20 years of Poland in the EU.

Attached bottle caps are the devil's pepper grinder!

They are an abomination... they make it harder to drink from, pour from or to re-close the bottles they're on.

And they do nothing for litter.

Dumb, dumb, dumb idea....

You can always twist them off. That or pour the drink into a nice glass.

They really do make a positive difference.

...and still they never amounted to much.....the revolutions were elsewhere!


...but the truth! Environmental protection is a natural point for the conservatives....they even have it in their name....to "conserve"....to protect what is good! The real Left gives a flying **** about the environment....there was never a more stinking mud than the GDR!

A successfull green party/green policy will happen with the rightist, with the center, with the conservatives or not at all....mark my words!

That or changed the course of humanity.


Ripping money and assets off from ordinary people and common infrastructure is more normal yet for them.

How? If I twist them off it's just more work to do what I've always done....

It's hardly a burden...

An irritation that probably does no good for the environment and maybe actually harms it (the connected caps seem to use more plastic).

It does. The issue of the tops littering the streets and going down drains was what prompted the move.


A few molecules maybe.

Assuming that one person unscrews just one cap per day and throws it away, this creates 400,000 tons of plastic waste worldwide every day.

I have to correct myself, it's 'only' 40,000 tons of waste every day.

I'm really flabbergasted. What irritation? A 4 and a 7 yo in my family didn't even notice the difference. I'm sure that if such small kids manage adults should have no problems. It seems to be people who are irritated by it simply want to be irritated.

From what I read it's also about the sorting machines. Even if the cap was thrown into recycling it wasn't being recycled because of its size.

What do you mean it is a pain to unscrew all those plastic bottles? They added another difficulty level to it just to annoy people. /it is pure malice. If they were about ecological stuff they would ban plastic battles completely and we would have glass bottles with metal or plastic tops.

Somehow achievable partial outcomes are more relevant than irrelevances introduced for the sake of rhetoric.

Hard to know why you're moaning about bottle tops. Do you have a phobia about them or do you just inherently fear change?

complaining customer, not everyone has a waiter to open a bottle for them or drink only Svalbardi.

in Poland there was a number of charities that collected (asked people to collect) plastic bottle tops which were later sold for profit for recycling - since it is illegal now to dispose of the bottles without the tops they are pretty screwed

It is indeed. It's like with those paper drinking straws that melt in your mouth whilst disposable plastic cups and plastic cup covers are still used. Not to mention plastic bags, plastic boxes and plastic pretty much everything. But the drinking straw must be paper - not because it's ecological, as you have to use 3 of those before you finish your drink, but just to show you that you are a piece of sh*t who has nothing to say, they can decree what they want, and there's nothing you can do about it.

And there's a cherry on top - those paper drinking straws, which are supposed to be used to reduce plastic waste, come in plastic packaging (to avoid contamination because paper is hygroscopic ha ha :D). So the purpose is not ecology but to show you your place, your worth (zero). Green Khmers are ruthless.

I'm sure they'll find other activities. And of course their very existence confirms that there was an issue.


Hopefully not for long.


They actually require only minuscule amounts of crude oil to make, however the problem is that people weren't recycling them and they take centuries to biodegrade.

Several people here just looking to moan about change.

Recently I got some made from rice, they lasted until the end and are 100% organic.

no there wasn't - they weren't collecting them from the streets and sidewalks - they had special containers were people threw the bottle tops

Who said they were?

The fact that the bottle caps were hanging around and not being disposed of is the issue. Did you think that most people used such containers? I've never seen one.

Now that has been solved to the satisfaction of the majority.

no it wasn't like that at all - people deliberately kept bottle tops to give to the charities - even schools sometimes asked pupils to bring bottle tops when they were involved in some kind of charities or to raise funds for their own projects - what I believe it was much more probable that plastic bottle tops would go to waste if they were binned than when people gathered them and then gave them to charities etc

How many people? Poland has 38 million

It's a good thing to do, but no longer any need to keep bottle tops. There's plenty of other plastic items however that are available to be saved for recycling by charities or other groups.

Including Ukrainians, Poland has a population of well over 40 million.

It was a commendable effort, albeit with a significant error on your part. BB was discussing the country, and you altered the context by referring to individuals; it's not equivalent, even though the Eskimo reference was clever, albeit incorrect, from my viewpoint.

Again, with the change of direction and evasion, you were promoting the benefits to the environment, but suddenly, it is not the environment; it is hardly a burden.
Give me a break.

Hee, whaaat?

Be careful with your posts until the UK Labour Party unveils it's Budget in October.More taking money from pensioners and the middle class.......