POLAND: EASTERN or CENTRAL European country?

I'm sorry for the few idots we have around here. They think we're all going to take the things they say to heart and cry about it. They don't seem to realize that by belittling others over the internet they are actually making themselves look stupid, because they have nothing better to do than google a forum and talk $hit about other people. It's sad really....

lol - google it... look at hair, hight, skin pigmentation... work your way from south to start with, the differences ar more noticable

I meant the average Pole. Most Poles look like any German or Englishman.

I'm sure a Pole can pick out another Pole in a heartbeat, but that's because they know what to look for. Just like a German can find another German rather easily. My mother can guess which actors in an American movie are Polish by looking at their eyes or jaw. 99% of the time she is right too.

I do see what you're trying to get across though.

to the untrained eye quite probably


there you go - many nationalities stand out like sore thumbs to people who are used to seeing them


im just stating the obvious for people who have spent amounts of time in different countries

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im in the states atm, a country know as a melting pot of many different nationalities - its quite fun meeting people, americans, and trying to guess what their nationality origins are... most ive asked have been more than happy to tell me

Yes, i know there are differences between Meditteranean people and Icelanders for example. Hair and skin color, height, etc.
Do you want me to study the Darwin theory ;) LoL

Yes, but not everyone studies different people like you. So I would have to say "The average person cannot distinguish the difference between the average Pole and the average German or average Frenchman."

That make it better?

:]

In the US, people can say that I am from Europe, buy they have trouble to say from which country...It's usually said from Germany or Russia...

but can you see differences between italian and spanish...?

studying darwinism isnt needed - just look at those around you and notice similarities

in your profile photo you look as tho you have blonde hair (black n white photo so hard to tell) - this isnt a hair colour i would automatically ascociate with france


lol - never thougt of it like that but im definatley a people watcher


yeah - true - the averae person doesnt spend considerable time abroad - some never even move out of their city other than a couple of weeks holiday a year

You can invent new countries that don't really exist, then tell them that's where you're from.

Some Poles do stand out as Poles before they even say anything, but mistakes can easily be made.

Everyone is different, i think it would be hard to tell...some are easy to differentiate, and some others are more difficult.


Hehe ;) True i'm blond. So what country (countries) would you associate blond hair ? (i may know what you are going to answer...)
There are some blond people in France, but not many, i must say.
By the way, 1 French out of 3 have origins from another country...

:)

lol - and everyone is equal but some of us are more equal than others ;-)

the more northern european countries are the ones i associate with blond hair and hair gets darker as you go south - what your origins are i wouldnt like to guess from a small black n white photo...

my hair is dark - its not black but its a lot darker than the average pole, my complexion is also quite dark, in poland i have been told i look like a gypsy

its not just physical features that set nationalities apart - the way they dress and conduct themselves also set them apart. you live in paris many of whose occupants are known for their style and presentation - have you not been in the city centre when its flooded with tourists mid summer and looked at people immediatly knowing they are not from france...?

Haha ;)


LoL, some friends say i am a Viking ;) But they are quite ignorant...i'm blond with green/blue/grey eyes (i know it's "special"), etc, those few criteria make them think i'm a Viking (the Vikings were not a people, they were sailors, conquerors, warriors, merchants, etc. LoL)


So, the culture shows the difference, right ? ;) Cause Poles born abroad are quite similar to the "natives" ;)


Their language...English, Spanish, German, Polish, Italian, etc. LoL

i was thinking more along the ways they dress

Tourists are all the same...wearing sunglasses, hats, and taking pics...... :P

Seems like Ukraine is only Eastern European country... feel alone :-)

do not despair slo - Ukraine is a lovely country nevertheless:)

In reviewing the articles under Polski Radio's Europe East, they seem to have only story's from the Ukraine, not including Poland in the East.

Poland is a central European country I'd say. Belarus is an Eastern European country I think. I'd say Prague is at the heart of Europe geographically and it's not so far from where I am here in Silesia

poland is eastern european in terms of culture, ideology and history. there is an obvious culture , economic and historical divide between east and west. Not between east, west and central.

germany is a central european country but when we speak of germany we speak of it as a western european country and when we talk of poland we talk of eastenr europe.

that is how europea see poland fullstop. GET OVER IT

You obviously have no idea about the culture, ideology or the history of Eastern Europe.

