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What should Russia and Poland do to become if not friends, then at least not enemies?


Crow 143 | 7,507
4 Apr 2018  #241
See, I think of myself as of idiot who wasting his time. Many here are too well programed.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
4 Apr 2018  #242
makes me think of him as a troll....

Trolls troll for a bit then clear off, crow has been here since 2007, he has some staying power , you will warm to him in about a year or so.

Crow
You are just tired crow go and recharge your batteries, your work is not done here yet.
Crow 143 | 7,507
4 Apr 2018  #243
he has some staying power , you will warm to him in about a year or so.

In about that time or even less he would think of me as of some man who have power to read future. Many things that would happen would bring me in his mind. Events so accelerate.
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
4 Apr 2018  #244
he would think of me as of some man who have power to read future.

Yea thats a good description you are the forum Soothsayer / shaman / psychic who reminds us of our slavic roots and gods as in svetvoid you see crow you have taught me one or two things.
Velund 1 | 407
4 Apr 2018  #245
See, I think of myself as of idiot who wasting his time. Many here are too well programed.

May be, of course. While not as "rotten" as western europeans, Poles often tend to over-estimate their importance in the world, and lose something where would gain something. Losing possible friends first, then start to lose something material.

And these endless promises of the future slave-overseer's position in a brilliant new world, sounded in the ears of Polish politicians at every contact with the British. ;)
Ironside 47 | 9,572
4 Apr 2018  #246
Losing possible friends first,

Don't be absurd. I gather you talk about Russia.
Ironside 47 | 9,572
4 Apr 2018  #247
And these endless promises of the future slave-overseer's position in a brilliant new world,

It sound like some shytty story one educated Ruskie tell to his Ruskie buddy to justify all the crap Russia has done to Poles for no reason.
Crow 143 | 7,507
5 Apr 2018  #248
Losing possible friends first, then start to lose something material.

Poles won`t lose Serbians. Its impossible.

But, approach will change. We learning, I see this among our intellectual circles, how are we Serbians more free then our Polish and Russian brethren and all other Slavs altogether. It even surprising how deeply you all are enslaved. Only Czechs shows some of freedom but even they seek for guidance.

Its clear to me how Russians failed to influence you Poles (or Poles to influence Russians). Sure, aside reason that Poles were sedentary Sarmats much longer then Russians (Scythian Sarmats). Simple, you both were entrenched in defense of your way of Christianity, while due to historical circumstances absolutely failed to preserve most important thing- your own ancestral spirituality. So, I quite understand how Russians (their elite) who thought of itself of Third Rome, failed to ``explain`` things to Poles. Wrong. You both are so wrong. You both defend something, killing each others in the name of something what have only one desire- to assimilate you completely, to make you vanish, if you want. No, don`t get me wrong. Problem isn`t in Christianity. No. Problems are false priests on all sides who wants to profit on it. See, for that, to protect yourself from that, one must have deeper roots. That, what we Serbians kept alive and have it in itself, what you Poles and Russian lost. Its harder to manipulate you when you have roots..... And when you are hungry enough, when you recognize your reality, you shell get it from us. You just have to ask and copy paste it, on your own Christian way, just little bit to upgrade it to yourself.

That, or you shall stop to be Poles and Russian. Then, without you, we shell finally die, no matter all.
Miloslaw 6 | 1,758
5 Apr 2018  #249
@dolnoslask

I respect your opinion so will open myself more to Crow's posts.

@crow

You obviously know your Slav history.
Not so sure of your predictions of Slav future.....
But Dolno and a few others seem to hold you in good regard so that is good enough for me,for now...
Post away Crow!
Crow 143 | 7,507
5 Apr 2018  #250
Your opinion is irrelevant. Most important opinion about me on this forum is opinion of wife of owner of this web site. She must be satisfied.
kaprys 1 | 1,665
5 Apr 2018  #251
Talking about Slavs, have you guys heard Mazurek Dąbrowskiego and Hey, Slavs played before a game?
There's a video on YouTube: Poland played against Serbia and Montenegro.
Crow 143 | 7,507
5 Apr 2018  #252
Yes, anthem of Yugoslavia and Poland were/are almost identical. No wonder, we are all Sarmats, after all.

