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What do Poles think about Turks?


King Sobieski 2 | 716
1 Jun 2008 #301
Because Serbs killed lots of innocent Muslim Bosnians which will not be forgotten.

from my understanding the Serbs weren't the only ones on killing spree for the last 300-400 years...Croats, Serbs and Muslim Bosnians have all partaken.
Marek 4 | 867
2 Jun 2008 #302
How, pray tell, did we get from 'What do Poles think about Turks?' to 'Ethnic Cleansing in the Balkans'????!!

A bit of a stretch by anyone's imagination. Nie wyobrazam sobie, o to chodzi tutaj. Dyskusja będzie teraz głupa a myślę, że nie chcę dalej o tym!

I meant rather, ".......że nie chcę mówić dalej o temat!"

nie chcę dalej mówić o temat.

Sooner or later, I knew I'd get it right. -:)
polishgirltx
3 Jun 2008 #303
nie chcę dalej rozmawiać na ten temat.

;)
Marek 4 | 867
3 Jun 2008 #304
"...if I WERE you...."

dzięki, Justyśiu!! Teraz zrozumiem, że musi być niedokonany ('rozmawiać' nie 'porozmawiać).

Sometimes, I translate from German into Polish, as you could probably tell. -:) LOL
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jun 2008 #305
The Germans seem to really like the Turks when they do not live next to them.What an altruism.
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #306
Bratwurst what do you think about Greeks in Germany ? Do they have more friendly contacts with Turks or with Germans ?
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jun 2008 #307
I have noticed that many Greeks of second generation in Germany have become successful doctors,lawyers and engineers.They used the educational system in Germany to their full advantage.Some of them excell and are proffessors in famous german universities.

In greek families there is a lot of pressure for academic achievement and the parents help their children every way they can.
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #308
When we look on IQ league we are much closer to Turks than Germans.
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jun 2008 #309
Socrates,really now do you expect that I take you for a Greek?
Would any Greek ever claim that Greek IQ is close to the low range of Europe,where Turkish IQ hits bottom?
No Greek says that.I agree with that.It is a shame and has to do with
1.Lots of slaves in ancient times who later became Greeks(imagine in ancient Athens 50000 free people,450000 slaves.Among the 50000 lived Pericles,Euripides,Alcibiades,Socrates,Plato,Thucydides,Phidias,Protagoras,Xenophon,an unbelievable number of geniuses,so the IQ of the free people was the highest ever in the world,no other folk has produced such an amount of achievements in so little time by so few people).

2.Mix with Albanians,Bulgarians,Serbs who have low IQ.
3.Arab mix,again low IQ
4.Catastrophic Turkish influence which promoted the survival of the less gifted for centuries.It was a negative natural selection.
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #310
I am Greek. I find it stupid that you talk so much about IQ. when we don't look good in this statistics. I find it stupid that you talk about Slavic nations as about one nation when we see that there are enormous differences between them. Look on this table Poles Serbs and Russians...

In copmarison to Germans we look more like Turks. As I know there was racist violence against Greeks in Germany. We are Turks for their skinheads. Just stop posting stupid propaganda.

spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,508882,00.html

Another racist attack in Germany -- three Greeks were attacked and beaten up by 12 skinheads in the Pankow district of eastern Berlin.

southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jun 2008 #311
I am Greek

No way.The opinions you express are not expressed by Greeks of whatever party.

I find it stupid that you talk so much about IQ. when we don't look good in this statistics.

Why?I am also not glad about statistics but this is the truth.These are the genes.We have to recognize our weaknesses.

I find it stupid that you talk about Slavic nations as about one nation when we see that there are enormous differences between them. Look on this table Poles Serbs and Russians...

Slavic nations are close linguistically,culturally etc.Let's say western Slavs are more Europeanized,eastern Slavs have an Asiatic influence and south Slavs have Mediterranean temperament.

The differences in IQ can be explained.
Poles as the purest Slavs have the highest IQ among them.
Russian IQ is lowered due to tartaric mix which came from folks with lower IQ.
Serbian IQ is lowered due to same reasons working out in Greece,that is
1.Albanian mix
2.Negative natural selection for centuries during Turkish occupation.
3.The Serbs have also the disadvantage that the old folks living there were not so developed as the ancient Greeks were,so illyrian,dardanian etc IQ was definitely lower than ancient Greek IQ,since many Serbs have originn from the people who lived there before the Slavs came,their IQ is influenced accordingly.

However culturally the Serbs belong to Slavs and by separating from Albanians,overthrowing Turkish occupation,their IQ has started to get up as well.
Marek 4 | 867
4 Jun 2008 #312
'The Germans seem.......'

......much the same as many white US liberal Democrats during the late '60's and early '70's who "loved Harry, Sidney and Sammy, hope ev'ry colored boy becomes a star. Just don't talk about Revolution! That's goin' a little bit too far. So loveme, love me, love me, I'm a liberal." (the late Phil Ochs --:) )

White people "love" black people........but not as neighbors. LOL

Now that's REALLY disingenuous,
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #313
Surely not. You've probably bullied your 'opponents' into submission so that they were afraid to admit ignorance

Bullied by ME?
The sole German on a board full with Poles, Serbs, English, even Jews???

To much honor!!! :):):)
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #314
so we are more stupid than north nations :(
we can't be racists
look on our problems in the past :

RACISM WOGS Italians Greeks Maltese Lebs Serbs Macos Arabs

youtu.be/45BSeG9y99c

in this movie we can see problems we had with north people.

