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Poland's undying debt to Polonia


Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Oct 2012 #61
Grzegorz,I have never commented on you

Yawn... You are totally missing my point.
p3undone 8 | 1,135
6 Oct 2012 #62
Grzegorz,why do you have to be rude?I'm not missing your point at all;I made a comment and you've been going on and on about it.I'm not thinking in terms of specifically you or anyone else.
peterweg 37 | 2,320
6 Oct 2012 #63
that sounds high.

I'm paying 5K, I assume Harry is earning 35k per month or he is paying personal tax at 38%.
rybnik 18 | 1,461
6 Oct 2012 #64
This is yearly right?.........
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
6 Oct 2012 #65
This group, numbering a few hundred thousand

I'm not convinced that it was so low - I've never seen any reliable figures on the matter, but there was a degree of support from the lower classes of society who were promised much more than they had. If I was guessing - I'd estimate somewhere less than a million, but more than half a million.
Harry
6 Oct 2012 #66
About tax, VAT (23%) and then 19% income tax and then 900zl ZUS. Apparently I can keep what's left (but pay 23% VAT when I buy something). I wish I knew where all that money went.
Grzegorz_ 51 | 6,161
6 Oct 2012 #67
Grzegorz,why do you have to be rude?I'm not missing your point at all

OK, so let's go though it again. You said:

I can see how you would be annoyed at someone who hasn't lived there all their life and wasn't born and raised there doing the same thing

OK, you are right. I am. I am annoyed that several British expats are doing the same thing and even more so that you are supporting their claims to posses some superior knowledge just for being temporary located in Poland. Are you going support me, If I start pushing "you were not born/educated here, don't even speak Polish, so what can you know" line against them ? Y/N and why ?
peterweg 37 | 2,320
6 Oct 2012 #68
I'm not convinced that it was so low - I've never seen any reliable figures on the matter, but there was a degree of support from the lower classes of society who were promised much more than they had. If I was guessing - I'd estimate somewhere less than a million, but more than half a million.

Agreed, I have no way of knowing the exact figure.

This is yearly right?.........

No, monthly.

About tax, VAT (23%) and then 19% income tax and then 900zl ZUS. Apparently I can keep what's left (but pay 23% VAT when I buy something).

Well, look at this way, 19% is pretty low - even without a tax free element.
delphiandomine 88 | 18,454
6 Oct 2012 #69
If I start pushing "you were not born/educated here, don't even speak Polish, so what can you know" line against them ?

Except that some of us have been educated here (I could introduce you to several graduates, if you wish?), some of us do speak Polish (if I couldn't, why did I just vote in a local referendum today?) and some of us take the time to actually learn about Poland.

Either way, we know a hell of a lot more than some guys who are of 3rd/4th generation and who think they know the truth because they read some crap newspaper written by politically biased people.
Ironside 51 | 11,338
6 Oct 2012 #70
You have to be ONR

Office of Naval Research? No, I'm not!
p3undone 8 | 1,135
7 Oct 2012 #71
Grezegorz,I'm not supporting their claim to have superior knowledge to you and I also said that I can understand how you,having lived their all your life could be annoyed at someone coming to your country and claiming to know Poland better than you could be annoying.I didn't miss your point;your wrong;I ask questions of anyone who will answer them and then I will check it out.I've asked questions many times on the forum and people have not answered me.I still stand by my original statement.This doesn't mean anything.Whether they are better informed or are not I can see how it could be annoying for them as well.A simple observation.Where have you ever seen me claim that they have superior knowledge?I don't know if they do or not.If you read what I said on that thread;I mention how they perceive others more than once,because I am not actually qualified to say who knows more.So we can agree to disagree.Someone who doesn't live there will not ever understand Poland as well as someone who does.This is all I ever meant by that.


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