Mazurek Dąbrowskiego & Hej Slaveni
youtube.com/watch?v=cZ1SUCpekyM

What crossed my mind is fact that genetic science confirmed that what is now Polish population represent paternal population to Russian population. Simple speaking, Russians originate from Poles. Male gene was crucial in research here.

Must be that separation happened in deep past, when Sarmats of what is now Poland were hunters-gatherers or in best case, nomads. So, by scenario given by genetic research one number of males organized and separated for some reason, moved on some warrior hike, hunt to far land or just moved far due to some internal tribal dispute. All that moved on that trip were males or among them was only few females. We know that because genetics says that on Polish male genome was added some other local female genome (those males acquired themselves brides). That`s how Russians came to existence by genetics. Then, being familiar with nomad way of life they continued that way for very long and became branch or Sarmats known as Scythians (in Serbian > SKITATI > SKITI means `wandering`- having nomadic way of life). In the meanwhile those who left in Poland, evolved into sedentary Sarmatians much before Russians (Scythians).
Slavictor 9 | 201
7 Apr 2018  #253
Read the words of this stupid, irresponsible fool. Trump should immediately fire and ex-communicate her from Washington.

rt.com/usa/423422-us-russia-stalemate-haley


Crow 143 | 7,507
7 Apr 2018  #254
I starting to pray!
peterweg 36 | 2,315
7 Apr 2018  #255
RT,com??

Please **** off with linking to that Kremlin website.
Wulkan - | 3,255
7 Apr 2018  #256
RT,com

Still better than CNN
dolnoslask 5 | 2,462
7 Apr 2018  #257
that Kremlin website.

Yep I agree almost as bad as the guardian commie shite .

But if you listen to the way she talks its almost like listening to a WWII dictator, she obviously never had half her family wiped out due to war, interesting to listen to her reaction when asked about finding common ground.
Velund 1 | 407
7 Apr 2018  #259
almost like listening to a WWII dictator

Statesland, Statesland über alles
über alles in der World

;)

As promised - they making America über alles again!
Velund 1 | 407
7 Apr 2018  #260
she obviously never had half her family wiped out due to war

It seems that someone on the other side of the Atlantic Puddle thinks that the next war will look just like the past - with factories overloaded with orders, and bankers counting profits and planning post-war crediting strategies to get the maximum profit out of former enemy. Stupids...
Velund 1 | 407
8 Apr 2018  #261
I starting to pray!

I fear that you choosed right time to pray.

Just looked at BBC - front news is from Syrian town of Duma where by report of local "white helmets" sarine was used by syrian government forces. Obviously, Russia was blamed immediately by US DoS.

At the same time, as it was reported in the news, few weeks ago, russian military contacted Pentagon, and warned, that "chemical" training of rebels with US instructors in a al-Tanf area was not passed unnoticed. Attempts to forge a "reason" for strike to Damascus or other Syrian targets will be responded by strike not only to attacking aircrafts and missiles, but to carriers and bases as well.

Either anglos is totally stupid, either they deliberately seeking for war NOW.
Velund 1 | 407
8 Apr 2018  #262
PS: 150 dead just changed to 70. I think in a nearest few hours sarine will be changed in the news to chlorine. Or someone will ask where is dead bodies of "white helmets" after working in epicenter without military grade protection gear.
TheWizard - | 241
8 Apr 2018  #263
Russian standard of living has plummeted since emperor Putin took over. In Moscow say 15 years ago life was far better compared to backward now. The russian people seem to like being poor and subservient. For that reason alone there is nothing in common with Poles. There are many reasons obviously and not worth listing. Russian economy sux and they have also failed to transition from oil only economic base, totally left behind. I think it is drifting further apart from other slavs at a fast pace. No one wants Russia anywhere not even in sport. Worthless craphole.
RudyKot
8 Apr 2018  #264
What? Russia should give back all the art, gold and land it ownes to Poland. Plus few nukes and promise to never cross us again, Poland then can kiss good bye NATO and we can be a pinky friends.
Velund 1 | 407
8 Apr 2018  #265
In Moscow say 15 years ago life was far better compared to backward now.