In Germany Greeks still face so many problems.

Look on 2:50 on this movie, we were toilet cleaners.
Seanus 15 | 19,706
4 Jun 2008 #315
Hi Socrates,

How's Zico?
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #316
In Germany Greeks still face so many problems.

Which ones?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greeks_in_Germany

About 350.000 people is not much to speak about...Germans know Greeks mostly because of their food and restaurants.

dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3127654,00.html

A recent proposal to set up Turkish-medium schools in Germany was strongly criticized by politicians. The response ignores the fact that one immigrant group in Germany, the Greeks, has for decades had its own schools.

southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jun 2008 #317
Greeks-wogs
English-punks
etc.There is a term for everyone in Australia.However I noticed a lot of australian girls getting greek boyfriends on their vaccations on greek islands.

In Greece Australians are called cungaroos.

If you notice in the movie the Greeks are assimilated in Australia like in Germany,Sweden and avery country they happen to live.
This is the difference between the Greeks and Turks.The Greeks want to change and become europeans,they always look how things are done in Europe while Turks want to remain Turks,they are proud and do not want to change.
szkotja2007 27 | 1,498
4 Jun 2008 #318
Hi Socrates,

How's Zico?

Damn - you stole my line !

( Still smokes 20 a day apparently )
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #319
This is the difference between the Greeks and Turks.The Greeks want to change and become europeans,they always look how things are done in Europe while Turks want to remain Turks,they are proud and do not want to change

Greeks are Europeans...Turks not!
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #320
You are nice on forum !

What about it: spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,508882,00.html

Another racist attack in Germany -- three Greeks were attacked and beaten up by 12 skinheads in the Pankow district of eastern Berlin.

Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #321
That's bad...but you brought that example again and again.

What about this:

Before Christmas a 76-year-old pensioner was beaten up on the Munich metro. His two assailants were, in one of the more unlikely criminal teams, a German born Turk and a 17-year-old Greek immigrant. The attack must have marked the first time a Greek and a Turk have fought on the same side.

How should I judge the Greeks now after that?

PS:

You are nice on forum !

I'm just a nice person! :)
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #322
How should I judge the Greeks now after that?

In Greece we argue with Turks. In Germany Turk and Greek are brothers. It is normal we are similar.

The attack must have marked the first time a Greek and a Turk have fought on the same side.

Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #323
It is normal we are similar.

No...Greeks and Turks don't appear similar in Germany.
For example this beating of an old man happened before by Turks but never by Greeks, that's why people wondered...maybe the Turks have a bad influence on you?

Greeks are integrated fine, Turks are not.

Actually you are puzzling me and I think other board members too....you do seem so strange for a Greek...I doubt you are a real Greek!
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #324
Greek must be like Southern ?

I am open-mind person. I believe in multiculturalism. I am Greek, I like Turks I like Jews. Greeks had many problems in the past (olive skin).

I can't stand opinions I read here.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #325
Greeks had many problems in the past (olive skin).

Do you live in Germany?

How do you know?

I am Greek, I like Turks

You are not speaking for your people it seems:

news.bbc

Turkish court bans YouTube access

Access to the popular video-sharing website YouTube has been suspended in Turkey following a court order.
The ban was imposed after prosecutors told the court that clips insulting former Turkish leader Mustafa Kemal Ataturk had appeared on the site.
According to Turkish media, there has been a "virtual war" between Greek and Turkish users of the site, with both sides posting insulting videos.

osiol 55 | 3,922
4 Jun 2008 #326
Greeks had many problems in the past (olive skin).

Banana skins can be much more dangerous.
Socrates - | 20
4 Jun 2008 #327
I am sorry mister Bratwurs boy. I don't live in Germany.
Still Greek can't be racist like Southern is.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #328
Still Greek can't be racist

Cut the crap!

Remember the link about greek elite military group singing of their hate against everything turkish?

Why are you trying to present a reality which just is not true?
southern 75 | 7,096
4 Jun 2008 #329
Another racist attack in Germany -- three Greeks were attacked and beaten up by 12 skinheads in the Pankow district of eastern Berlin.

Probably they regarded them as Turks.If by any attack you can prove you are Greek,skinheads do not bother you.

Before Christmas a 76-year-old pensioner was beaten up on the Munich metro. His two assailants were, in one of the more unlikely criminal teams, a German born Turk and a 17-year-old Greek immigrant. The attack must have marked the first time a Greek and a Turk have fought on the same side.

It is strange.I guess the Turk asked some bad influence on the greek teenager.Normally Greeks do not attack elderly people.The second generation Turk fooled the greek boy.

Greeks are integrated fine, Turks are not.

That's what I am saying.Germans do not even regard Greece as part of Balkans.

I doubt you are a real Greek!

Maybe a Greek from Germany who happens to have a lot of Turkish friends or from mixed origin,I do not know.However in no case a Greek from Greece.

Mind you second generation Greeks in Germany speak perfect German,better than they speak Greek.Their Greek is broken,so to say.
Turks in Germany cannot even speak German or speak German mixed with Turkish words,a peculiar language.They have always Turkish accent.
Bratwurst Boy 9 | 10,423
4 Jun 2008 #330
Yup...there is word for it I believe...türk proll or something like that...


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