Poland's undying debt to Polonia

Yawn... You are totally missing my point.

Grzegorz,why do you have to be rude?I'm not missing your point at all;I made a comment and you've been going on and on about it.I'm not thinking in terms of specifically you or anyone else.

I'm paying 5K, I assume Harry is earning 35k per month or he is paying personal tax at 38%.

This is yearly right?.........

I'm not convinced that it was so low - I've never seen any reliable figures on the matter, but there was a degree of support from the lower classes of society who were promised much more than they had. If I was guessing - I'd estimate somewhere less than a million, but more than half a million.

About tax, VAT (23%) and then 19% income tax and then 900zl ZUS. Apparently I can keep what's left (but pay 23% VAT when I buy something). I wish I knew where all that money went.

OK, so let's go though it again. You said:


OK, you are right. I am. I am annoyed that several British expats are doing the same thing and even more so that you are supporting their claims to posses some superior knowledge just for being temporary located in Poland. Are you going support me, If I start pushing "you were not born/educated here, don't even speak Polish, so what can you know" line against them ? Y/N and why ?

Agreed, I have no way of knowing the exact figure.


No, monthly.


Well, look at this way, 19% is pretty low - even without a tax free element.

Except that some of us have been educated here (I could introduce you to several graduates, if you wish?), some of us do speak Polish (if I couldn't, why did I just vote in a local referendum today?) and some of us take the time to actually learn about Poland.

Either way, we know a hell of a lot more than some guys who are of 3rd/4th generation and who think they know the truth because they read some crap newspaper written by politically biased people.

Office of Naval Research? No, I'm not!

Grezegorz,I'm not supporting their claim to have superior knowledge to you and I also said that I can understand how you,having lived their all your life could be annoyed at someone coming to your country and claiming to know Poland better than you could be annoying.I didn't miss your point;your wrong;I ask questions of anyone who will answer them and then I will check it out.I've asked questions many times on the forum and people have not answered me.I still stand by my original statement.This doesn't mean anything.Whether they are better informed or are not I can see how it could be annoying for them as well.A simple observation.Where have you ever seen me claim that they have superior knowledge?I don't know if they do or not.If you read what I said on that thread;I mention how they perceive others more than once,because I am not actually qualified to say who knows more.So we can agree to disagree.Someone who doesn't live there will not ever understand Poland as well as someone who does.This is all I ever meant by that.

Some Polonia guys tend to act as complete azholes as we can see in this forum: they spread their hatred and discriminatory narrow-minded views on so many topics that mentioning them all would take me a few minutes.

However, there are also good Poles in US.

The latest debt to Polonia arised when some decent Pol Ams encouraged or even pressed on their US leaders to accept Poland into NATO 25 years ago. I just read a few articles about it on the 25th anniverary of Poland`s accession.

E.g,

Meanwhile, the knowledge about the help of Polish communities, especially the American and Canadian ones, concerning Poland's accession to NATO is not so widespread. Their backing can even be assessed as crucial. Although Poland was respected in Washington, the North American politicians were quite skeptical about NATO expansion.

The Polish diaspora in the USA, up to then quite divided, had united to achieve this goal. Its members were sending letters to members of the US Congress, collecting signatures for a petition and using the emerging Internet. The Polish American Congress (PAC) played a key role in this respect. One of the most active members of the Polish lobby in Washington, D.C., which was striving for Poland's integration with NATO, was the US National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzeziński and the courier of the Polish Government in London Jan Nowak-Jeziorański. They collaborated and remained in close contact with each other almost throughout the whole 1990s.

Hey, decent Am Poles, thank you very much for your efforts in the 1990s! We, native Poles, appreciate it immensely seeing what our mortal enemy is doing in Ukraine.

You are not you are a commie.
Also, why do you resurrect old 10-year-old threads?

Yes, I am. I will be one even if you zesrać się w portki. hahahahaha


That`s nothing. I can resurrect even older threads. Together with Alien, of course. :):):)

yes, you are the one and only shameless degenerate and renegade. That is correct.

Yes, I shamelessly point to your nazio fascinations which I consider scum and svoloch affiliations. Ha!