I can detect someone that never been in Moscow in a 5 seconds sometimes.

But, if your family is Berezovsky - then maybe, maybe... Life, far better, in Moscow... Every detail is correct.
TheWizard - | 241
8 Apr 2018  #266
Why do russians pretend life is better not far worse now under the idiotic leader dictator? Embarrassment?
Slavictor 9 | 201
8 Apr 2018  #267
pretend life is better

Simply because they aren't pretending. Washington intentionally wants to pick a fight and they will stop at nothing to do this. If a shoelace breaks it is Russias' fault. Washington wants Russia back to the vassal state it was during Yeltsins' time like Poland, UK, Canada, France, Germany are now. Russia is interested in equal involvement at the bargaining table, not as a servant. This should be the goal of every country.

She is of Asian Indian origin.

Paid neocon wh0res can come in all stripes, but mainly one.


TheWizard - | 241
8 Apr 2018  #268
I don't understand why Washington would want a fight. You can't beat a large nuclear power. I get why Boris johnson wants to divert attention to make up for his 100s of scandalously insane lies about brexit and immigration, the devalued pound and many more ressons why he is screwing the uk. I dont think trump wants to fight Russia i thought that was more obamas thing. While i dont like Russia much at all ever since i saw Johnson say those things about that poisoning i can't get it out of my head that it's a lie. Everything else i heard him say was a lie so it makes sense for this to be BS as well.
Slavictor 9 | 201
8 Apr 2018  #269
I don't understand why Washington would want a fight.

Presidents are like hood ornaments on a car. No one directs their attention to who the driver is. The oval office is a revolving door. What never changes are the entrenched interests: extractive industries, banking, oil, pharmaceutical, agricultural, military weapons. These interests work with (i.e. bribe via lobbies) whichever party happens to be the flavour of the day and buy or extort* their way to influence through campaign contributions. Notice how all the big players fund both parties. The interests have no loyalty to the USA as a country. It's just a tool to be used and discarded. America is used as muscle internationally to expedite their plans (see Gen. Smedley Butler quote below. Nothing has changed. Once in power, they stay in power). As mentioned, "Washington" ( and I emphasize Washington because this represents the entrenched interests and their paid, professional servants in government ) is not the government elected to represent the will of the American people. The two party system in the USA has become a dialectical rouse.

Washington considers it's tool America as the "indispensable nation", above all others, and it must keep every other country under it's thumb. You run your country our way, or else. Washington can not tolerate being anything other than a uni-lateral power. It dictates. Washington has been un-successful in keeping Russia in a state of servitude. The neconservative faction of Washington has had long term plans to conduct a nuclear first strike against Russia in order to bring it back into line. Wizard, you are correct to say that nuclear war is unwinnable. Washington does not care. This is why we see the now constant process of demonization of Russia - by any means, turning it into a perceived villain in order to justify this attack. None of us will survive Washington's insanity. And this is why I returned to this forum after 3 years away.

notbeinggoverned.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Smedley1.jpg
extort* - want to read about how the entrenched interests operate in countries other than the USA? Read John Perkins' 'Confessions of an Economic Hitman'. Plenty of interviews on YouTube. He was one of the guys who bribed, threatened and extorted leaders in 3rd world countries on behalf of these international entrenched interests that control Washington.
TheWizard - | 241
8 Apr 2018  #270
Well all that i knew already for most part. We know usa wants to control the world. Problem is if you are Polish you can know all that and still prefer it over Russia because of the past but also because of Putin. Let's remove the USA and jews from the formula for a minute, what does russia and poland have in common? Only one thing, bad blood. So the usa can do what it wants but Russia is still going to be viewed as a worse alternative. Something large and fundamental has to change first but i see nothing like that happening, quite the opposite. Russia doesn't give a crap about Poland and i don't think usa does either but one is worse than the other if you are Polish. Btw nice write up.


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