say this power issue is about ultra -nationalism in Balkans, I can say you are an American fool.
Seanus  15 | 19666
11 Oct 2010   #652
Poles tend not to think beyond kebabs. They can't profit from the Turks so they leave them alone.
rychlik  41 | 372
11 Oct 2010   #653
I have a Bulgarian housemate and he doesn't seem to like Turks. Why? Did Turks rape Bulgarians?
I don't mind Turks. I have a chubby Turkish classmate who looks like Megan Fox :)
rock  - | 428
11 Oct 2010   #654
I have a Bulgarian housemate and he doesn't seem to like Turks. Why? Did Turks rape Bulgarians?

We did not rape them but we ruled them 500 years :)
George8600  10 | 630
12 Oct 2010   #655
Yes American Imperialism, we all know about it and it's why I'm a liberal and not a conservative. These people rot many things and prevent a pure democracy. But like Plato said, democracy existing in pure form would be a form of Utopia and by human nature that is very hard to exist. Also I am not naive, you are rather that for thinking all Americans are the same. Have you not seen the tea party movements and the fights in congress? Also, I might live in America but there are tons of things here I don't agree with.

Also why would you respect that? Anyone who thinks the world should be ruled in unipolar power under their own country is a fool. Very much like the Nazi's. But you cannot deny that there are tons of nationalist problems in the Balkans (of course it's not as serious as in some places in mainland europe where people are killed) but still...
bosman  - | 6
12 Oct 2010   #656
I have a Bulgarian housemate and he doesn't seem to like Turks. Why? Did Turks rape Bulgarians?

A lot happened back in times between Bulgarians and Turks:

The first program of assimilation of the Turkish minority started under Zhivkov administration.
5. Organising social pressure upon the Turkish minority (unemployment) and pushing them to migrate to Turkey.
Those measures affected nearly 1.5 million people. The majority of them was forced to accept the imposed measures. Some Turkish intellectuals collaborated with the authorities; others founded an illegal resistance movement, which turned following the collapse of the Communist regime, into the current political party: The Movement for Rights and Freedoms (MRF).

But after the fall of Soviets, relations between Turkey and Bulgaria started to change. They see each other as a strategic partner now and Bulgaria supports Turkey's accession to EU.

I have many many Bulgarian and Turkish friends from Bulgaria and it is "rare" to see hate speech. Nowadays there are more then 800K Turks living in Bulgaria!
George8600  10 | 630
12 Oct 2010   #657
it is "rare" to see hate speech

True, this never solves anything.
jonni  16 | 2475
10 Nov 2010   #658
Has anyone here visited Polonezkoy (Adampol) near Istanbul - I'll be there tomorrow for a month (Istanbul, that is) and would like to see Polonezkoy - it it worth a visit?
convex  20 | 3928
10 Nov 2010   #659
Polonezkoy

Wow, the story behind that town, and Polish-Turkish relationships is amazing.

From the wikipedia entry:

Polish-Turkish relations have been good since the 18th century, and the Ottoman Empire was the only major power in the world which never recognized the dissolution and partitioning of Poland between Austria-Hungary, Russia and Prussia, while Constantinople (Istanbul) remained as the only capital city in the world to maintain a "Polish Ambassador" until the end of the First World War and the subsequent re-creation of Poland.

mephias  10 | 296
10 Nov 2010   #660
Has anyone here visited Polonezkoy (Adampol) near Istanbul - I'll be there tomorrow for a month (Istanbul, that is) and would like to see Polonezkoy - it it worth a visit?

What is good about Polonezkoy is nature and food (Very good restaurants but a bit expensive ). Most people go there at the weekends to leave chaos of Istanbul behind. Normally it might not be very interesting for a tourist but you will stay for a long time and you are going from Poland it may be interesting for you. You won't regret if you go you will not loose too much if you don't (if your first time there is a lot else to see in Istanbul).

If you are planning to go at the weekend make your plan carefully traffic is disaster in Istanbul.

If you haven't googled yet here you can find more information.


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