Poland shares slavic language, culture and was ruled by eastern european entities historicaly.
I have been to warsaw and krakow as I explained before and it is closer culturally and linguistically to crotia, ukraine etc. than to france or britain

correct me if I am wrong.

"entities"?
If by that you mean individuals the Poland was also ruled by western entities, oh, and a northern one too.
If, however, by the word "entities" you mean that Poland was occupied by other countries then a part of it it was also ruled at one time by a western and a central European entity. And come to think about it, India having been ruled by the Brits is a Western European country, right?


Poland is as close to Croatia as it is to Greece or Italy. Actually, barring the language, I find more commonalities between Poles and Italians than with any of the former Yugoslavian countries.


I just did.

Again, noimmigration has a good point, to a point. It depends what point in history he is referring to though. Ideologically, well, more closely allied with Central Europe now but 3.5 years in the EU doesn't push away about 40 years of communism and a long legacy/aftermath. Culturally, well, name me what cultures u had in mind noimmigration and we'll test them out

hang on a minute do you poles consider yourselfs western european culturally, historically and linguistically such as france, britain, germany, denmark.

LMAO why are you ashamed to be eastern european

you are nothing like the british, german or french. we western europeans all share similer languages unlike the poles. we all share similer histories and culture.

you have nothing in common with us you have more in common with eastenr eurpeans.

you are only central europeans geogrphically but their is a divide between east and west. not a divide between east, west and central.

you are eastern european, all western europe knows this, all our media knows this and all of our textbooks in schools know this ADMIT IT

as seanus says you have been locked away in a communist cupboard for decades and before that you didnt have much influence in terms of culture in the west like germany or britian etc did.

I would say russia and its satellite countries had a much bigger cultural impact on poland than germany, britain or france ever did.

here the united nations defines eastern europe in pink. eastern europe is not a geographical term but a term used to describe countries influenced by the cold war both economically, militantly and culturaly

as I said before germany is central europe geographically, but it is western europe as defined by the united nationas not to mentin linguistically and culturally.

the united nations, nato etc defines poland as eastern europe no matter how much yu deny it.

Ideaologically Poland was occupied by a communist country and the 40 years of the so called "communism in Pland" was 40 years of struggle against it.


Yes.


Partly


Lingiustics has nothhing to do with it.


Thankfully, not.


Yea, I like especially the London falvor of flamenco, and the French version of stiff upper lip :)


You're not trying to convince me you're familiar with textbooks, are you? Let alone ALL of them :)


Again, you know squat about Poland's history. Too much to explain. Find some books on the subject. And please, for your own sake, avoid the ones translated from German in early 20th century.

you are pathetic, the united nations and nato class poland as EASTERN EUROPE wether you like it or not.
western europeans class you as eastern european wether you like it or not.
the western media and the whole world class you as eastern europea wether you like it or not.

No matter how much you argue or whine you are NOT western european. I dont know why you are so unwillinging to accept this.

did you not look at the map above of what countries are considered eastern european, why are you lying to yourself.

I never said Poland is a Western European country so I have no clue why would you be arguing about that. It is a central European country. I don't know why you are unwilling to accept this.

germany is central european but classed by the un and nato as western europe, eastern europea is NOT a geographical term it is a cultural term defined as a satelite state of russia during the cold war.

wikipedia -

Eastern Europe is a concept of a geopolitical region recently influenced by the Cold War. Its borders are defined more by culture than by clear and precise geography. Throughout history and to a lesser extent today Eastern Europe has been distinguishable from Western Europe and other regions due to cultural, religious, economic, and historical reasons. Although the term Eastern Europe was largely defined of the Cold War, it still remains much in use.[1] The term is commonly used in the media and in everyday use both in "eastern" and other regions of Europe.

I am aware poland i geographically central eurpe, but you have to realize that politically, culturally, historically and linguistically it is eastern european

To z-darius, OK, but then what was the ideology of the Polish people between 1946-1989? What ideology did the majority of Poles want to pursue post WWII? Many Poles grew to like communism

why ask that seanus, hell just try to convince you every polish man woman and child had ak47s and were part of an underground resistance movement that everday, shot stalins soldiers in time before breakfast