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Heritage of partitions still present in Poland


Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,013
19 May 2019  #91
Prussian - best developed...

What's not to like! :)

Besides the Germanization I would hate as a Pole too..
delphiandomine 85 | 17,823
19 May 2019  #92
That still strikes me as being a very strange move. The Poles in their area weren't particularly restless or troublesome, and diminishing the role of the Church would have been more than enough, especially if they kept investing in areas with Poles.
Ironside 47 | 9,572
19 May 2019  #93
Besides the Germanization

Polish couldn't advance in German army or administration. There were no Polish officials in local adm, I believe there has no been Polish officers with a rank higher that major.
OP pawian 153 | 8,369
19 May 2019  #94
That still strikes me as being a very strange move

That was a grave mistake of Germans to act like that. All historians agree that it provoked Poles to think of independence from Germans who were perceived as occupiers. Polish national spirit was born in the Prussian zone - and it applied not only to Polish elites but also simple masses like peasants, too. Famous Drzymała case.

de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micha%C5%82_Drzyma%C5%82a

Of course, the German mistake was a blessing for Poles. :):)

Hey , another example of heritage!. Drzymałowo is the name of the village where Drzymała resisted Prussian authorities during partitions.

I can see it is a nice place and obviously they have a replica of his famous circus wagon.

See the pics
agulinaroza.flog.pl/wpis/12464655/drzymalowo--wies-w-polsce-polozona8230
delphiandomine 85 | 17,823
19 May 2019  #95
All historians agree that it provoked Poles to think of independence from Germans who were perceived as occupiers.

Yes, it just didn't make any sense. They failed to understand where the strength of Austria-Hungary came from, and it's quite possible with modernity that the Polish population would have started to lose their identity anyway as they began to travel. Trying to suppress it was never going to work, and they should have looked at the example from Serbia to see that it was never going to work.
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,013
20 May 2019  #96
They failed to understand where the strength of Austria-Hungary came from,

Germany has never seen itself as a multi-kulti-people, that is slowly changing...but still meets alot of resistance...

But that many different people in its borders also destroyed Austria-Hungary in the end, so it was not only a strength either.
mafketis 17 | 6,875
20 May 2019  #97
Germany has never seen itself as a multi-kulti-people

defein: "a multi-kulti-people"
Bratwurst Boy 5 | 10,013
20 May 2019  #98
That for example:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_and_religious_composition_of_Austria-Hungary

Germany as a nationstate was very young and hence still insecure what it meant to be a German...for most of our history we had been a mishmash of many tribes, states, principalities and such....at one point over 500.

So the gov took the question who belongs to that new Germany very seriously...that all spoke the same language was a foundation of that. The concept of a Hochdeutsch that was spoken everywhere and used in all schools and official institutions was still not a implicitness. Instead regional dialect were often much stronger.

Only in that light one can understand the forceful implementation of German as main language already in the schools even where Polish was the main language. Germany did it with it's bavarian and frisian kids too...
OP pawian 153 | 8,369
30 May 2019  #99
Those German politicians who introduced it should be celebrated as saints in Poland today. :):):)

The last EP elections somehow follow the partition pattern (although PiS`social benefits managed to win them new voters in Western Poland)

General map based on province division.



Spike31 2 | 904
3 Jun 2019  #100
It doesn't take into account smaller sub regions. Mostly a bigger cities voted for KE (is it still a correct name since PSL left?) while smaller town and countryside in Western Poland voted for PiS.
OP pawian 153 | 8,369
3 Jun 2019  #101
Yes, I know it doesn`t. I suggested it in three places in my one post. You must be tired after a hard day. ):)


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