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Did Poles living in Germany support Hitler's rise to power before World War II?


OP Alien  29 | 7397
21 Jul 2025   #151
brilliant man...

A role model for all dictators. ☠
OP Alien  29 | 7397
29 Sep 2025   #152
All three AfD candidates for mayor in the municipal runoff elections in North Rhine-Westphalia lost. Even in Gelsenkirchen, a city with almost 20% unemployment and a lot of emigrants, including from Poland. 😃
grabber  - | 60
30 Sep 2025   #153
Everyone knows the Hitler-Pilsudski pact during the period of tender friendship between Poland and Germany in 1934.
The strength of allied relations between Poland and Germany is evidenced by the following fact. In March 1935, Jozef Pilsudski, the founder of the bourgeois Polish state, died. Hermann Göring, then chairman of the Reichstag, flew to Krakow for the farewell ceremony for the late Pilsudski.
Korvinus  8 | 785
30 Sep 2025   #154
Everyone knows the Hitler-Pilsudski pact during the period of tender friendship between Poland and Germany in 1934.

What would Germany have to offer Poland at this point? "Oh hai Poland, you will lose all your sea access and you'll be a puppet forever, but you can have all of Ukraine up to Kiev, including a big pissed-off Ukrainian population"? Why would Poland sign up to this? Why would Germany offer it in the first place?
The Nazis couldn't have allied Poland long-term, because occupying Poland was a stepping stone towards Lebensraum in the east. Perhaps if Poland had totally submitted to Germany, Germany might have given some concessions on the short term. But in the long run, never, because Nazi Germany was an existential threat to an independent Poland. Hitler is on record stating again and again that he wanted to get rid of the Poles.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12475
30 Sep 2025   #155
....thats what the Google AI has to say....

....Adolf Hitler did not attend the funeral of Polish Marshal Józef PiƂsudski; he attended a separate memorial service in Berlin on May 18, 1935, for which he ordered a public service to be held, the only time he is recorded as attending a Holy Mass as a church leader. Hitler, who respected PiƂsudski and had hoped for a long-term alliance, sent Joachim von Ribbentrop to represent him at the actual funeral in Warsaw....

It's still puzzling, isn't it....why did Hitler respect Pilsudski so much? He was a Pole....
Torq  21 | 1852
30 Sep 2025   #156
why did Hitler respect Pilsudski so much?

Hitler hated communists. PiƂsudski organised a Red Army Wpierdol Day in August 1920. Here's your answer.
Ironside  53 | 13745
30 Sep 2025   #157
.why did Hitler respect Pilsudski so much? ..

You need to ask him. I guess, because he was an autocrat, the victorious leader of the war with Soviet Russia. Maybe their personalities - narcissistic mitoman kind - somehow clicked.
He was a Pole..

I think he would correct you there - he was Lithuanian from the old Republic, not the new chauvinistic tribal breed.
I would say his sentiments allowed the Lithuanian Republic to exist after 1920.
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Also, I must say that Hitler was the first German leader to attempt to normalize relations with Poland after World War I. He even saw Poland as a potential ally.
I think his later beef with Poles and Poland psychologically stemmed from his perception that Poles were leading him on and then turned against him. When in fact they were just detached from reality.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12475
30 Sep 2025   #158
Here's your answer.

....Pilsudski living could have changed history....fickle fate!

He even saw Poland as a potential ally.

.....It truly looks that way in the interwar period.
Torq  21 | 1852
30 Sep 2025   #159
Pilsudski living could have changed history

Big way! I'm just not sure if eventually for the better or for worse.
Bratwurst Boy  9 | 12475
30 Sep 2025   #160
.....isn't that the truth here!

I love to read "what if" - alternate history stories....but about that special possibility isn't much to find...maybe its just to mind boggling?
OP Alien  29 | 7397
2 days ago   #161
....Pilsudski living could have changed history....

Then Poland would become a second Romania or Hungary.


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